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Parthenon wrote:

Redwulf wrote:

Parthenon wrote:Drug death statistics are garbage, people do that to themselves.

Homicide rate is also pretty much negated when you realize that a majority of those are just shitbags killing shitbags. If the rate went up another 10 people or so it would be even better.

So . . . you're saying Amsterdam has fewer shitbags per million people than America?

Not at all, merely that their shitbags aren't as brave as ours.

Committing murder is an act of bravery?


You're funny. I think we'll keep you. And I'll love you and squeeze you and name you George . . .

Parthenon wrote:Homicide rate is also pretty much negated when you realize that a majority of those are just shitbags killing shitbags. If the rate went up another 10 people or so it would be even better.

I propose we start with respectable middle and upper class white Americans. Would you volunteer to be the first to kick things off?

Redwulf wrote:

Parthenon wrote:

Redwulf wrote:So . . . you're saying Amsterdam has fewer shitbags per million people than America?

Not at all, merely that their shitbags aren't as brave as ours.

Committing murder is an act of bravery?


You're funny. I think we'll keep you. And I'll love you and squeeze you and name you George . . .

How many cowards have the balls to end a life?

Non Aligned States wrote:

Ifreann wrote:I'd very much like some kind of Dutch Tourist Board to sue O'Reilly for slander of libel or some such. If he's going to make factual claims about Amsterdam then I don't think I'm alone in thinking it'd be fun to make him prove it or apologise for his ignorance.

He'll make the defense that "he's an entertainer"

Then shouldn't he have to put a disclaimer at the beginning of his show about how this is for entertainment purposes only and he is not to be taken seriously as a source of information?

Dakini wrote:Then shouldn't he have to put a disclaimer at the beginning of his show about how this is for entertainment purposes only and he is not to be taken seriously as a source of information?

Not since the Florida appeals courts ruled that Fox news could knowingly put blatant lies on TV and not be prosecuted for it.

I wonder if the precedent can be used if a different news channel began broadcasting the names of certain Fox news anchors and judges as child rapists...

Of course, if anyone dies due to vigilantism, the O'Reilly defense of "I had nothing to do with it, I'm just an entertainer" can always be used. Even if O'Reilly was the one killed. It would be delicious irony.

Pedoka wrote:

Redwulf wrote:
Committing murder is an act of bravery?


You're funny. I think we'll keep you. And I'll love you and squeeze you and name you George . . .

How many cowards have the balls to end a life?

How many cowards shoot a bunch of people and then off themselves?

How many desperate, stupid or crazy people have no sense of self-preservation?

How many jilted lovers flip out and kill their partner? How many parents kill their own children? How many drugged-out losers dump a baby in the dumpster?

You're going to wax poetic about how courageous these people are? Really?

Some people just make my head asplode in every thread they post in...

Gelgisith wrote:Waitwaitwait, are you telling me Kanaleneiland is no longer the worst neighbourhood of the Netherlands?

Correct. Kanaleneiland is nr 16:
http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/art ... n_het_land

It is however true that all the bad neighbourhoods from this list have a lot of immigrants living there.
And still every single one of them is nowhere near as bad as the American ghettos.

Wait, how many tourists watch Bill O'Reilly, again?

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Wait, how many tourists watch Bill O'Reilly, again?

It depends, are they tourists coming to the US, specifically Mississippi?...cause then itll be whatever number of them visit a fast food restaurant,

Buffett and Colbert wrote:There was already a thread about this. And this was old anyway.

And havn't we learned by now that Fox News if full of shit?

Apparently, it needs to be said. It should be assumed.

Pedoka wrote:How many cowards have the balls to end a life?

....

Like those brave, brave pilots that flew the planes into the World Trade Center. They had such big balls they took thousands of lives. What bravery.

Sdaeriji wrote:

Pedoka wrote:How many cowards have the balls to end a life?

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Like those brave, brave pilots that flew the planes into the World Trade Center. They had such big balls they took thousands of lives. What bravery.

Dieing for a cause takes balls whether you agree with the cause or not.

Parthenon wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:

Pedoka wrote:How many cowards have the balls to end a life?

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Like those brave, brave pilots that flew the planes into the World Trade Center. They had such big balls they took thousands of lives. What bravery.

Dieing for a cause takes balls whether you agree with the cause or not.

Who is talking about dying for a cause? We're talking about killing for a cause.

How about Timothy McVeigh? Must've taken a lot of courage to blow up a day care.

Sdaeriji wrote:

Parthenon wrote:

Sdaeriji wrote:....

Like those brave, brave pilots that flew the planes into the World Trade Center. They had such big balls they took thousands of lives. What bravery.

Dieing for a cause takes balls whether you agree with the cause or not.

Who is talking about dying for a cause? We're talking about killing for a cause.

How about Timothy McVeigh? Must've taken a lot of courage to blow up a day care.

If you actually knew anything about McVeigh you would know that he has always maintained that he didn't know about the daycare.

Parthenon wrote:If you actually knew anything about McVeigh you would know that he has always maintained that he didn't know about the daycare.

So, your argument is that he was brave for blowing up a daycare because he was ignorant of it's existence?

You seem intent on defending this completely stupid point to the death, so let's see how utterly idiotic you're willing to be:

How about Ted Kennedy? Brave man killing Mary Jo Kopechne, right?

Intentionally taking another human's life is in a completely different ballpark than accidentally doing it while under the influence of a substance. Ted Kennedy? No. Timothy McVeigh, Yes.

Ifreann wrote:

greed and death wrote:hmm. Well we need to resolve this the Irish way.
O'Reilly and a person chosen at random from Amsterdam need to duke it out, after drinking a bottle of whiskey.

Only one bottle? Well, I suppose O'Reilly is getting on in years.....

didn't want to give him too much of an advantage over the Dutch guy.

Parthenon wrote:Intentionally taking another human's life is in a completely different ballpark than accidentally doing it while under the influence of a substance. Ted Kennedy? No. Timothy McVeigh, Yes.

Forget Kennedy. Ted Bundy is a better example. Let's see you praise him.

Non Aligned States wrote:

Parthenon wrote:Intentionally taking another human's life is in a completely different ballpark than accidentally doing it while under the influence of a substance. Ted Kennedy? No. Timothy McVeigh, Yes.

Forget Kennedy. Ted Bundy is a better example. Let's see you praise him.

For fucks sake. I am not "praising" anyone, merely stating that it takes balls to intentionally end another life.

Parthenon wrote:For fucks sake. I am not "praising" anyone, merely stating that it takes balls to intentionally end another life.

Oh no? You praised the high homicide rate of the United States, and wanted it to be higher. So why aren't you praising the likes of Ted Bundy then hmm?

Non Aligned States wrote:

Parthenon wrote:For fucks sake. I am not "praising" anyone, merely stating that it takes balls to intentionally end another life.

Oh no? You praised the high homicide rate of the United States, and wanted it to be higher. So why aren't you praising the likes of Ted Bundy then hmm?

Ted Bundy killed sororstitues. Nothing worthy of the slightest bit of remorse, or praise, in killing a sororstitute.

if they're changing their tune in that last video to 'its not really the drugs that's the problem, but the organised crime the permissive culture allows'.... then i'd like to see some stats about organised crime in the US vs the Netherlands (or Amsterdam specifically). i'm pretty sure the US has its fair share of crime and organised crime as well.

Dakini wrote:

Buffett and Colbert wrote:There was already a thread about this. And this was old anyway.

I looked for one, but didn't see it. :S

it was miiiiiiiiine! mwuhahahaha! viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9672

Parthenon wrote:Ted Bundy killed sororstitues. Nothing worthy of the slightest bit of remorse, or praise, in killing a sororstitute.

Why not? They are Americans, and thus "Shit-bags" by your wide ranging and unspecific definitions of what they are. People to kill and be praised for as you said. Just like, you know, you.

It seems quoting has failed you as well. I defined "shitbags" in a later post. Read the thread, then get back to me. Thanks!