If Arizona were to secede from the United States ..

[GeneralHaNor]

Might makes right, I know what you believe, and am now free to ignore you.

Aren't you always going on about how you're going to shoot it out?
How is this different?

simple, I am not the initiator of force, I didn't start it.

[Unilisia]

A secession of Arizona from the Union would result in the United States Armed Forces recapturing it forcefully.

You know this for a fact? What'd you do? Hack God's computer and look at the algorithms for U.S. politics?

It's called common sense.

[Maryginia]

we're not very smart i live in a suburb of phoenix trust me i know.

Yeah, that's the sad bit.

I don't like generalising, though. All you need is a few smart guys (who''ll be leaders), and a population that's willing to stick it out for their "freedom". Do you have that kind of thing?

most of the population votes based on what party they belong to they can go against every issue they stand for and they believe in but if they're registered to that party they vote for that party dumb people=dumb leaders.

[GeneralHaNor]

Because not all Arizonans would want to leave the country.

People could apply to have legal resident status instead of Arizona citizenship if the secesh government is not looking for a fight.

the 14th amendment directly states that you are both a citizen of your state of residence, and The united states

They wouldn't be leaving the united states, and they wouldn't need to apply for any special status. The only difference now is who gets the taxes and who's gets to make and enforce laws

[Celis]

Like I said Arizona would be forcefully re-taken. If Arizona could even officially secede before the movement was put to an end.

[The Evil Reich]

You know this for a fact? What'd you do? Hack God's computer and look at the algorithms for U.S. politics?

It's called common sense.

No, it's called having your brain stuck in 1865. "It was this way in the Civil War, so it's going to be this way every time."

[The Evil Reich]

People could apply to have legal resident status instead of Arizona citizenship if the secesh government is not looking for a fight.

the 14th amendment directly states that you are both a citizen of your state of residence, and The united states

They wouldn't be leaving the united states, and they wouldn't need to apply for any special status. The only difference now is who gets the taxes and who's gets to make and enforce laws

The 14th Amendment would not apply in Arizona after it seceded.

[Unilisia]

It's called common sense.

No, it's called having your brain stuck in 1865. "It was this way in the Civil War, so it's going to be this way every time."

No, it's the fact that Arizona does not have the military potential to stand against the full brunt of the United States Armed Forces.

[The Evil Reich]

Like I said Arizona would be forcefully re-taken. If Arizona could even officially secede before the movement was put to an end.

If you keep repeating it, that makes it true.

[Keronians]

No, it's called having your brain stuck in 1865. "It was this way in the Civil War, so it's going to be this way every time."

No, it's the fact that Arizona does not have the military potential to stand against the full brunt of the United States Armed Forces.

*cough* guerrilla warfare *cough*

[Unilisia]

No, it's the fact that Arizona does not have the military potential to stand against the full brunt of the United States Armed Forces.

*cough* guerrilla warfare *cough*

*cough* Caledonian methods *cough*

[Wamitoria]

No, it's the fact that Arizona does not have the military potential to stand against the full brunt of the United States Armed Forces.

*cough* guerrilla warfare *cough*

The whole state's one big flat stretch of desert. Not that many places to hide.

[The Evil Reich]

No, it's called having your brain stuck in 1865. "It was this way in the Civil War, so it's going to be this way every time."

No, it's the fact that Arizona does not have the military potential to stand against the full brunt of the United States Armed Forces.

Who said Arizona was going to try to stop the U.S. by military force?

[Wamitoria]

No, it's the fact that Arizona does not have the military potential to stand against the full brunt of the United States Armed Forces.

Who said Arizona was going to try to stop the U.S. by military force?

Nobody. However, it is assumed that Arizona will try to defend it's "independence."

[Farnhamia]

*cough* guerrilla warfare *cough*

The whole state's one big flat stretch of desert. Not that many places to hide.

Oh, I'm sure the Navajo will take them in.

[Unilisia]

No, it's the fact that Arizona does not have the military potential to stand against the full brunt of the United States Armed Forces.

Who said Arizona was going to try to stop the U.S. by military force?

And then it is reabsorbed, and the situation is remembered as a blemish on the history of Arizona.

[Keronians]

*cough* guerrilla warfare *cough*

The whole state's one big flat stretch of desert. Not that many places to hide.

That certainly sucks for them. I'm not really familiar with Arizonan geography.

[Vivolve]

*cough* guerrilla warfare *cough*

The whole state's one big flat stretch of desert. Not that many places to hide.

There are some fantastic shopping malls north of Phoenix. These should suffice.

[The Evil Reich]

Who said Arizona was going to try to stop the U.S. by military force?

Nobody. However, it is assumed that Arizona will try to defend it's "independence."

Who says that can only be done by military force?

[The Evil Reich]

Who said Arizona was going to try to stop the U.S. by military force?

And then it is reabsorbed, and the situation is remembered as a blemish on the history of Arizona.

Yeah, kind of like India is still a British colony.

[Wamitoria]

The whole state's one big flat stretch of desert. Not that many places to hide.

Oh, I'm sure the Navajo will take them in.

Still, Arizona has less places to hide than most nations on earth. Not to mention the prospect of an populace unwilling to fight for secession.

Shit would hit the fan if the US started taking hostages...

[Wamitoria]

Nobody. However, it is assumed that Arizona will try to defend it's "independence."

Who says that can only be done by military force?

Again, nobody. But the fact that it's EXTREMELY unlikely they'll try and go Gandhi on us, it's pretty much assumable.

[Keronians]

Nobody. However, it is assumed that Arizona will try to defend it's "independence."

Who says that can only be done by military force?

Thinks of Gandhi.

But yeah, a Gandhi's not so useful when the government attacks. So, how could they defend their independence?

[Wamitoria]

The whole state's one big flat stretch of desert. Not that many places to hide.

There are some fantastic shopping malls north of Phoenix. These should suffice.

Napalm. That is all.

[Vivolve]

Oh, I'm sure the Navajo will take them in.

Still, Arizona has less places to hide than most nations on earth. Not to mention the prospect of an populace unwilling to fight for secession.

Shit would hit the fan if the US started taking hostages...

The terrain, in most areas, is actually fairly mountainous and rocky. More oppurtunities than anywhere on the Plains.