Tibetan Independence?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

an odd thing for someone so keen on Nepal to suggest, am I to be so bold as to suggest you support the Maoists?

I dont see it odd at all. India has been welding influence since ages, and has dont no good. If Nepal can get closer to China, then it could do better. As for maoist thing: I dont support most of their policies: but foreign policy is something which I do support.

*Clucks*

[Greater Tezdrian]

See bolded bit. Its a possibility.

No, no it's not. Unless His Holiness achieves Nirvana, he will be reincarnated.

[Greater Tezdrian]

http://www.tricycle.com/p/2077

He stated a 'free country', not necessarily the West.

Meh, there's a high likelihood. Vajrayana is more prevalent in the West than any other area other than North India or Tibet.

[Xin Han]

All very interesting takes.

For those of you who feel so strongly about Tibetan independence, do you feel that the United States and Canada should break up into the original Native American nations? I mean, they were in North America first until Europeans came and either pushed them out or killed them.

[Sunny Marionette]

I say it should be free...but I think after so long it would be unwise to try and liberate it, and even if it was the transition would be tough.

[The Corparation]

See bolded bit. Its a possibility.

No, no it's not. Unless His Holiness achieves Nirvana, he will be reincarnated.

These are not my words. They are his holiness's. Have a problem with it take it up with him.

[Avenio]

All very interesting takes.

For those of you who feel so strongly about Tibetan independence, do you feel that the United States and Canada should break up into the original Native American nations? I mean, they were in North America first until Europeans came and either pushed them out or killed them.

No, I don't think so. If it was the 17th century, then possibly, but at this point the damage was done long ago, and corrective justice of this type would only make people more angry than they already are. However, we can do more to help the First Nations peoples out of poverty and allow their culture to thrive; that much we have a responsibility to do as the ancestors of those who took advantage of the situation and whom continue to profit off of their fruits.

[New Manvir]

All very interesting takes.

For those of you who feel so strongly about Tibetan independence, do you feel that the United States and Canada should break up into the original Native American nations? I mean, they were in North America first until Europeans came and either pushed them out or killed them.

AFAIK the vast majority of Native Americans died from old world diseases that they had never encountered before, not conquest.

[Phoneboothknifefights]

All very interesting takes.

For those of you who feel so strongly about Tibetan independence, do you feel that the United States and Canada should break up into the original Native American nations? I mean, they were in North America first until Europeans came and either pushed them out or killed them.

AFAIK the vast majority of Native Americans died from old world diseases that they had never encountered before, not conquest.

Plenty of the ones left over did die of conquest.

[The Corparation]

AFAIK the vast majority of Native Americans died from old world diseases that they had never encountered before, not conquest.

Plenty of the ones left over did die of conquest.

And plenty of those that died from disease were deliberately infected as part of the conquest. Infected small pox blankets for the win!!

[The Imperial Shard]

Actually no, "Free Tibet" is not enough. Tibet is not Chinese. Screw borders and technicalities; Tibet is not Chinese. Tibet is Tibetan. It has a unique culture, language, and religion; all of which are entirely separate from Chinese culture. Tibet is Tibetan and the cultural rape and genocide of Tibet by the Han is unacceptable.

I love this.

[Jian Hua]

FREE TIBET!!!

STOP CHINESE CULTURAL GENOCIDE!!

[The Imperial Shard]

All very interesting takes.

For those of you who feel so strongly about Tibetan independence, do you feel that the United States and Canada should break up into the original Native American nations? I mean, they were in North America first until Europeans came and either pushed them out or killed them.

That's wonderfully good logic!

So, does that suddenly make it all right? To reiterate a barbaric practice just because "someone else did it before"? Can I go and destroy... say, the Romans because of what they did to the Celtic people before? I mean, they did it, why can't I?


I'd like to know the answer.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

All very interesting takes.

For those of you who feel so strongly about Tibetan independence, do you feel that the United States and Canada should break up into the original Native American nations? I mean, they were in North America first until Europeans came and either pushed them out or killed them.

Nope.

[The Imperial Shard]

Plenty of the ones left over did die of conquest.

And plenty of those that died from disease were deliberately infected as part of the conquest. Infected small pox blankets for the win!!

You're comparing two time periods separated by 400 years almost.

You can't hold what the colonials did to our moral standards of today. The difference is, Tibet was recently taken over.

[Threlizdun]

Is there anyone aside from those who live in China that DOESN'T support Tibetan independence?

[Octopucta]

That's wonderfully good logic!

So, does that suddenly make it all right? To reiterate a barbaric practice just because "someone else did it before"? Can I go and destroy... say, the Romans because of what they did to the Celtic people before? I mean, they did it, why can't I?


I'd like to know the answer.

You are certainly welcome to try, but without a time machine, destroying the Roman Empire might prove difficult

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Is there anyone aside from those who live in China that DOESN'T support Tibetan independence?

Great Nepal.

[Trotskylvania]

And plenty of those that died from disease were deliberately infected as part of the conquest. Infected small pox blankets for the win!!

You're comparing two time periods separated by 400 years almost.

You can't hold what the colonials did to our moral standards of today. The difference is, Tibet was recently taken over.

No, it wasn't. Tibet was part of China for hundreds of years. It remained part of the Republic of China after the collapse of the Qing dynasty, with de jure autonomy. It remained this way under the PRC, until the PRC tried to undo their theocratic, feudal socio-economic system.

[Wamitoria]

Is there anyone aside from those who live in China that DOESN'T support Tibetan independence?

Great Nepal.

Which is odd, considering China is "communist."

[Greed and Death]

Independence the modern trend in international law is self determination.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Great Nepal.

Which is odd, considering China is "communist."

He has the bizarre notion that a China-dominated Asia is better than an India-dominated Asia.

[Nazi Flower Power]

It should be up to the people who are in Tibet. I don't think we should fight China over this issue, but in an ideal world, they would allow a referendum and give the Tibetans the option to secede if the majority voted for independence.

[Greed and Death]

It should be up to the people who are in Tibet. I don't think we should fight China over this issue, but in an ideal world, they would allow a referendum and give the Tibetans the option to secede if the majority voted for independence.

The issue will be moot in a few years they keep moving in Han Chinese to the point that they will make a majority of the population.

[Los Cabreddes]

Tibet SHOULD be a free nation, though how you would go about making it one is very questionable indeed.