Schools in tennessee k-8 not allowed to discuss gays.

[Alowwvia]

>Be a cosmic deity
>Be capable of creating entire universes on a whim, because I am omnipotent
>Know literally everything
>Be benevolent by own admission, love all beings I create as if they are my children
>Some are born with strong urges to reproduce with others of their gender,
>They do, nobody is harmed except soccer moms who think this will KURRUPT THE CHILDRUNN before they watch more American Idol
>Gay people happy
>Reasonable straight people alright
>TO THE HELL PITS WITH YOU


Sounds legit.

[Geniasis]

Gay IS okay. No further arguments, homosexuality is as normal as breathing. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, RELIGIOUS, MORAL OR OTHERWISE THAT PROVES THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG.

Incorrect. There is religious evidence. And no one has ever proven to me its 'ok' just because its 'natural'.

Too bad that's not a US legal document.

Rape can occur in nature. Isnt that 'natural'? Shouldnt it be 'ok'?

Homosexuality is equivalent to rape? I'm not sure which group that's more offensive to.

C. Fuck that shit, people can repent and change.

Odd that you'd have to tell that to a Christian of all people. That's sort of like, the core concept.

Prove that you stay in it. Noone has proved that its 'ok' to me. And I dont give a damn about consent: If it werent for my religion, Id say consent should be ignored.

You want me... to prove.. that gay people don't become a different species? I'm sorry, I must have misread that question. Would you mind clarifying, because I know that can't actually be your question.

Lilith

Where does all this Lilith stuff come from, anyway? It clearly isn't in the Protestant canon, at least not in Genesis. I've always been really interested in which scriptures this comes from.

Also, the thing about woman serving man... at least in Christian canon, that's only mentioned after the Fall. Most egalitarian pastors have claimed that this means that sexism and differential treatment between sexes is a symptom of sin, and something to avoid if we wish to strive for holiness.

[The Black Forrest]

Gay IS okay. No further arguments, homosexuality is as normal as breathing. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, RELIGIOUS, MORAL OR OTHERWISE THAT PROVES THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG.

Incorrect. There is religious evidence. And no one has ever proven to me its 'ok' just because its 'natural'.

That's an opinion. It's not evidence.

[Kashubia-Pomerania]

Step in the right direction for the same reason "don't ask, don't tell" was a good idea.

It allows gays to live in a safe, normal, non-hostile environment as opposed to constantly bringing it up and rubbing it in their faces.

[Ceannairceach]

Step in the right direction for the same reason "don't ask, don't tell" was a good idea.

It allows gays to live in a safe, normal, non-hostile environment as opposed to constantly bringing it up and rubbing it in their faces.

We should be moving towards a society where being openly gay is a socially accepted thing, not to one where gays should have to hide who they are to be safe.

[The Black Forrest]

Step in the right direction for the same reason "don't ask, don't tell" was a good idea.

It allows gays to live in a safe, normal, non-hostile environment as opposed to constantly bringing it up and rubbing it in their faces.

Ah. So put them back into the closet.

Let them be out and open. I would rather have that then dating/marrying our daughters and sisters.......

[Alowwvia]

Step in the right direction for the same reason "don't ask, don't tell" was a good idea.

It allows gays to live in a safe, normal, non-hostile environment as opposed to constantly bringing it up and rubbing it in their faces.

We should be moving towards a society where being openly gay is a socially accepted thing, not to one where gays should have to hide who they are to be safe.

I disagree.

We should all be moving towards a society where everybody is sexless robots. Then we don't have to worry about this sort of thing.

[Geniasis]

Step in the right direction for the same reason "don't ask, don't tell" was a good idea.

It allows gays to live in a safe, normal, non-hostile environment as opposed to constantly bringing it up and rubbing it in their faces.

And discharges them from the military school if anyone finds out?

[Demen]

Gay IS okay. No further arguments, homosexuality is as normal as breathing. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, RELIGIOUS, MORAL OR OTHERWISE THAT PROVES THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG.

Incorrect. There is religious evidence. And no one has ever proven to me its 'ok' just because its 'natural'.

Religious evidence is like Lady Gaga's penis. It's small and it shouldn't be there.

[Farnhamia]

Step in the right direction for the same reason "don't ask, don't tell" was a good idea.

It allows gays to live in a safe, normal, non-hostile environment as opposed to constantly bringing it up and rubbing it in their faces.

And discharges them from the military school if anyone finds out?

Nah, they just get harassed on a daily basis. I do always enjoy how people who would prefer that gays not be so flamboyant or noticeable or visible are just looking out for our best interests, to protect us from be bullied and harassed. Thanks, Kashubia, but you know what would be even nicer than your milque-toast support? You telling your friends, when they make a rude remark or tell a tasteless joke, that you disapprove and that you'd appreciate it if they knocked that kind of thing off.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Incorrect. There is religious evidence. And no one has ever proven to me its 'ok' just because its 'natural'.

Religious evidence is like Lady Gaga's penis. It's small and it shouldn't be there.

[Marcheria]

Incorrect. There is religious evidence. And no one has ever proven to me its 'ok' just because its 'natural'.

Religious evidence is like Lady Gaga's penis. It's small and it shouldn't be there.

Thank you. Just another effort to force common sense into that guy's thick skull.

[Draconian Races]

Religious evidence is like Lady Gaga's penis. It's small and it shouldn't be there.

Thank you. Just another effort to force common sense into that guy's thick skull.

Common sense is to keep people pure, straight, and clean. No pre/extra marital sex, no homosexuals, nothing but straight sex between husband and wife.

[Ceannairceach]

Thank you. Just another effort to force common sense into that guy's thick skull.

Common sense is to keep people pure, straight, and clean. No pre/extra marital sex, no homosexuals, nothing but straight sex between husband and wife.

Which isn't common sense, but your morality, which isn't universally accepted.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Common sense is to keep people pure, straight, and clean. No pre/extra marital sex, no homosexuals, nothing but straight sex between husband and wife.

Which isn't common sense, but your morality, which isn't universally accepted.

Correct. Christians are only about a quarter to a third of the population, and most Christians aren't as extreme as you. I think you'd get along fine with Andrew Schlafly.

[Draconian Races]

Common sense is to keep people pure, straight, and clean. No pre/extra marital sex, no homosexuals, nothing but straight sex between husband and wife.

Which isn't common sense, but your morality, which isn't universally accepted.

No, my morality says dont even listen to my religion: Just slay the homosexuals in their homes. Destroy all trace of them.

My religion is what makes me as moderate as I am.

[Draconian Races]

most Christians aren't as extreme as you. I think you'd get along fine with Andrew Schlafly.

True, at least a third are probably Christians in-name-only. Religion should be life, the center of it, the reason for it... not "A nice guideline on how to live".

and who is Andrew Schlafly?

[Buffett and Colbert]

Which isn't common sense, but your morality, which isn't universally accepted.

No, my morality says dont even listen to my religion: Just slay the homosexuals in their homes. Destroy all trace of them.

My religion is what makes me as moderate as I am.

I've gotten the sense that your morality is not equal to your religion. I'm curious how you separate the two, and the reason for it. Is there some other reason you believe the Bible and Christianity worth adhering to, even if they run contrary to some of your morals?

[Ceannairceach]

Which isn't common sense, but your morality, which isn't universally accepted.

No, my morality says dont even listen to my religion: Just slay the homosexuals in their homes. Destroy all trace of them.

My religion is what makes me as moderate as I am.

That thought would get you institutionalized, mind. And being bisexual, even if you truly hold those views, I don't like being informed that you wish to slaughter me, capiche?

[Draconian Races]

No, my morality says dont even listen to my religion: Just slay the homosexuals in their homes. Destroy all trace of them.

My religion is what makes me as moderate as I am.

I've gotten the sense that your morality is not equal to your religion. I'm curious how you separate the two, and the reason for it. Is there some other reason you believe the Bible and Christianity worth adhering to, even if they run contrary to some of your morals?

Because I believe they are the better alternative to wanton slaughter. That they humanize and bring out the best in people... or destroy the worst. I find the idea of firm justice but loving grace combined, to be a good way to live consistently and happily.

[Liriena]

Which isn't common sense, but your morality, which isn't universally accepted.

No, my morality says dont even listen to my religion: Just slay the homosexuals in their homes. Destroy all trace of them.

My religion is what makes me as moderate as I am.

Then, what does common sense dictate to you, regardless of your moral values?
Sure, one could argue through Christian values that homosexuality is wrong and should be persecuted and censored, but my common sense and my Catholic upbringing tell me otherwise, that I have no right to judge other people's way of life and that my religious values are not universal nor absolute, and that religion and the Law have no no authority over what people can or can't do in private, so long as it doesn't directly harm those around them.
My moral values tell me that discriminating others for any reason is wrong, and that my principles are not universally valid, and I have the duty to respect other people's moral values.
My religion has told me so far that love, respect and mercy are the most basic principles to which we must abide, and that every form of hate or discrimination, regardless of it's motives, is a sin.

[Unhealthy2]

No, my morality says dont even listen to my religion: Just slay the homosexuals in their homes. Destroy all trace of them.

My religion is what makes me as moderate as I am.

So where's this maladaptive "morality"* coming from?

*By the way, "morality" is not even close to the word any sane person would use to describe your attitudes.

[Wikkiwallana]

C. Fuck that shit, people can repent and change.

Odd that you'd have to tell that to a Christian of all people. That's sort of like, the core concept.

I know, seriously. Too much of the time the biggest challenges to my faith are other Christians, rather than those out to explicitly prove me wrong. It's really, really saddening.

[Draconian Races]

No, my morality says dont even listen to my religion: Just slay the homosexuals in their homes. Destroy all trace of them.

My religion is what makes me as moderate as I am.

Then, what does common sense dictate to you, regardless of your moral values?
Sure, one could argue through Christian values that homosexuality is wrong and should be persecuted and censored, but my common sense and my Catholic upbringing tell me otherwise, that I have no right to judge other people's way of life and that my religious values are not universal nor absolute, and that religion and the Law have no no authority over what people can or can't do in private, so long as it doesn't directly harm those around them.
My moral values tell me that discriminating others for any reason is wrong, and that my principles are not universally valid, and I have the duty to respect other people's moral values.
My religion has told me so far that love, respect and mercy are the most basic principles to which we must abide, and that every form of hate or discrimination, regardless of it's motives, is a sin.

See though, I am not saying, because of my religion, to start a war and get rid of them elsewhere. But I don't believe we should live alongside those who commit evil, without opposing it. We should be the light in the darkness, say no to laws that would allow or enforce evil.
But I view my religious values as absolute.

What Im 'judging' isnt someone's attraction to the same sex, but their actions.

[Wikkiwallana]

Step in the right direction for the same reason "don't ask, don't tell" was a good idea.

It allows gays to live in a safe, normal, non-hostile environment as opposed to constantly bringing it up and rubbing it in their faces.

The bill only applies to teachers and other staff, it doe nothing to protect people from bullying by their peers. Heck, under a strict enough interpretation of the unrevised version, it would have been illegal for teachers to explain why it was wrong to harass them.