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by Winning Tiger Blood » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:44 am
by UCUMAY » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:46 am
by Dempublicents1 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:54 pm
Darkshadowskyguy wrote:Well I felt like making some feminists angry, and make a topic that probably hasn't been used here before. Do you think a man shouldn't have to pay child support if the woman tells him that she's not going to have an abortion, and he wanted her to have one? Since logically the woman chose to keep the child, and should have to have the responsibility and the male not have to.I do think in all other circumstances the man should have to pay child support though.
by Bitchkitten » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:47 pm
by UCUMAY » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:53 pm
Bitchkitten wrote:SaintB wrote:Its not allergies to the materials... I could deal with that. Its more complicated
Yeah, my sister uses the excuse for her three kids that she can't use any birth control. She says the pill makes her depressed and she has a latex allergy. Now please tell me why a woman who manages a 24 hour porn store doesn't know about lambskin condoms. And she says she's allergic to spermicide too. Even some barrier method with no spermicide has got to give better results than what she's doing. Or not doing.
by SaintB » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:11 pm
Bitchkitten wrote:SaintB wrote:Its not allergies to the materials... I could deal with that. Its more complicated
Yeah, my sister uses the excuse for her three kids that she can't use any birth control. She says the pill makes her depressed and she has a latex allergy. Now please tell me why a woman who manages a 24 hour porn store doesn't know about lambskin condoms. And she says she's allergic to spermicide too. Even some barrier method with no spermicide has got to give better results than what she's doing. Or not doing.
by Seperates » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:12 pm
SaintB wrote:Bitchkitten wrote:Yeah, my sister uses the excuse for her three kids that she can't use any birth control. She says the pill makes her depressed and she has a latex allergy. Now please tell me why a woman who manages a 24 hour porn store doesn't know about lambskin condoms. And she says she's allergic to spermicide too. Even some barrier method with no spermicide has got to give better results than what she's doing. Or not doing.
I want a damn manpill.. I'd get surgery but I want kids maybe possibly someday.
by Myrensis » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:15 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:17 pm
Myrensis wrote:I think as long as Abortion is legal men should not be required to pay child support, provided they sign some sort of waiver surrendering all parental rights.
It's of interest to me that a man who doesn't want to pay for a child he didn't want for 18 years is a deadbeat and a loser, but a woman who opts to kill an unwanted child is exercising her beautiful god given right as a woman.
by Cameroi » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:19 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:20 pm
Cameroi wrote:males who get pregnant should have the option of having an abortion.
NOT those who don't, on who ELSE does.
no one has any business telling telling someone else that they should or should not.
and i still say, 9 out of 10 fetuses would rather be aborted then be born unwanted.
by Myrensis » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:22 pm
Cameroi wrote:and i still say, 9 out of 10 fetuses would rather be aborted then be born unwanted.
The Blaatschapen wrote:Did you poll those fetuses on their opinion?
by Ryadn » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:25 pm
by Cameroi » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:18 pm
Myrensis wrote:Cameroi wrote:and i still say, 9 out of 10 fetuses would rather be aborted then be born unwanted.
You should totally go into child counselling and recommend children from broken homes commit suicide. Death is the preferable option right? Just because their parents were too selfish to do it earlier doesn't mean they should have to suffer now.The Blaatschapen wrote:Did you poll those fetuses on their opinion?
What was that quote, "I notice everybody who is for abortion has all ready been born." ?
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:20 pm
Cameroi wrote:Myrensis wrote:
You should totally go into child counselling and recommend children from broken homes commit suicide. Death is the preferable option right? Just because their parents were too selfish to do it earlier doesn't mean they should have to suffer now.
What was that quote, "I notice everybody who is for abortion has all ready been born." ?
i notice everyone who's against it has already been born.
by Seperates » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:31 pm
Myrensis wrote:Cameroi wrote:and i still say, 9 out of 10 fetuses would rather be aborted then be born unwanted.
You should totally go into child counselling and recommend children from broken homes commit suicide. Death is the preferable option right? Just because their parents were too selfish to do it earlier doesn't mean they should have to suffer now.The Blaatschapen wrote:Did you poll those fetuses on their opinion?
What was that quote, "I notice everybody who is for abortion has all ready been born." ?
by Meowfoundland » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:05 pm
Seperates wrote:Yeah, because my parents wanted me. I've seen the misery of those unwanted children, who, if things don't get better, will probebly attempt suicide before they at the age they can contribute anything to the world community... We might as we save them that pain and suffering, if all it will amount to is just a larger, just as dead, just as unfufilled, just as pointless, body.
by Soviet Haaregrad » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:08 pm
by Maurepas » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:14 pm
make a topic that probably hasn't been used here before.
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:17 pm
Maurepas wrote:make a topic that probably hasn't been used here before.
Gonna have to really try harder than that then. Your problem is a biological one, not a rights one. You have every right to decide to abort your part in the reproductive process.
It just so happens that the male reproductive process is pretty short, it's commonly known as "pulling out".
by UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:40 pm
by The Congregationists » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:41 pm
Maurepas wrote:Gonna have to really try harder than that then. Your problem is a biological one, not a rights one. You have every right to decide to abort your part in the reproductive process.
It just so happens that the male reproductive process is pretty short, it's commonly known as "pulling out".
by Grainne Ni Malley » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:44 pm
Darkshadowskyguy wrote:Well I felt like making some feminists angry, and make a topic that probably hasn't been used here before. Do you think a man shouldn't have to pay child support if the woman tells him that she's not going to have an abortion, and he wanted her to have one? Since logically the woman chose to keep the child, and should have to have the responsibility and the male not have to.I do think in all other circumstances the man should have to pay child support though.
by Maurepas » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:44 pm
The Congregationists wrote:Maurepas wrote:Gonna have to really try harder than that then. Your problem is a biological one, not a rights one. You have every right to decide to abort your part in the reproductive process.
It just so happens that the male reproductive process is pretty short, it's commonly known as "pulling out".
One could just as easily use these arguments against abortion rights.
"Rights" of all kinds are arbitrary social constructs, not things arising in nature or divinely ordained.
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