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by Staenwald » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:46 am
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.
by Cannot think of a name » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:24 am
Staenwald wrote:I've not seen the film, since I can't because I live in the UK. Considering the point that many theatres aren't showing it and only a handful are, it's of course not gonna get a huge turnout.
and using sibirsky's source
13 9 Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules Fox $2,081,944 -56.4% 1,849 -1,032 $1,126 $48,122,773 $21 4
14 N Atlas Shrugged: Part I RM $1,686,347 - 299 - $5,640 $1,686,347 $10 1
it's only been out 4 days, whereas as wimpy kid's been open 4 weeks...and it's already made 80% of what wimpy kid has....
What's more, Atlas Shrugged: Part I's box office dropped six percent from Friday to Saturday, further indicating niche appeal. The movie would require exceptional holds moving forward to right its course.
by Lunatic Goofballs » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:59 am
Yuktova wrote:Is Zeitgeist a dirty word now? Who did that? The Monetray Police?
by Yuktova » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:02 am
Goldsaver said: This is murder, not a romantic date!
by Grave_n_idle » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:03 am
Aeronos wrote:http://wonkette.com/443358/terrible-atlas-shrugged-part-i-dismal-at-the-box-office
I've been saying for months now that if Atlas Shrugged is commercially mediocre, I will laugh at the utter irony of it all. A film about a book parading the virtues of capitalism and self-interest fails in the eyes of capitalism. Well, it appears to have come true
Though I'm heavily libertarian myself and agree with Rand on a surprising amount of things, I do not agree with objectivism. If people want to work in collectives rather than working for profit, let them... they'd be committing economic suicide, but let them. Likewise, charity should be an honourable thing, not frowned upon as "intellectual surrender". In short, on the Rothbard vs Rand debate, I side with Rothbard. There, that should clear me from the whole "lolyoujusthaterand" shindig.
This will probably come as good news to most here. Not sure how many objectivists we have here, most of the time I see Atlas Shrugged being rightly panned for being badly written...
by Orwellian Huxly » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:08 am
Lacadaemon wrote:This movie fails because it is left wing rubbish.
by Grave_n_idle » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:15 am
Rambhutan wrote:Is there going to be a porn version Atlas Shagged?
by Staenwald » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:46 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Staenwald wrote:I've not seen the film, since I can't because I live in the UK. Considering the point that many theatres aren't showing it and only a handful are, it's of course not gonna get a huge turnout.
and using sibirsky's source
13 9 Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules Fox $2,081,944 -56.4% 1,849 -1,032 $1,126 $48,122,773 $21 4
14 N Atlas Shrugged: Part I RM $1,686,347 - 299 - $5,640 $1,686,347 $10 1
it's only been out 4 days, whereas as wimpy kid's been open 4 weeks...and it's already made 80% of what wimpy kid has....
No, you've read the chart wrong. In the four weeks that Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules has made $48 million. What Atlas Shrugged Part I did was make 80% of the box office of an under advertised movie that had already been out for four weeks that weekend after Wimpy Kid dropped 56.4% from the previous weekend.
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.
by Harata » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:54 pm
Grave_n_idle wrote:Aeronos wrote:http://wonkette.com/443358/terrible-atlas-shrugged-part-i-dismal-at-the-box-office
I've been saying for months now that if Atlas Shrugged is commercially mediocre, I will laugh at the utter irony of it all. A film about a book parading the virtues of capitalism and self-interest fails in the eyes of capitalism. Well, it appears to have come true
Though I'm heavily libertarian myself and agree with Rand on a surprising amount of things, I do not agree with objectivism. If people want to work in collectives rather than working for profit, let them... they'd be committing economic suicide, but let them. Likewise, charity should be an honourable thing, not frowned upon as "intellectual surrender". In short, on the Rothbard vs Rand debate, I side with Rothbard. There, that should clear me from the whole "lolyoujusthaterand" shindig.
This will probably come as good news to most here. Not sure how many objectivists we have here, most of the time I see Atlas Shrugged being rightly panned for being badly written...
I can't imagine there's going to be much fuss outside of ridiculously small and exclusive circles.
Shit book gets made into shit film, and does poorly at the Box Office. It's hardly a case for Miss Marple.
by Kubra » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:01 pm
IS A MAN NOT ENTITLED TO THE SWEAT OF HIS LOVEMAKING?Rambhutan wrote:Is there going to be a porn version Atlas Shagged?
by New Huxlian Orwell » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:04 pm
Harata wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:
I can't imagine there's going to be much fuss outside of ridiculously small and exclusive circles.
Shit book gets made into shit film, and does poorly at the Box Office. It's hardly a case for Miss Marple.
"Shit book"? Well I feel sorry for you if you can't enjoy such a fine book (assuming you actually read any of it, which I doubt).
by Trollgaard » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:09 pm
by The Black Forrest » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:12 pm
by Harata » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:12 pm
New Huxlian Orwell wrote:Harata wrote:
"Shit book"? Well I feel sorry for you if you can't enjoy such a fine book (assuming you actually read any of it, which I doubt).
I have read the book, and it is tedious. It is all about the poor sacrificing rich people who hold the *sob* whole world on their shoulders. A world run by objectivists would be one in which the poor would be used as chattel. It is horrible writing, shit philosophy and Ayn Rand was a angry poor hating piece of shit. I couldn't be paid to see this movie.
by Alien Space Bats » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:15 am
Lacadaemon wrote:Augarundus wrote:I was initially cynical of the decision to set it in the modern era, but an oil shortage seemed like an adequate reason for rail-use to rise in popularity.
Ugh. Public transport, the left's answer to everything.
And don't even get me started on the Taggart female's complete lack of respect for traditional christian values.
by Lacadaemon » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:22 am
Alien Space Bats wrote:You missed my thread on bowdlerization, didn't you?
by Alien Space Bats » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:54 am
by Lacadaemon » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:24 am
Alien Space Bats wrote:That was my point in the thread, too. Aside from homilies to Atlas Shrugged and some vague idea that Rand believed in free markets, modern day GOP conservatives generally hold positions opposite to Rand's on most issues:
- Rand hated religion, describing it as a "form of mental illness". She found the usual gestures that politicians make towards religion in general and Christianity in particular repulsive.
- Rand believe that women had an absolute right to abortion, right up to the moment of birth.
- While not a feminist (she saw the feminist movement as too deeply steeped in New Left thinking), Rand believed in the absolute legal equality of men and women, and did not see women as "naturally inclined" towards child-rearing and the home rather than career pursuits.
- Rand thought that any and all attempts to legislate morality, including laws against adultery, sodomy, gross indecency, and homosexuality, were absolutely wrong.
- Rand despised governments that practiced torture. Although there are those who claim that she never denounced it, I recall reading an article in the late 60's or early 70's in which she expressed revulsion for the fashion in which many Middle Eastern states treated political prisoners, citing in particular SAVAK's ruthlessness in Iran. From this, I'll go out on a limb and suggest that she'd be outraged at waterboarding, the abuses at Abu Ghraib, and the whole sorry mess that is Guantanamo Bay.
- Rand supported open immigration. 'Nuff said.
- Rand found the Confederacy repulsive, the damned Marxist minx!
by Staenwald » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:12 am
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.
by Maurepas » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:17 am
by Staenwald » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:27 am
Lord Tothe wrote:Well, if Karl Marx turns out to be right, I....I'll eat my hat! As a side note, I need to create a BaconHat (TM) for any such occasions where I may end up actually having to eat my hat. Of course, this isn't one of them.
Katganistan wrote:"You got some Galt not swallowing this swill."
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh go Galt yourself.
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