Obama Is Now The Biggest Tax Cutter In American History

[Cannot think of a name]

What would be interesting, in that it in all likelyhood is completely unworkable and not even a good idea on the whole, but interesting none the less, was a law that stated 'if you want to cut shit, you got to start in your own garden first.'

Which is to say, Republicans, you want to cut food stamps or student aid or something considered a 'liberal' or Democratic program, well, first you must cut a matching amount from a Republican sacred cow first. Then, and only then, you can start talking about cuts from the 'other sides' programs.

Republican sacred cow= USS George H.W. Bush SuperCarrier Cost =$6.2 billion

Don't we already have more or those things than the rest of the world combined, or something like that.

[Barringtonia]

What would be interesting, in that it in all likelyhood is completely unworkable and not even a good idea on the whole, but interesting none the less, was a law that stated 'if you want to cut shit, you got to start in your own garden first.'

Which is to say, Republicans, you want to cut food stamps or student aid or something considered a 'liberal' or Democratic program, well, first you must cut a matching amount from a Republican sacred cow first. Then, and only then, you can start talking about cuts from the 'other sides' programs.

The idea that cutting spending is about the deficit is a blatant lie, it's about petty attack on those who need support most.

"Dear America,

Since the economic crisis is attributable to poor fiscal management by the government and basic fraud by leading financial service companies, we have agreed to cut the wages of all elected representatives by half and double taxes on financial institutions in order to atone for the grave pressure we've placed on everyone. It may not fully solve the situation but it's a gesture we feel we need to make.

thnxkbai"

In your dreams America.

[Norstal]

Republican sacred cow= USS George H.W. Bush SuperCarrier Cost =$6.2 billion

Don't we already have more or those things than the rest of the world combined, or something like that.

Too bad we can't eat it.

[Genivaria]

Republican sacred cow= USS George H.W. Bush SuperCarrier Cost =$6.2 billion

Don't we already have more or those things than the rest of the world combined, or something like that.

Hold on, let me get you the big graph.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/75/ ... y-spending

[Genivaria]

What would be interesting, in that it in all likelyhood is completely unworkable and not even a good idea on the whole, but interesting none the less, was a law that stated 'if you want to cut shit, you got to start in your own garden first.'

Which is to say, Republicans, you want to cut food stamps or student aid or something considered a 'liberal' or Democratic program, well, first you must cut a matching amount from a Republican sacred cow first. Then, and only then, you can start talking about cuts from the 'other sides' programs.

The idea that cutting spending is about deficit spending is a blatant lie, it's about petty attack on those who need support most.

"Dear America,

Since the economic crisis is attributable to poor fiscal management by the government and basic fraud by leading financial service companies, we have agreed to cut the wages of all elected representatives by half and double taxes on financial institutions in order to atone for the grave pressure we've placed on everyone. It may not fully solve the situation but it's a gesture we feel we need to make.

thnxkbai"

In your dreams America.

Hahahaha!

[Cannot think of a name]

What would be interesting, in that it in all likelyhood is completely unworkable and not even a good idea on the whole, but interesting none the less, was a law that stated 'if you want to cut shit, you got to start in your own garden first.'

Which is to say, Republicans, you want to cut food stamps or student aid or something considered a 'liberal' or Democratic program, well, first you must cut a matching amount from a Republican sacred cow first. Then, and only then, you can start talking about cuts from the 'other sides' programs.

The idea that cutting spending is about deficit spending is a blatant lie, it's about petty attack on those who need support most.

"Dear America,

Since the economic crisis is attributable to poor fiscal management by the government and basic fraud by leading financial service companies, we have agreed to cut the wages of all elected representatives by half and double taxes on financial institutions in order to atone for the grave pressure we've placed on everyone. It may not fully solve the situation but it's a gesture we feel we need to make.

thnxkbai"

In your dreams America.

It would be swell if the people who actually cause this kind of mess were the ones that had to tighten their belts and not the people who go to work everyday just to make ends meet. You broke it, why are the poor and the unfortunate the ones that have to pay?

[Yuktova]

None of this even matters, becuase does money have any value in nature? No it does not. So why is money important? It doesn't give you water to drink if your in a desert. It doesn't give you food to eat if your staving and you can't find food. So why does our lives depend on it?

Careful your starting to sound like one of my fellow Zeitgeist Movement members.

I am!

[Genivaria]

Careful your starting to sound like one of my fellow Zeitgeist Movement members.

I am!

[Yuktova]

I am a Zeitgeist Member!

[Woidia]

First of all, Wisckol's article has several sticking points. For one thing, Tea Party does not stand for "Taxed Enough Already". It refers to the Boston Tea Party in 1775, when several angry American colonists dumped British tea into Boston Harbor as an act of protest against British "taxation without representation" and heavy-handed governmental control. Secondly, Wisckol seems to ignore the fact that the current tax rates are due in large part to the Bush tax cuts, which Obama wants to repeal for wage earners above $250,000. However, as Jeb Hensarling (R-TX) has said, how taxing the job creator will help the worker is anyone's guess.

Secondly, the main reason that the Tea Party is currently mad at government is the deficit, which has more than doubled under President Obama. Paul Ryan (R-WI)'s proposal to cut government discretionary spending by over $1 trillion over 10 years, backed by Republicans and a good amount of the Tea Party, has already passed the House. Obama has vowed to veto it, preferring instead a plan that cuts about half the amount of the Ryan Plan, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has sworn that it will never pass the Senate.

I have seen other articles from other economists stating that taxes are very high comparatively, so I don't know what to do with Wisckol's article in comparison to theirs.

[Genivaria]

I am a Zeitgeist Member!

[Dyakovo]

First of all, Wisckol's article has several sticking points. For one thing, Tea Party does not stand for "Taxed Enough Already".

Actually, of late they've been claiming that it is an acronym for "Taxed Enough Already"

[Lackadaisical2]

Republican sacred cow= USS George H.W. Bush SuperCarrier Cost =$6.2 billion

Don't we already have more or those things than the rest of the world combined, or something like that.

We're the only ones with super carriers, but yeah.

[Yuktova]

I am a Zeitgeist Member!

Aww! Hey, here are some hugs back!

Anyway, I think you could simply get rid of all debt by getting rid of money. Although certain people in power wouldn't like this, and would do anything to stop this from happening.

[Jahada]

Don't we already have more or those things than the rest of the world combined, or something like that.

Hold on, let me get you the big graph.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/75/ ... y-spending

*Sigh*... Yup, that's the one thing Republicans will never cut. All for the purpose of imperializing the rest of the world.

[United Dependencies]

On the note of the debt: How the Republicans have somehow managed to lay the blame for our debt on Obama is honestly beyond me.

[Genivaria]

On the note of the debt: How the Republicans have somehow managed to lay the blame for our debt on Obama is honestly beyond me.

The same way that they claimed that the healthcare bill would kill old ladies, lying.
Its a skill conservatives are VERY proficient in.

[Genivaria]

On the note of the debt: How the Republicans have somehow managed to lay the blame for our debt on Obama is honestly beyond me.

The same way that they claimed that the healthcare bill would kill old ladies, lying.
Its a skill conservatives are VERY proficient in.
Crap double post, sorry.

[Wikkiwallana]

On the note of the debt: How the Republicans have somehow managed to lay the blame for our debt on Obama is honestly beyond me.

Because they are better at spinning than gyroscopes?

[Sucrati]

Yeah, average income dropped because the unemployment rate went up, with less people earning income, it makes the average less than what it was before, therefore taxes just seem lower, but because income earners that only earn so much get tax refunds and less are paying into the tax system, it also appears that taxes are lower than they were before.

[Wikkiwallana]

Yeah, average income dropped because the unemployment rate went up, with less people earning income, it makes the average less than what it was before, therefore taxes just seem lower, but because income earners that only earn so much get tax refunds and less are paying into the tax system, it also appears that taxes are lower than they were before.

Um, no, the actual tax rates are lower than they've been in decades, as in, regardless of actual income less of it is being taken.

Edit: typo

[Barringtonia]

It would be swell if the people who actually cause this kind of mess were the ones that had to tighten their belts and not the people who go to work everyday just to make ends meet. You broke it, why are the poor and the unfortunate the ones that have to pay?

It's as if I was running a public company where the finance department had been shifting all the money into fast cars, hookers and cocaine and when it all came out they cried 'don't punish us, we keep this company running!' and so I fired the janitors, secretaries, junior staff and HR department while giving myself a raise and a massive bonus to the finance department.

Thanks America!

EDIT: I mean, seriously, that is basically what happened, why would management vote to restrict themselves if they can get away with it? The amazing thing is they can go to certain sectors of lesser people and say 'hey, it's those other people who are being paid to do nothing that are screwing everything up, let's screw them!'

Divide and conquer.

[Arkinesia]

Because he's a Democrat.

What this guy said.

[Jahada]

It's as if I was running a public company where the finance department had been shifting all the money into fast cars, hookers and cocaine and when it all came out they cried 'don't punish us, we keep this company running!' and so I fired the janitors, secretaries, junior staff and HR department while giving myself a raise and a massive bonus to the finance department.

That quote is going straight into my sig ftw.

[Maurepas]

On the note of the debt: How the Republicans have somehow managed to lay the blame for our debt on Obama is honestly beyond me.

People would rather hear that it's his fault, and they simply told them so. It's not that hard to figure out.