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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:53 pm

a club for people who can't vote and therefore may have opinions not grounded in fact. You may say things that don't make sense here and no voters will fix your understanding of world events.

Issue #1: A lot of people believe that terrorists are all Muslims. Is this a stereotype or true?

as soon as we run out of steam on this issue, we can make new ones.

P.S. sorry if this seems a little sarcastic, its just the F7er in me.
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Postby Olthar » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:56 pm

That's quite obviously not true. Many modern terrorists are Muslim, but there have been many, many more people throughout history who have been terrorists, as well.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:57 pm

Olthar wrote:That's quite obviously not true. Many moder terrorists are Muslim, but there have been many, many more people throughout history who have been terrorists, as well.

you cannot vote, correct?
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Postby Seperates » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:59 pm

All opinions should be grounded in fact. Otherwise they should not be made, unless in jest. While many terrorists are muslim nowadays... I'm still more nervous of the man toting a Bible and attempting to convert me on my interstate flight.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:00 pm

Seperates wrote:All opinions should be grounded in fact. Otherwise they should not be made, unless in jest.

then how do you explain the Tea Party?
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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:01 pm

Olthar wrote:That's quite obviously not true. Many moder terrorists are Muslim, but there have been many, many more people throughout history who have been terrorists, as well.


Aha, the mods ARE terrorists after all! I KNEW it!
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Postby Olthar » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:01 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Olthar wrote:That's quite obviously not true. Many moder terrorists are Muslim, but there have been many, many more people throughout history who have been terrorists, as well.

you cannot vote, correct?

No, I can vote.
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Postby Seperates » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:01 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Seperates wrote:All opinions should be grounded in fact. Otherwise they should not be made, unless in jest.

then how do you explain the Tea Party?

Note "should"
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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:02 pm

Olthar wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:you cannot vote, correct?

No, I can vote.

meh. It doesn't matter. I just want some discussion where I won't be hampered by reality.
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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:02 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Seperates wrote:All opinions should be grounded in fact. Otherwise they should not be made, unless in jest.

then how do you explain the Tea Party?


A large group of pissed-off anti-Statist americans without enough leadership. Though I suppose that's a central tenet of anarchism.
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Des-Bal wrote:Modern politics is a series of assholes and liars trying to be more angry than each other until someone lets a racist epithet slip and they all scatter like roaches.

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Postby Olthar » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:02 pm

Neo Arcad wrote:
Olthar wrote:That's quite obviously not true. Many moder terrorists are Muslim, but there have been many, many more people throughout history who have been terrorists, as well.


Aha, the mods ARE terrorists after all! I KNEW it!

:lol: I love when spelling errors make the sentence better.
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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:03 pm

Olthar wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:
Aha, the mods ARE terrorists after all! I KNEW it!

:lol: I love when spelling errors make the sentence better.


Yesh.
Ostroeuropa wrote:Two shirtless men on a pushback with handlebar moustaches and a kettle conquered India, at 17:04 in the afternoon on a Tuesday. They rolled the bike up the hill and demanded that the natives set about acquiring bureaucratic records.

Des-Bal wrote:Modern politics is a series of assholes and liars trying to be more angry than each other until someone lets a racist epithet slip and they all scatter like roaches.

NSLV wrote:Introducing the new political text from acclaimed author/yak, NEO ARCAD, an exploration of nuclear power in the Middle East and Asia, "Nuclear Penis: He Won't Call You Again".

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Postby Seperates » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:03 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Olthar wrote:No, I can vote.

meh. It doesn't matter. I just want some discussion where I won't be hampered by reality.

Then I'll give you some advice...

Go to F7.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:04 pm

Seperates wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:meh. It doesn't matter. I just want some discussion where I won't be hampered by reality.

Then I'll give you some advice...

Go to F7.

I got bored with it. I suppose I should just go to some conservative forum and piss them off.
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Postby Ghanara » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:04 pm

I think it's a complete stereotype that all Muslims are terrorists. That's like saying all Christians are terrorists, just because some Christian terrorists bombed some abortion clinics.
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Postby Olthar » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:05 pm

Ghanara wrote:I think it's a complete stereotype that all Muslims are terrorists. That's like saying all Christians are terrorists, just because some Christian terrorists bombed some abortion clinics.

The OP asked if all terrorists are Muslim, not if all Muslims are terrorists.
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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:06 pm

Ghanara wrote:I think it's a complete stereotype that all Muslims are terrorists. That's like saying all Christians are terrorists, just because some Christian terrorists bombed some abortion clinics.


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Sauce?
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Des-Bal wrote:Modern politics is a series of assholes and liars trying to be more angry than each other until someone lets a racist epithet slip and they all scatter like roaches.

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Postby Pingleeia » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:09 pm

What is "the tea party?"

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Postby Voltronica » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:10 pm

Issue #1: A lot of people believe that terrorists are all Muslims. Is this a stereotype or true?

The First statement is highly true because a lot of people do "believe" with a heavy passion that that terrorists regardless of skin colors are always Muslim (which has become a term synonymous with the term "religious nut" in some circles). Timothy McVeigh was a "Muslim" in that nature of the word.

I'm not sure how the statement can be a stereotype but i do understand how it can allude to two of them. One: Terrorist=Muslim Two: Haters=Non-terrorists.
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Postby Pingleeia » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:13 pm

Voltronica wrote:
Issue #1: A lot of people believe that terrorists are all Muslims. Is this a stereotype or true?

The First statement is highly true because a lot of people do "believe" with a heavy passion that that terrorists regardless of skin colors are always Muslim (which has become a term synonymous with the term "religious nut" in some circles). Timothy McVeigh was a "Muslim" in that nature of the word.

I'm not sure how the statement can be a stereotype but i do understand how it can allude to two of them. One: Terrorist=Muslim Two: Haters=Non-terrorists.


Then how do you explain the constant anarchist violance in citties like london?

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Postby Voltronica » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:16 pm

Pingleeia wrote:
Voltronica wrote:The First statement is highly true because a lot of people do "believe" with a heavy passion that that terrorists regardless of skin colors are always Muslim (which has become a term synonymous with the term "religious nut" in some circles). Timothy McVeigh was a "Muslim" in that nature of the word.

I'm not sure how the statement can be a stereotype but i do understand how it can allude to two of them. One: Terrorist=Muslim Two: Haters=Non-terrorists.


Then how do you explain the constant anarchist violance in citties like london?

"Islamo-Anarchists"
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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:16 pm

Pingleeia wrote:
Voltronica wrote:The First statement is highly true because a lot of people do "believe" with a heavy passion that that terrorists regardless of skin colors are always Muslim (which has become a term synonymous with the term "religious nut" in some circles). Timothy McVeigh was a "Muslim" in that nature of the word.

I'm not sure how the statement can be a stereotype but i do understand how it can allude to two of them. One: Terrorist=Muslim Two: Haters=Non-terrorists.


Then how do you explain the constant anarchist violance in citties like london?

its--oh, never mind. I was about to say the most illogical thing you'll ever hear in your lifetime.
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Postby Pingleeia » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:17 pm

More like "Pissed-off taxpayer anarchists."

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Postby Voltronica » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:19 pm

Pingleeia wrote:More like "Pissed-off taxpayer anarchists."

Yeah but what side is the government media on??
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Postby Pingleeia » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:31 pm

The media differs depending on which side you read.
The conservatives are not popular at the moment, but neither are the lib dems or labour party. The media is quite split.

Also, how do you explain the ira, and the english defense league, who have been known to shout the extremely tollerent and wonderfully politicaly correct catchprase "Muslim bombers off our streets."

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