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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:46 pm

Many Atheists have been in this mental state at some point in their lives. There are some who were Atheists from the get go, but this is not always the case. Most of us believe in God at some point or another.

My question is, if and when you were a Theist, what was your reasoning for holding that belief? What was it that made you believe? Did you want to believe?

To be completely honest, I don't think I ever had reasoning for being a Theist. My mother approved of my readiness to worship, and my father approved of my Bible studies. It just always seemed a good thing to do in that regard. This was before I realized that I didn't have to believe something to please my parents.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:47 pm

Pascal's wager was my only justification.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:47 pm

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Postby Bum Venit Grata » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:48 pm

I am atheist, and I'm one because s lot of my personal life goes against most religions (gay, darwinist, etc.)
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Postby UCUMAY » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:49 pm

I wanted believe in the Christian God. I however cannot accept a God who creates human beings, and then punishes them for his own creation. A God like that is unacceptable in my opinion.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:50 pm

Bum Venit Grata wrote:I am atheist, and I'm one because s lot of my personal life goes against most religions (gay, darwinist, etc.)
Last I checked Darwin was fairly devout in his religious beliefs.
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:50 pm

I was a theist, then I cashed all the checks I got for my confirmation.
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Postby UCUMAY » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:51 pm

Kubra wrote:
Bum Venit Grata wrote:I am atheist, and I'm one because s lot of my personal life goes against most religions (gay, darwinist, etc.)
Last I checked Darwin was fairly devout in his religious beliefs.

He later renounced it....
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:52 pm

My reason for being a Christian, anyway, was simply because I knew nothing else. I didn't think about it much. I neglect to say "theist" because the definition of "god" is so loose, I can't necessarily say I'm not theistic. For sure, though, I don't believe in a bearded man in the sky, or anything of the sort. More along the lines of East Asian religions and philosophies.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:52 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Kubra wrote: Last I checked Darwin was fairly devout in his religious beliefs.

He later renounced it....
Though I'm pretty sure he never stopped believing in the possible existence of god.
I'm pretty sure he adopted an agnostic thiest view.
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Postby UCUMAY » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:53 pm

Kubra wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:He later renounced it....
Though I'm pretty sure he never stopped believing in the possible existence of god.
I'm pretty sure he adopted an agnostic thiest view.

His theories he renounced... Not his faith.
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Postby Caecili » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:54 pm

I was born an atheist. When I asked my parents about religion or God, they told me that they didn't believe but that I could make my own choice. Safe to say, I chose the way I was born. Granted, I never believed in the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, or Santa Claus, either.
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Postby Bum Venit Grata » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:54 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Kubra wrote: Though I'm pretty sure he never stopped believing in the possible existence of god.
I'm pretty sure he adopted an agnostic thiest view.

His theories he renounced... Not his faith.



no...the point is that the Christian church is anti-Darwinist
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Postby Kubra » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:55 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Kubra wrote: Though I'm pretty sure he never stopped believing in the possible existence of god.
I'm pretty sure he adopted an agnostic thiest view.

His theories he renounced... Not his faith.
Nonono I'm pretty sure he started with a specific school of christianity
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:55 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Pascal's wager was my only justification.

This, generally. "Why not believe in god? It won't do me any harm." But I couldn't live with myself.
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Postby Caecili » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:55 pm

Bum Venit Grata wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:His theories he renounced... Not his faith.



no...the point is that the Christian church is anti-Darwinist


Actually, most Christian churches believe in Theistic Evolution.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:56 pm

Bum Venit Grata wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:His theories he renounced... Not his faith.



no...the point is that the Christian church is anti-Darwinist
It's not like Christianity is the only religion.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:56 pm

Caecili wrote:I was born an atheist. When I asked my parents about religion or God, they told me that they didn't believe but that I could make my own choice. Safe to say, I chose the way I was born. Granted, I never believed in the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, or Santa Claus, either.

I'm not sure about Santa Claus. Last Christmas we didn't go to bed until one, and when we woke up there was a plasma TV in the living room.

Which is a big fucking deal in my family.
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Postby Caecili » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:56 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Kubra wrote: Though I'm pretty sure he never stopped believing in the possible existence of god.
I'm pretty sure he adopted an agnostic thiest view.

His theories he renounced... Not his faith.


Wait... what?
I've done a lot of research on Darwin's life, and he never did such a thing.
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Postby UCUMAY » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:57 pm

Caecili wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:His theories he renounced... Not his faith.


Wait... what?
I've done a lot of research on Darwin's life, and he never did such a thing.

They say he renounced it on his death bed. That's hard to prove one way or the other though...
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:57 pm

I held that belief because I was raised to hold that belief. But, after some time they way the pastors attempt to scare you into continuing that belief gets to you, and after awhile fear was the only thing keeping me in it.

A desire to rid myself of that fear was what prompted my abandoning that mindset. I've since become a braver, more intelligent person for it, in my opinion.
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Postby Bum Venit Grata » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:58 pm

Kubra wrote:
Bum Venit Grata wrote:

no...the point is that the Christian church is anti-Darwinist
It's not like Christianity is the only religion.




yes, but a majority of the US (I live in NJ) is very Christian or similar so I was receiving a lot of pressure from them as well as muslims and mormons etc.
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Postby Caecili » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:58 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Caecili wrote:
Wait... what?
I've done a lot of research on Darwin's life, and he never did such a thing.

They say he renounced it on his death bed. That's hard to prove one way or the other though...


I can assure you that's completely false.
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Postby Third Mexican Empire » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:59 pm

I was a theist because I honestly knew nothing else. Now I'm an agnostic deist, and I still accept the belief of a God, just not a Christian God.
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Postby Lordieth » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:59 pm

I don't think I was ever a theist. Even when I was old enough to understand what religion was I could differentiate story from life. I'm an apathetic agnostic and happy with it.
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