US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

[Altergo]

Retars

[Phenia]

I think it's easy to get lost in terms of the big picture and concentrate on lootings of museums, destruction of property and historical artifacts. All very bad, of course, but why does no one seem to want to talk about the hundreds of thousands of innocent lives snuffed out by US action? Even those anti-war folks who talk about lives lost almost always prefer to talk about American soldiers who've died.

The civilian death toll is the elephant in the living room.

Because Americans don't care about nonAmericans. Duh.

I think it has more to do with cognitive dissonance. Most people at the time of the invasion were vocal supporters of it. Only later, with time and reason, did they change their opinion. Now they'd like to forget that it was ever any different.

[Snowy Egrets]

I personally think this a perfect analogy regarding our policies in Iraq.

We f*cked 'em both up.

And when I say "we," I really mean "you." I'm just an innocent immigrant.

[Hawaii And Midway]

I still call it anti-war propoganda. That site was already desecrated before we got there.

[Greed and Death]

Like to point out they didn't damage the wonder.
They damaged the site of a former wonder.
US troops are 1000's of years to late to damage the hanging gardens themselves.

[Sdaeriji]

I still call it anti-war propoganda. That site was already desecrated before we got there.

So, if some guy comes by and busts one of your windows, then I come and smash a couple more, am I not culpable because the other guy did damage first?

Even the ruins of ancient cities have vast archealogical value.

[Khodoristan]

You know I don't favor the Iraq war, but the Army's claim that they set up their base at that site specifically to protect it makes me ask; how much damage would have been done to the site if they weren't there?

A lot. If it wasnt for the US, itd be long looted by now. Like 2003 looted.

[Hawaii And Midway]

No, if my house is burned to the ground and then sits for thousands of years, I do not care if someone builds a temporary base over where it once stood.

[Yootopia]

Retars

Oh the ironing.

[L3 Communications]

It was destroyed long before we were there...

[Penguennia]

Okay, to get the gist of what stinking CNN said, the US military destroyed a rebuilt model of an ancient city home to a previously destroyed wonder we only know existed from a picture of it on a temple wall some where in Greece (I think). Oh, yeah, and they also are donating almost a million dollars to fix the damages to the thing.
To sum up what I think of CNN-

[Brogavia]

What they damaged was stuff rebuild in the 80s. The ruins were already buried by Saddam when he "rebuilt" it.

Its like someone damaged a tourist trap and someone claims its acient ruins.

[Sanctus-Terra]

Now, it may just be the drinks talking, but I'm pretty sure the only remaining ancient wonder of the world is that Ga-...those pyramids in Egypt. Hanging Gardens were destroyed long ago by a...Cyrus?

[Greed and Death]

And then they payed for the damage.

While we are out it Germany owes money to Greece for the Parthenon, Italy owes money to Egypt for when the Roman's looted the tombs.

The UK, France, USA, Germany, Austria, and most other nations owe reperations to Egypt as well for all the damage that their archeologists caused.

Spain owes Mexico Reperations for the destruction and looting of BILLIONS worth of damage they caused to historical sites via looting and settling.

The list could go on and on and on. Yes damage was done, the USA even admits it. They gave $800,000 toward restoration; thats something that no other nation who has destroyed or damaged an historic site has done in my recollection; end of story as far as I am concerned.

You failed to mention France and the Great Sphinx. (Artillery practice.)

The nose was destroyed by Sa'im al-Dahr in 1378 AD. Long before the French had ever got there.
The account blaming Napoleon was something made up Lewis Farrakhan.

[Hawaii And Midway]

Its all to put us against the war.

[The South Islands]

Its all to put us against the war.

Newsflash: Smart people are already against the war. They have been since 2001!

[New Chalcedon]

THE HANGING GARDENS?!?!?!?!? WTF?

Seriously, DO YOUR RESEARCH, CNN!

The Hanging Gardens were destroyed when Babylon was - well over a thousand years ago - if they ever existed in the first place. While archaeological importance is a point, the fact of the matter is that the UN looks - constantly and without slip-ups - for any excuse, no matter how half-assed, to attack the US and appease the Arabs. This is just more of the same, sloppily reported by the leading "America is bad" news outlet.

It really seems to me that as far as the UN is concenred, they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. If they'd not set up there, the UN would have wagged its notably ineffectual finger at the US and said, "Tsk tsk. You should have protected such an invaluable site." Now that they did, the UN is saying, "Tsk tsk. You were careless." I didn't notice UNESCO offering to take control of the site anytime in the last 6 years. Of course they wouldn't - that would mean that they'd actually have to *do* something instead of sitting back and hypcritically pontificting about those who do. Not to mention that they have, from their inception, been a vehicle to attack the United States (and this was in 1948!).

I find it interesting that the article notes in one sentence at the very bottom that extensive damage had already been done by encroaching agriculture and development over the last few centuries. As in, the one part of the UN report which noted that not all the blame was America's got conveniently neglected and was alsmost forgotten entirely.

[Brogavia]

Its all to put us against the war.

Newsflash: Smart people are already against the war. They have been since 2001!

Newsflash. There was no war with Iraq in 2001!

Only if you define "smart" people as people who think like you do.

[Sanctus-Terra]

Its all to put us against the war.

Newsflash: Smart people are already against the war. They have been since 2001!

Newsflash. There was no war with Iraq in 2001!

Only if you define "smart" people as people who think like you do.

Think he is counting Afghanistan as well, which started in 2001.

[The South Islands]

Newsflash. There was no war with Iraq in 2001!

Only if you define "smart" people as people who think like you do.

Think he is counting Afghanistan as well, which started in 2001.

winRAR

[Hawaii And Midway]

Its a seperate war and an intelligent person could see that. There is still good intent in what we've done in Iraq even if Americans are unwilling to pay the bill and the lives it cost. So don't say what smart people think as your not the authority over others' intelligence and in no position to stereotype.

[Brogavia]

Think he is counting Afghanistan as well, which started in 2001.

Whats wrong with the war in Afghanistan? Attacking people who attack us! How evil of us!

Iraq, like it or not was nessecary. Maybe not today, but in the near future. Creating a stable oil rich country in the middle east that is friendly to us, and will give us first rights to its oil, would be vital.

Just watch, the oil rich parts of the Middle East slowly will be taking sides between America, and China.

I'll admit 100% it was for oil. And I support that. Its not very nice, but whats nessecary is not always nice..

[The South Islands]

*is not going to derail thread any more then it already is*

I can conclude that the US Army, again, acted irresponsibly and damaged a three thousand year old archeological site. But its not totally unexpected. After all, the Army isn't trained to respect historical artifacts.

[Brogavia]

*is not going to derail thread any more then it already is*

I can conclude that the US Army, again, acted irresponsibly and damaged a three thousand year old archeological site. But its not totally unexpected. After all, the Army isn't trained to respect historical artifacts.

You mean damaged a tourist trap?

Almost everything was replicas built by Saddam to attract tourists. Its like damaging one of those fake oldwest towns.

[The Naacal]

The US Army did help protect the Gate of Nergal at the ruins of Nineveh though.