Creationism Vs. Evolution

[Mosasauria]

Precisely.

You know what we need to teach?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... onceptions

It will solve all the world's problems. It will solve all wars and future conflict.

Definitely.

[The Corparation]

Precisely.

You know what we need to teach?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... onceptions

It will solve all the world's problems. It will solve all wars and future conflict.

Its funny I actually knew a lot of those.

[Kyraina]

You know what we need to teach?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... onceptions

It will solve all the world's problems. It will solve all wars and future conflict.

Its funny I actually knew a lot of those.

it would never work because the way the human mind works and the way people agree and disagree on stuff i'm sorry to say that there was always has been and always will be war in human life

[Farnhamia]

Its funny I actually knew a lot of those.

it would never work because the way the human mind works and the way people agree and disagree on stuff i'm sorry to say that there was always has been and always will be war in human life

People who think so can have a large island or some place away from the rest of us, where they can have all the wars they like.

[Ceannairceach]

Its funny I actually knew a lot of those.

it would never work because the way the human mind works and the way people agree and disagree on stuff i'm sorry to say that there was always has been and always will be war in human life

Disagreeing on something does not make it less true.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

it would never work because the way the human mind works and the way people agree and disagree on stuff i'm sorry to say that there was always has been and always will be war in human life

Disagreeing on something does not make it less true.

But it does make it more violent.

[Farnhamia]

Disagreeing on something does not make it less true.

But it does make it more violent.

I disagree. *brandishes mace*

[The Murtunian Tribes]

But it does make it more violent.

I disagree. *brandishes mace*

*Brandishes AA-12.

[Farnhamia]

I disagree. *brandishes mace*

*Brandishes AA-12.

*pushes Kyraina out in front of me*

[The Murtunian Tribes]

*Brandishes AA-12.

*pushes Kyraina out in front of me*

Ooohh...sorry Kyraina, didn't mean to liberate your torso from your waist.

[Farnhamia]

*pushes Kyraina out in front of me*

Ooohh...sorry Kyraina, didn't mean to liberate your torso from your waist.

Maybe we should talk about this. *walks around Kyraina*

[Myrensis]

There's nothing to choose between. Evolution is science, based on evidence. Creationism is mythology based on faith. You can't equate the two.

And of course you are wrong. Evolution is merely a theory like Creationism, but yeah so much for Freedom of Choice in our nation. Let's just shove one side of the theoretical science down the peoples throats without giving them a choice.

Astrology is a theory too, should we teach it alongside Astronomy? After all, this is America, people should have the Freedom of Choice to decide whether they want to learn about orbital mechanics or the influence of Jupiter on their love lives.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

And of course you are wrong. Evolution is merely a theory like Creationism, but yeah so much for Freedom of Choice in our nation. Let's just shove one side of the theoretical science down the peoples throats without giving them a choice.

Astrology is a theory too, should we teach it alongside Astronomy? After all, this is America, people should have the Freedom of Choice to decide whether they want to learn about orbital mechanics or the influence of Jupiter on their love lives.

Is astrology actually a theorey, or is it a theory like creationsism is a theory? As in it's not even close to being one.

Ooohh...sorry Kyraina, didn't mean to liberate your torso from your waist.

Maybe we should talk about this. *walks around Kyraina*

Yea, you agree with me or I can tear you pieces with automatic shotgun fire.

[Myrensis]

Is astrology actually a theorey, or is it a theory like creationsism is a theory? As in it's not even close to being one.

The latter. Not that it's likely to get through to them, but I was just trying to highlight the absurdity of the claim that it's only "fair" to teach all "theories" equally.

[Bottle]

And of course you are wrong. Evolution is merely a theory like Creationism, but yeah so much for Freedom of Choice in our nation. Let's just shove one side of the theoretical science down the peoples throats without giving them a choice.

And had you bothered to read the topic, you would have known the difference between scientific theory and daily life theory, why the theory of evolution qualifies and creationism does not, as well as that crerationism is almost certainly not what you think it is.

But hey. That would have required you to make an effort.

Golly gee, I wonder if he'll scurry away without any further responses or any effort to address the piles of legitimate criticisms of his bullshit statements.

Wait, no, "I wonder if" wasn't the phrase I was looking for. It should have been "Without any doubt whatsoever."

[The Alma Mater]

And had you bothered to read the topic, you would have known the difference between scientific theory and daily life theory, why the theory of evolution qualifies and creationism does not, as well as that crerationism is almost certainly not what you think it is.

But hey. That would have required you to make an effort.

Golly gee, I wonder if he'll scurry away without any further responses or any effort to address the piles of legitimate criticisms of his bullshit statements.

Wait, no, "I wonder if" wasn't the phrase I was looking for. It should have been "Without any doubt whatsoever."

They ahve 106 posts. Slightly more than the average drive-by creationist, so I actually have high hopes he WILL return... and will be willing to learn

[Bottle]

Golly gee, I wonder if he'll scurry away without any further responses or any effort to address the piles of legitimate criticisms of his bullshit statements.

Wait, no, "I wonder if" wasn't the phrase I was looking for. It should have been "Without any doubt whatsoever."

They ahve 106 posts. Slightly more than the average drive-by creationist, so I actually have high hopes he WILL return... and will be willing to learn

Best of luck with that. As always, I'd love to be proven wrong, but I've been arguing against Creationists for upwards of a decade so far and not a single one has ever proven me wrong on this count. Not a single one has ever had the ability or inclination to even TRY to answer my oft-asked questions. If I ever meet a single Creationist who doesn't act like a willfully ignorant coward, I will be only too happy to revise my opinions of them.

[F1-Insanity]

There's nothing to choose between. Evolution is science, based on evidence. Creationism is mythology based on faith. You can't equate the two.

And of course you are wrong. Evolution is merely a theory like Creationism, but yeah so much for Freedom of Choice in our nation. Let's just shove one side of the theoretical science down the peoples throats without giving them a choice.

The stork theory of human reproduction should be given equal time as the sex theory.

'Intelligent falling' should be given equal time with theory of gravity.
/sarc

Evolution may be a theory, but supported by countless millions of in the fossil record. Creationism is total BS made up and not supported by even the tiniest shred of the least conclusive evidence. There is no equivalency here.

[Sociobiology]

Here I quote my great and very smart friend: Greg Guevara
"I do think everyone should make their own choices, but you should decide what God means to you yourself, not just blindly deny everything that you don't get. Religion isn't stupid, and it isn't blind, but I know a lot of people who stop believing in God because of the people that worship God and not because of God itself. I see where you're coming from: We're scared without knowledge so you might think we created religions. But to believe in God is hard because you need to put you're absolute, intelligent and well thought out trust into something you can't see but know is there. And I love guys, to the extent a straight Christian guy can. In a friend way, Santi. In a friend way."
"Yep, I believe we evolved. But I also believe in creation. It's called "the compromise theory", and it just gets both sides angry. But I believe God directly created the big bang,which indirectly created everything else. I mean think about it. "What created us?" "The big bang" "What created the big bang" "Anti matter and matter colliding" "What created the anti matter and matter?" "Uh..." With God there's no problem like that. God just is. He was there, is there and always will be there. I don't believe everything in the bible, because no religion is perfect, but as our beliefs evolve, we get closer to perfection, and closer to God."
"Belief in God is a boat. The stronger your belief is, the bigger your boat is. Your life will run into some choppy waters, and when it does your boat will help you handle it. Hell, that might be the same for Atheism, for all I know! Anyways... life is exactly what you make of it. If you think the world sucks, the world will suck for you. If you think it's harsh it's harsh. But for me the world is amazing, a beautiful pearl in a sea of darkness. Yes, I'm getting poetic here, but it's hard not to be when describing something so beautiful. For me life is amazing and happy, and when it tries to ruin my day, my boat handles it. Because that's what I think about life, and I love everything about it."
- Greg Guevara

also called I really don't want to trust the scientists but vaccines and airplanes are just so gosh darn effective.

"In catholisism we have an entire religion based on a woman who really stuck to her story"
— Greg Giraldo

[Sociobiology]

Anyways, evolution can't be a law because it can't be expressed mathematically. Simple as that. Doesn't mean that it isn't an irrevocable fact.

Can't be expressed mathematically YET

population genetics (the meat and potatoes of evolution) CAN be, and IS expressed mathematically, in fact a lot of biology is expressed mathematically. but unlike physics you dont need math to explain it to the layman so it rarely gets used in common media.
heck cladistics the entire field of predicting interrelationship(common ancestry) in living things is entirely mathematical.

[Coccygia]

'Intelligent falling' should be given equal time with theory of gravity.
/sarc

"Intelligent falling" can explain what the theory of gravity cannot: why Wile E. Coyote doesn't fall until he looks down and realizes he standing in midair.

[Rambhutan]

We should remember that Christians aren't the only creationists, it is also the default position in Islam. This has lead to death threats against an Imam who has said that evolution is not incompatible with the Koran.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... ution.html

[Michael VII]

Same with evolution. It's been proven multiple times and not proven to be wrong.
Anyways, evolution can't be a law because it can't be expressed mathematically. Simple as that. Doesn't mean that it isn't an irrevocable fact.

Actually evolution can't be a law because Theory is now the highest possible honour a scientific hypothesis can reach. They stopped using the term law a few centuries ago. The same reason why the big bang theory is only at theory even though the scientific community believes it as fact. THAT is what makes something a law.

[Senestrum]

There's nothing to choose between. Evolution is science, based on evidence. Creationism is mythology based on faith. You can't equate the two.

And of course you are wrong. Evolution is merely a theory like Creationism, but yeah so much for Freedom of Choice in our nation. Let's just shove one side of the theoretical science down the peoples throats without giving them a choice.

What you think a theory is and what a theory actually is are two utterly different things.

In science, a theory is an explanation of observed fact. Labeling something a theory is actually a great honor, because it means that explanation (and predictions based on that explanation) has/have been verified. In the case of Evolution Through Natural Selection, the theory is explaining the observed fact that species change over time.

Creationism is not a theory. It is a hypothesis, and not one with any evidence to its name.

[Risottia]

In science, a theory is an explanation of observed fact.

As suggested by the original Greek term "θεωρία" (theorìa) meaning "onlook, observation". "Theorìa" translates in Latin as "speculatio", related to "speculum" (mirror), "spectari" (to look at something), and "species" (aspect).