Atlas Shrugs, Yet Nobody Cares

[Revolutopia]

How could anyone think that book would make a good movie? Even if you're an objectivist you have to admit that Atlas Shrugged is a steaming pile.

ive heard that in the other 2 parts the director has decided to include that chapter long rant in toto. wont THAT be fun?

I am sure that is going to be the entire third film in how long winded it is.

[Magyar Lulz]

Libertarians Speak, Yet Nobody Cares.

[Lacadaemon]

I was initially cynical of the decision to set it in the modern era, but an oil shortage seemed like an adequate reason for rail-use to rise in popularity.

Ugh. Public transport, the left's answer to everything.

And don't even get me started on the Taggart female's complete lack of respect for traditional christian values.

[The Andromeda Islands]

The problem with Randians is that they think Atlas Shrugged and the Fountainhead are Gospel. They're works of fiction.

My favorite book is "The Count of Monte Cristo," but I'm not going to use Edmond Dantes as my personal model for how to live.

[The Black Forrest]

Ayn Rand is a she...

No he's not.

And how would you know this?

[The Black Forrest]

The problem with Randians is that they think Atlas Shrugged and the Fountainhead are Gospel. They're works of fiction.

My favorite book is "The Count of Monte Cristo," but I'm not going to use Edmond Dantes as my personal model for how to live.

Can you call atlas shrugged a work of fiction or a short story with a with a manifesto?

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Meh, never read the book, never gonna watch the movie. I really don't care either way around.

(What's with the connection to Libertarians and her, though? )

[Yuktova]

The book does make a good video-game, give or take a long amout of years.

[The Black Forrest]

The book does make a good video-game, give or take a long amout of years.

Why would you want to play a video game where the wealthy people complain about doing manual labor?

[Yuktova]

The book does make a good video-game, give or take a long amout of years.

Why would you want to play a video game where the wealthy people complain about doing manual labor?

Bioshock ring any bells?

[Seangoli]

:meh: Meh, never read the book, never gonna watch the movie. I really don't care either way around.

(What's with the connection to Libertarians and her, though? )

The book basically espouses the joys of economic freedom, whilst simultaneously showing how terrible and horrible statism and government control are. Also focuses heavily on a free-energy machine, so yeah.

[Lacadaemon]

The book does make a good video-game, give or take a long amout of years.

Why would you want to play a video game where the wealthy people complain about doing manual labor?

Pretty sure that isn't in the book.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

:meh: Meh, never read the book, never gonna watch the movie. I really don't care either way around.

(What's with the connection to Libertarians and her, though? )

The book basically espouses the joys of economic freedom, whilst simultaneously showing how terrible and horrible statism and government control are. Also focuses heavily on a free-energy machine, so yeah.

Economic freedom ≠ Libertarian, necessarily, though. What's a free-energy machine?

[Wikkiwallana]

The book does make a good video-game, give or take a long amout of years.

Why would you want to play a video game where the wealthy people complain about doing manual labor?

Because then you can run fetch quests for them for exp and disproportionate amounts of money. It's a cornerstone of the wandering adventurer economy., right up there with opening chests 3 floors underground in the middle of nowhere, and slaughtering the local wildlife en masse.

[Seangoli]

The book basically espouses the joys of economic freedom, whilst simultaneously showing how terrible and horrible statism and government control are. Also focuses heavily on a free-energy machine, so yeah.

Economic freedom ≠ Libertarian, necessarily, though. What's a free-energy machine?

Exactly what it sounds like. A machine which produces limitless amounts of energy, for essentially free. In the book, it was an engine which used atmospheric static electricity for fuel.
Basically the libertarian utopia could not function without it. I guess. I didn't really get passed that. There comes a point in a book where the level of ridiculous outwieghs my willingness for suspension of disbelief.

[Seangoli]

Why would you want to play a video game where the wealthy people complain about doing manual labor?

Because then you can run fetch quests for them for exp and disproportionate amounts of money. It's a cornerstone of the wandering adventurer economy., right up there with opening chests 3 floors underground in the middle of nowhere, and slaughtering the local wildlife en masse.

Hmm. Kind of reminds me of how libertarians view the economy. The shops will magically have the equipment you need when you need it because you need it. Magically.

[Yuktova]

Why would you want to play a video game where the wealthy people complain about doing manual labor?

Pretty sure that isn't in the book.

What book? Atlas Shrugged? The "Holy" Bible? I was talking about Bioshock, and that's the only "real" education I got from the game, was what Objectivism is, and why it is sorta crazy. I would agree with Sophia Lamb (Bioshock 2 Antagonist) although, I don't really like her ideas, even though she and I are communistic somewhat. And I do like Andrew Ryan (Bioshock's 1st antagonist), don't get me wrong, he is like Howard Hughes on super toxic drugs. But that's the thing, he is.

If they put Peter Joseph (Founder of the Zeitgeist Movement) in a game, then, ya I would agree almost with what he says. But since Ayn Rand is not him, then no, sorry Rand. Ya gotta try harder.

[Lacadaemon]

Exactly what it sounds like. A machine which produces limitless amounts of energy, for essentially free. In the book, it was an engine which used atmospheric static electricity for fuel.
Basically the libertarian utopia could not function without it. I guess. I didn't really get passed that. There comes a point in a book where the level of ridiculous outwieghs my willingness for suspension of disbelief.

She was just jumping on the green energy thing way before anyone else. All she's saying is that private industry can come up with cheap renewable stuffs &c. She's like an early Al Gore.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Economic freedom ≠ Libertarian, necessarily, though. What's a free-energy machine?

Exactly what it sounds like. A machine which produces limitless amounts of energy, for essentially free. In the book, it was an engine which used atmospheric static electricity for fuel.
Basically the libertarian utopia could not function without it. I guess. I didn't really get passed that. There comes a point in a book where the level of ridiculous outwieghs my willingness for suspension of disbelief.

Yea, a book based on the premise of unlimited energy sounds like a faulty foundation.
[kinda irrelevant]I would see a utopia as one where people are completely without interference in their personal lives from the government, and pretty much the extent to which any involvement would be is when it breaches other's rights and taxes.[/irrelevance]

[Wikkiwallana]

Exactly what it sounds like. A machine which produces limitless amounts of energy, for essentially free. In the book, it was an engine which used atmospheric static electricity for fuel.
Basically the libertarian utopia could not function without it. I guess. I didn't really get passed that. There comes a point in a book where the level of ridiculous outwieghs my willingness for suspension of disbelief.

She was just jumping on the green energy thing way before anyone else. All she's saying is that private industry can come up with cheap renewable stuffs &c. She's like an early Al Gore.

Interesting that it hasn't yet then. Something cheap to make that you wont run out of would let you undercut the fuck out of your competitors, yet nobody has done it. Odd that.

[Galla-]

The movie fails because Ayn Rand looks like a man.

[Lacadaemon]

Interesting that it hasn't yet then. Something cheap to make that you wont run out of would let you undercut the fuck out of your competitors, yet nobody has done it. Odd that.

I don't think it's odd at all.

[Seangoli]

She was just jumping on the green energy thing way before anyone else. All she's saying is that private industry can come up with cheap renewable stuffs &c. She's like an early Al Gore.

Interesting that it hasn't yet then. Something cheap to make that you wont run out of would let you undercut the fuck out of your competitors, yet nobody has done it. Odd that.

Problem being that there lacks an a strong infrastructure in place to properly utilize the energy produced by some of the new techniques. There is a lot more to it than putting up a few windfarms, solar farms, and such.

[Yuktova]

They also did not have the technology etheir. If they did, well, Solar and wind would be very common today.

[Wikkiwallana]

Interesting that it hasn't yet then. Something cheap to make that you wont run out of would let you undercut the fuck out of your competitors, yet nobody has done it. Odd that.

Problem being that there lacks an a strong infrastructure in place to properly utilize the energy produced by some of the new techniques. There is a lot more to it than putting up a few windfarms, solar farms, and such.

Hmm didn't think of that. For the record it was a jab at the free market, not alternative energy.