NATION

PASSWORD

US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Dakini
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23085
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Dakini » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:43 pm

greed and death wrote:Atlantis is lost perhaps it is lost because it is in the wrong ocean.
and the US didn't give the Bikini atoll natives Atlantis back.

No, but it compensated them for the extreme health problems associated with the nuclear testing.

User avatar
The South Islands
Diplomat
 
Posts: 983
Founded: Apr 02, 2009
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby The South Islands » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:48 pm

Dakini wrote:
greed and death wrote:Atlantis is lost perhaps it is lost because it is in the wrong ocean.
and the US didn't give the Bikini atoll natives Atlantis back.

No, but it compensated them for the extreme health problems associated with the nuclear testing.


Liberal lies. A little radiation never hurt anyone. Ever.

Anything else is liberal canadian communist socialist conspiracy
IL Ruffino: The wind flows / The hair on TSI's ass glides as if airborn / Smell the freshly cut grass
Gravlen: If I can blame you? Of course I can! I mean, you're like a walking cathalyst for homosexuality, driving otherwise straight men to write haikus about your ass hair...

So it's a wonder that your presence alone in any thread don't derail them and lead to debates about world leaders and homoerotic desires.


Sarkhaan: You. Put your pants back on.

User avatar
Dakini
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23085
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Dakini » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:18 pm

The South Islands wrote:
Dakini wrote:
greed and death wrote:Atlantis is lost perhaps it is lost because it is in the wrong ocean.
and the US didn't give the Bikini atoll natives Atlantis back.

No, but it compensated them for the extreme health problems associated with the nuclear testing.


Liberal lies. A little radiation never hurt anyone. Ever.

Anything else is liberal canadian communist socialist conspiracy

Oooo... communist and socialist? Is that like double-plus ungood?

User avatar
Sanctus-Terra
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 440
Founded: Mar 26, 2009
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Sanctus-Terra » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:33 pm

United Russian State wrote:America :palm:


Seriously, four pages? I expected you in this thread when it was in page 2. You need to work faster, my Russian friend.
Looky at me, I'm back.

User avatar
Intestinal fluids
Diplomat
 
Posts: 851
Founded: Apr 18, 2006
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Intestinal fluids » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:41 pm

Lets not forget "Taliban-destroyed Buddhas may never be restored"


"At the foot of cliffs in central Afghanistan, about 5,000 fragments of what were once among the world's great artistic and religious treasures, the Buddhas of Bamiyan, sit in rudimentary shelters.

Their destruction by the Taliban in March 2001 was an act of cultural vandalism on a spectacular scale. The two tallest standing Buddhas in the world -- which had stood as silent sentinels over the snow-capped valley of Bamiyan for more than 1,500 years -- were reduced to mere rubble."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

User avatar
Dakini
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23085
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Dakini » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:43 pm

Intestinal fluids wrote:Lets not forget "Taliban-destroyed Buddhas may never be restored"


"At the foot of cliffs in central Afghanistan, about 5,000 fragments of what were once among the world's great artistic and religious treasures, the Buddhas of Bamiyan, sit in rudimentary shelters.

Their destruction by the Taliban in March 2001 was an act of cultural vandalism on a spectacular scale. The two tallest standing Buddhas in the world -- which had stood as silent sentinels over the snow-capped valley of Bamiyan for more than 1,500 years -- were reduced to mere rubble."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

So if the Taliban did it on purpose, it's alright for the US to do it by accident through neglect?

User avatar
Nadkor
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12114
Founded: Jan 22, 2004
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Nadkor » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:44 pm

Intestinal fluids wrote:Lets not forget "Taliban-destroyed Buddhas may never be restored"


"At the foot of cliffs in central Afghanistan, about 5,000 fragments of what were once among the world's great artistic and religious treasures, the Buddhas of Bamiyan, sit in rudimentary shelters.

Their destruction by the Taliban in March 2001 was an act of cultural vandalism on a spectacular scale. The two tallest standing Buddhas in the world -- which had stood as silent sentinels over the snow-capped valley of Bamiyan for more than 1,500 years -- were reduced to mere rubble."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html



"But...but....the Taliban did it too!"

Christ.
economic left/right: -7.38, social libertarian/authoritarian: -7.59
thekidswhopoptodaywillrocktomorrow

I think we need more post-coital and less post-rock
Feels like the build-up takes forever but you never get me off

User avatar
Grays Harbor
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18566
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:45 pm

But that was the Taliban. What they did was ok. Its just what Europe and the US do that is evil. :roll:
Everything you know about me is wrong. Or a rumor. Something like that.

Not Ta'veren

User avatar
Conserative Morality
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 76676
Founded: Aug 24, 2007
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:45 pm

Dakini wrote:So if the Taliban did it on purpose, it's alright for the US to do it by accident through neglect?

Do what? Honestly, there's no proof that those were the hanging gardens, there's no proof that the hanging gardens even existed!
On the hate train. Choo choo, bitches. Bi-Polar. Proud Crypto-Fascist and Turbo Progressive. Dirty Étatist. Lowly Humanities Major. NSG's Best Liberal.
Caesar and Imperator of RWDT
Got a blog up again. || An NS Writing Discussion

User avatar
Milks Empire
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21069
Founded: Aug 02, 2008
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Milks Empire » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:46 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:But that was the Taliban. What they did was ok. Its just what Europe and the US do that is evil. :roll:

Frankly, there's nothing OK about either one of those actions.

User avatar
Dakini
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23085
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Dakini » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:47 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:But that was the Taliban. What they did was ok. Its just what Europe and the US do that is evil. :roll:

No, when the Taliban did it, it was pretty bad.

User avatar
Grays Harbor
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18566
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:48 pm

Dakini wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:But that was the Taliban. What they did was ok. Its just what Europe and the US do that is evil. :roll:

No, when the Taliban did it, it was pretty bad.


Sarcasm, people. SARcasm.
Everything you know about me is wrong. Or a rumor. Something like that.

Not Ta'veren

User avatar
Dakini
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23085
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Dakini » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:51 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Dakini wrote:So if the Taliban did it on purpose, it's alright for the US to do it by accident through neglect?

Do what? Honestly, there's no proof that those were the hanging gardens, there's no proof that the hanging gardens even existed!

No, but they did damage cultural artifacts. Whether or not it's the hanging gardens or not, there were definitely very old things (bricks, roads etc) which were damaged by the US army setting up shop. They could have done this in a way that's sensitive to the cultural and historical importance of the region, but they didn't.

User avatar
Conserative Morality
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 76676
Founded: Aug 24, 2007
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:55 pm

Dakini wrote:No, but they did damage cultural artifacts. Whether or not it's the hanging gardens or not, there were definitely very old things (bricks, roads etc) which were damaged by the US army setting up shop. They could have done this in a way that's sensitive to the cultural and historical importance of the region, but they didn't.

The United States has agreed to pay $800,000 to help rehabilitate the Babylon site, an Iraqi official said.

Honestly, there's not much more that can be done (Except giving more money as compensation), and I prefer that the facts were given as such, not baseless speculation about what the site was in order to stir up more animosity.
On the hate train. Choo choo, bitches. Bi-Polar. Proud Crypto-Fascist and Turbo Progressive. Dirty Étatist. Lowly Humanities Major. NSG's Best Liberal.
Caesar and Imperator of RWDT
Got a blog up again. || An NS Writing Discussion

User avatar
Kusatsu
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 371
Founded: May 29, 2009
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Kusatsu » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:01 pm

The U.S. military did major damage to the site of one of the wonders of the ancient world while converting it into a base, the United Nations said in a new report.


lol, real life is becoming like a Command and Conquer game, like when the United States made its final stand against the Russians on Liberty Island right under the Statue of Liberty. :lol:

What's next, converting the Kremlin into a bunker? Or maybe we can have each presidents' face on Mount Rushmore shoot lasers from their eyes.
Proud Member of the Corporate Fascist Party
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10701&start=0

User avatar
The South Islands
Diplomat
 
Posts: 983
Founded: Apr 02, 2009
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby The South Islands » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:05 pm

Kusatsu wrote:
What's next, converting the Kremlin into a bunker? Or maybe we can have each presidents' face on Mount Rushmore shoot lasers from their eyes.

That would be win on so many levels.
IL Ruffino: The wind flows / The hair on TSI's ass glides as if airborn / Smell the freshly cut grass
Gravlen: If I can blame you? Of course I can! I mean, you're like a walking cathalyst for homosexuality, driving otherwise straight men to write haikus about your ass hair...

So it's a wonder that your presence alone in any thread don't derail them and lead to debates about world leaders and homoerotic desires.


Sarkhaan: You. Put your pants back on.

User avatar
Dakini
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23085
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Dakini » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:25 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Dakini wrote:No, but they did damage cultural artifacts. Whether or not it's the hanging gardens or not, there were definitely very old things (bricks, roads etc) which were damaged by the US army setting up shop. They could have done this in a way that's sensitive to the cultural and historical importance of the region, but they didn't.

The United States has agreed to pay $800,000 to help rehabilitate the Babylon site, an Iraqi official said.

Honestly, there's not much more that can be done (Except giving more money as compensation), and I prefer that the facts were given as such, not baseless speculation about what the site was in order to stir up more animosity.

Throwing money at it doesn't fix lost history... though it may help some restoration attempts.

User avatar
Brogavia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5271
Founded: Sep 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Brogavia » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:34 pm

Kusatsu wrote:What's next, converting the Kremlin into a bunker?


History fail.

The Kremlin is pretty much just a huge fort in downtown Moscow. Not the building with all the domed towers. So it is already a bunker.
Playing NS since Jan of 2006

1010102, Unjustly Deleted

Agent of the Timegate, if you expose me I'll kill you

User avatar
Kusatsu
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 371
Founded: May 29, 2009
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Kusatsu » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:43 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Kusatsu wrote:What's next, converting the Kremlin into a bunker?


History fail.

The Kremlin is pretty much just a huge fort in downtown Moscow. Not the building with all the domed towers. So it is already a bunker.


Do they have tesla coil towers around it, zapping poor psionic flying Japanese schoolgirls into piles of bones and dust? No, no they don't.


The South Islands wrote:
Kusatsu wrote:
What's next, converting the Kremlin into a bunker? Or maybe we can have each presidents' face on Mount Rushmore shoot lasers from their eyes.

That would be win on so many levels.


Wish granted:
Image
Last edited by Kusatsu on Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Proud Member of the Corporate Fascist Party
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10701&start=0

User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:28 pm

Marcuslandia wrote:You failed to mention France and the Great Sphinx. (Artillery practice.)


And you failed to note that that whole story is pure bullshit.
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀

User avatar
Muravyets
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12755
Founded: Aug 18, 2005
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Muravyets » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:46 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:But that was the Taliban. What they did was ok. Its just what Europe and the US do that is evil. :roll:

Uh, no. Read the rest of the thread, thanks.
Kick back at Cafe Muravyets
And check out my other RP, too. (Don't take others' word for it -- see for yourself. ;) )
I agree with Muravyets because she scares me. -- Verdigroth
However, I am still not the topic of this thread.

User avatar
Muravyets
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12755
Founded: Aug 18, 2005
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Muravyets » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:47 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Dakini wrote:So if the Taliban did it on purpose, it's alright for the US to do it by accident through neglect?

Do what? Honestly, there's no proof that those were the hanging gardens, there's no proof that the hanging gardens even existed!

And you also please read the thread. This was already addressed. There were/are original architectural remains and artifacts on that site, some of which were damaged. CNN's mangling of the UNESCO report, and your and other posters' further mangling of the CNN story, nothwithstanding.
Kick back at Cafe Muravyets
And check out my other RP, too. (Don't take others' word for it -- see for yourself. ;) )
I agree with Muravyets because she scares me. -- Verdigroth
However, I am still not the topic of this thread.

User avatar
Koamii Islands
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Aug 03, 2009
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Koamii Islands » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:23 pm

it was gone way before the army had a chance to touch it. why does anyone care? thats not an ancient wonder of the world. Im sure on that one.

User avatar
North Avayu
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1268
Founded: Mar 18, 2009
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby North Avayu » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:09 am

It's not important if any "wonders" were damaged. That's just bad PR CNN produced there. But fact is, a historical site was damaged by the Army setting their base there. This means possibly hundreds of important, small artifacts are lost and destroyed now. That's something you can't compensate for with millions of dollars. Wit the mopney you can restore the damaged buildings, but that's just what tourists visiting the site will see, not what is really important for our understanding of history.

User avatar
Buffett and Colbert
Post Czar
 
Posts: 32382
Founded: Oct 05, 2008
Ex-Nation

Re: US Army Damages Wonder of the Ancient World

Postby Buffett and Colbert » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:20 am

This makes me cringe and well up with anger. :evil: :evil:
If the knowledge isn't useful, you haven't found the lesson yet. ~Iniika
You-Gi-Owe wrote:If someone were to ask me about your online persona as a standard of your "date-ability", I'd rate you as "worth investigating further & passionate about beliefs". But, enough of the idle speculation on why you didn't score with the opposite gender.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:Clever, but your Jedi mind tricks don't work on me.

His Jedi mind tricks are insignificant compared to the power of Buffy's sex appeal.
Keronians wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:My law class took my virginity. And it was 100% consensual.

I accuse your precious law class of statutory rape.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Based Illinois, Dakran, Dimetrodon Empire, EuroStralia, Heavenly Assault, Hurtful Thoughts, Infected Mushroom, Kaztropol, Pasong Tirad, Ryemarch, Terminus Station, Vel Helios

Advertisement

Remove ads