Canadians, eh?

[Inaccurate America]

Yup, this is her http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Margriet_of_the_Netherlands.

She is officially British as well as Dutch though. Because the brits decided she was, hah! Might as well not have bothered.

Well, A for effort?

Definitely!

[DaWoad]

When your military strategy never evolves ever you become increasing susceptible to people with the capability for original thinking.

Military strategy doesn't evolve...

We still follow the basic formula as Hannibal, Alexander, and Manstein have all done.

The worst military "commanders" have been "original thinking" douchebags that think they know what's what and conventional tactics be damned.

of course it does. If you were to use tactics applicable with modern arms in roman legionnaires you would have gotten slaughtered ditto if you attempted to form a companty of marines into a sheild wall to charge an enemy position. Tactics evolve to fit the situation that technology and manufacturing place on them. Some things stay the same, organizational things, some tactical realities but even those evolved from what was originally individual warriors ducking it out in a thousand duels on a battle field.

[Kubra]

Medal of honor is a USA thing. We call it the Victoria Cross.

"The Lone Hawk" Billy Bishop

Canada’s top pilot
Bishop is one of the most celebrated pilots in Canadian history. His heroics include taking out 72 enemy planes, which included an in-flight encounter with the legendary Red Baron Manfred von Richthofen, and he was also instrumental in creating the Royal Canadian Air Force. Bishop was the recipient of the Victoria Cross (VC), the British Empire’s most distinguished honor. On June 2, 1917, he single-handedly attacked an aerodrome and disabled several German planes before most of them could even retaliate. His plane was badly damaged on the return trip home, but he managed to make it back in one piece. Bishop was awarded the VC for his actions, and so Canadians should never forget the legend of The Lone Hawk.

Ernest "Smokey" Smith

Ernest “Smokey” Smith is one of Canada’s most distinguished and recognizable war heroes. Smith was with the Seaforth Highlands of Canada, and tasked with establishing a bridgehead over the Savio River when his company came under fire from German tanks. His comrade wounded, Smith stepped out into the line of fire, disabled a German tank with an anti-tank missile, fended off 10 German infantry with a Tommy gun, held his position against more infantry, and brought his comrades to safety and first aid. Smith was awarded the VC by King George VI at Buckingham Palace for his actions.

There's two want more?

You do know I was being a sarcastic ass right? I know what the Victoria Cross is. Not as familiar with any of its recipients though.

Even I picked up on the whitetext.
And I almost never check.

[Nicksyllvania]

Military strategy doesn't evolve...

We still follow the basic formula as Hannibal, Alexander, and Manstein have all done.

The worst military "commanders" have been "original thinking" douchebags that think they know what's what and conventional tactics be damned.

Such as?

Ambrose Burnside
Luigi Capello
Braxton Bragg
Giulio Douhet
Douglas MacArthur
Among others

[Oterro]

And it took them losing their sovereignity to realise CHARGING IN A COMPRESSED GROUP is not a very good idea. Against the British, atleast.

No, the French were just cowards

Brits charged in mass formations all the time and won

Nah, mate, they're not all cowards in the same way not all British soldiers were brave.

[Sibirsky]

Canada is Americas wimpy little brother. You're way to polite and never quite became independent from mom.

how do you figure wimpy? We've got a better war record than the states and a history of getting involved in both world wars before the states did.

Maybe he means, not a bully.

I don't equate that with wimpy.

[DaWoad]

how do you figure wimpy? We've got a better war record than the states and a history of getting involved in both world wars before the states did.

Maybe he means, not a bully.

I don't equate that with wimpy.

neither do I *shrugs*

[The Corparation]

how do you figure wimpy? We've got a better war record than the states and a history of getting involved in both world wars before the states did.

Maybe he means, not a bully.

I don't equate that with wimpy.

Or maybe I meant sarcasm?

[Nicksyllvania]

Military strategy doesn't evolve...

We still follow the basic formula as Hannibal, Alexander, and Manstein have all done.

The worst military "commanders" have been "original thinking" douchebags that think they know what's what and conventional tactics be damned.

of course it does. If you were to use tactics applicable with modern arms in roman legionnaires you would have gotten slaughtered ditto if you attempted to form a companty of marines into a sheild wall to charge an enemy position. Tactics evolve to fit the situation that technology and manufacturing place on them. Some things stay the same, organizational things, some tactical realities but even those evolved from what was originally individual warriors ducking it out in a thousand duels on a battle field.

Are you uneducated enough to say modern tactics does not involve the age old encirclement, flanking, withdrawls, concentrating armies to open a breach in an enemy defence. Or are you crass enough to suggest ancients did not understand logistics, delaying actions and double envelopes?

Only a complete imbecile would think a shield wall is a "tactic".

[New Repac]

You do know I was being a sarcastic ass right? I know what the Victoria Cross is. Not as familiar with any of its recipients though.

Sorry, I get worked up about the Canadian Forces name being dragged through the dirt. Even by Canadians.

[Kubra]

Such as?

Ambrose Burnside
Luigi Capello
Braxton Bragg
Giulio Douhet
Douglas MacArthur
Among others

>MacArthur
>overtly original

ahahahahahahaha

[Nicksyllvania]

No, the French were just cowards

Brits charged in mass formations all the time and won

Nah, mate, they're not all cowards in the same way not all British soldiers were brave.

A Frenchman's bravery is dependent on the number of Frenchmen behind him.

A Briton is no braver then any other soldier in the world, he is simply braver for a longer duration.

[Smartephant]

And it took them losing their sovereignity to realise CHARGING IN A COMPRESSED GROUP is not a very good idea. Against the British, atleast.

No, the French were just cowards

Brits charged in mass formations all the time and won

Rudyard Kipling once famously said about the French: "Their business is war, and they do their business."

The French are not cowardly. They've got the 4th largest military budget in the world. They've fought about 170 major wars and numerous other smaller skirmishes and they win most of the time. I would not want to fight in a war against France, they are bloodthirsty.

[SaintB]

Canada is alright. Its up north and doesn't afraid of anything.

[Inaccurate America]

No, the French were just cowards

Brits charged in mass formations all the time and won

Rudyard Kipling once famously said about the French: "Their business is war, and they do their business."

The French are not cowardly. They've got the 4th largest military budget in the world. They've fought about 170 major wars and numerous other smaller skirmishes and they win most of the time. I would not want to fight in a war against France, they are bloodthirsty.

I find it funny how everybody always forgets about this particular Frenchman. What was his name again? Oh yes, Napoleon Bonaparte. It took only a coalition of nations to beat him. Bloody coward. The French are truly horrible in war.

[DaWoad]

of course it does. If you were to use tactics applicable with modern arms in roman legionnaires you would have gotten slaughtered ditto if you attempted to form a companty of marines into a sheild wall to charge an enemy position. Tactics evolve to fit the situation that technology and manufacturing place on them. Some things stay the same, organizational things, some tactical realities but even those evolved from what was originally individual warriors ducking it out in a thousand duels on a battle field.

Are you uneducated enough to say modern tactics does not involve the age old encirclement, flanking, withdrawls, concentrating armies to open a breach in an enemy defence. Or are you crass enough to suggest ancients did not understand logistics, delaying actions and double envelopes?

Only a complete imbecile would think a shield wall is a "tactic".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_tactics

I would suggest "form shield wall and charge" is certainly a tactic by that definition given that it involves a small (relatively) formation of units and a set of orders. I would further suggest that, yes, tactics certainly have evolved given that even such basic things as "encirclement, flanking, withdrawals (sic), concentrating armies" (the last being strategy by the way, not tactics.) evolved out of forms of combat that were less complex. combined arms tactics, heavy cavalry tactics, artillery tactics, air combat and naval warfare are all things who's tactics, even some of the fundamentals have changed drastically over the last, oh say 2100years. Cavalry tactics used to consist solely of "screen while the infantry forms then chase down survivors in a route" because there was no such thing as heavy cav. that could actually push home a charge. You may be conflating tactics with logistics and strategy but only an idiot would claim that any of the above haven't evolved somewhat over the last couple of thousand years and, really, the only one that even vaguely resembles the ancient variety is strategy.

[SaintB]

No, the French were just cowards

Brits charged in mass formations all the time and won

Rudyard Kipling once famously said about the French: "Their business is war, and they do their business."

The French are not cowardly. They've got the 4th largest military budget in the world. They've fought about 170 major wars and numerous other smaller skirmishes and they win most of the time. I would not want to fight in a war against France, they are bloodthirsty.

Srsly, most French defeats are because of their over willingness to get into the thick of things.

[Oterro]

Nah, mate, they're not all cowards in the same way not all British soldiers were brave.

A Frenchman's bravery is dependent on the number of Frenchmen behind him.

A Briton is no braver then any other soldier in the world, he is simply braver for a longer duration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_ ... al_attacks

[Nicksyllvania]

No, the French were just cowards

Brits charged in mass formations all the time and won

Rudyard Kipling once famously said about the French: "Their business is war, and they do their business."

The French are not cowardly. They've got the 4th largest military budget in the world. They've fought about 170 major wars and numerous other smaller skirmishes and they win most of the time. I would not want to fight in a war against France, they are bloodthirsty.

Having a big military budget does not make you brave. Look at America.

Winning does not mean you are brave either. Look at America...

Kipling didn't serve in His Majesty's forces and hence only makes such a comment from his pale understanding of the French Military, which while better then most wasn't certainly noteworthy for their bravery on the field of battle as much as they pretended to have elan.

[Tokarek]

Canada has some personality. You have the Newfies/Maritimes (which has a language of its own), the Frenchie radical separists in Quebec, the hippy pot smokers in BC, the conservative rednecks in Alberta, the vast wilderness of the northern territories (mostly uninhabitated... if you wanted to live in the wilderness undisturbed that'd be the place),America Jr. (Ontario), and Canada's empty wastelands (Saskatchewan and Manitoba).

Luckily, I live out west where I enjoy the economic benefits of Alberta and the beautiful scenery of BC. The pot is pretty good too, eh? I've lived here most of my life (dual citizenship) and don't have many bad things to say about Canada... except how I loathe hockey and how big it is here. I'd kill for an NBA team out west again.

[Kubra]

Rudyard Kipling once famously said about the French: "Their business is war, and they do their business."

The French are not cowardly. They've got the 4th largest military budget in the world. They've fought about 170 major wars and numerous other smaller skirmishes and they win most of the time. I would not want to fight in a war against France, they are bloodthirsty.

Having a big military budget does not make you brave. Look at America.

Winning does not mean you are brave either. Look at America...

Kipling didn't serve in His Majesty's forces and hence only makes such a comment from his pale understanding of the French Military, which while better then most wasn't certainly noteworthy for their bravery on the field of battle as much as they pretended to have elan.

Willingness to give up your life for a completely pointless endeavor has to be bravery, or otherwise insanity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crecy

[Nicksyllvania]

A Frenchman's bravery is dependent on the number of Frenchmen behind him.

A Briton is no braver then any other soldier in the world, he is simply braver for a longer duration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_ ... al_attacks

As usual a Frenchman is brave if he believes in Final Victory. Unfortunately Vietnamese peasants proved too much for them.

[Oterro]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_ ... al_attacks

As usual a Frenchman is brave if he believes in Final Victory. Unfortunately Vietnamese peasants proved too much for them.

Is final victory glorious death in your eyes?

It was 4,000 peasants IIRC, and 70 wounded Frenchmen.

[Nicksyllvania]

Having a big military budget does not make you brave. Look at America.

Winning does not mean you are brave either. Look at America...

Kipling didn't serve in His Majesty's forces and hence only makes such a comment from his pale understanding of the French Military, which while better then most wasn't certainly noteworthy for their bravery on the field of battle as much as they pretended to have elan.

Willingness to give up your life for a completely pointless endeavor has to be bravery, or otherwise insanity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crecy

As I stated before, a Frenchman is brave when they have numerical superiority and think they will win.

[Nicksyllvania]

As usual a Frenchman is brave if he believes in Final Victory. Unfortunately Vietnamese peasants proved too much for them.

Is final victory glorious death in your eyes?

It was 4,000 peasants IIRC, and 70 wounded Frenchmen.

One European is worth a hundred Orientals.

The Frenchmen though they could take on seven thousand, forgetting that they were French.