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Postby The Ruivan Empire » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:49 am

ok this is only for those who are REALLY into star wars and know the expanded universe material.

My question revolves around the Yuuzhan Vong War (25 ABY-29 ABY)

now for those who dont know ABY stands for After the battle of Yavin, so 25 ABY means 25 years after the battle of yavin which resulted in the destruction of the first death star.


Ok, the War was a pan-Galactic conflict (meaning (i think) that it was a war between two galaxy's basically.) which lasted four years but was the most destructive conflict in the star wars galaxy's history. it killed about 365 trillion sentient beings and ravaged countless worlds. the vong had managed to take about half the galaxy including Coruscant.

now Palpatine had was aware of the coming invasion of the Vong and that threat was one of the primary reasons for the establishment of the Galactic empire and the massive military buildup of the Imperial Navy and army for the coming war. but as we now know the rebels defeated the Empire and replaced it with the new republic.

the question is this. Do you think that if the Empire had met the Vongs invasion that the Vong would have driven so far into the galaxy or would the Empire have defeated them easily?

i think that the empire would have defeated the invasion not easily but far sooner than the republic did.
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Postby Revolutopia » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:56 am

The ruivan Empire wrote:ok this is only for those who are REALLY into star wars and know the expanded universe material.

My question revolves around the Yuuzhan Vong War (25 ABY-29 ABY)

now for those who dont know ABY stands for After the battle of Yavin, so 25 ABY means 25 years after the battle of yavin which resulted in the destruction of the first death star.


Ok, the War was a pan-Galactic conflict (meaning (i think) that it was a war between two galaxy's basically.) which lasted four years but was the most destructive conflict in the star wars galaxy's history. it killed about 365 trillion sentient beings and ravaged countless worlds. the vong had managed to take about half the galaxy including Coruscant.

now Palpatine had was aware of the coming invasion of the Vong and that threat was one of the primary reasons for the establishment of the Galactic empire and the massive military buildup of the Imperial Navy and army for the coming war. but as we now know the rebels defeated the Empire and replaced it with the new republic.

the question is this. Do you think that if the Empire had met the Vongs invasion that the Vong would have driven so far into the galaxy or would the Empire have defeated them easily?

i think that the empire would have defeated the invasion not easily but far sooner than the republic did.


Saying the Emperor really didn't care about civilians the war would be more bloody as he would be willing sacrifices millions of his people for strategic gain. While, as being willing to use various super weapons to destory vong ships and territories. Thus, while more bloody it would probably been shorter in the long run as it would be two genocidal manics attacking each other.
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Postby Arkinesia » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:03 am

If the Expanded Universe is what interests you, then you aren't into Star Wars.

Never mind the fact that Palpatine died in like 5 ABY.
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:25 am

Had the Empire remained in place, I'm not sure. I would say their military, being far far larger at it's height than the Rebel/New Republic. I would think, with brilliant military minds like Thrawn on their side and the massive resources at their disposal the Vong very well might have been crushed before they could make a beachhead, then the Emperor would have most likely followed them to wherever the hell they came from and blew it up with the Death Star.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:03 am

I don't remember Reagan saying anything like that during the 80s...

The what war, now? Damn, so Reagan WASN'T off his nut when he talked of the Star Wars project...

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Postby Vulcan Colony of IDIC » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:13 am

I thought the Yuuzhan Vong did have a decided advantage to the GFFA inhabitants. The New Republic had Jedi which helped a bit, but the Empire would not have. What I don't know is why the Yuuzhan Vong waited so long before attacking for. They clearly had an opportunity to attack in the Empire's time.

Personally, I don't like Star Wars EU. It's very disorganized and lolwhat'd by every so and so, unlike the definite fanfic-canon border in other universes, like Star Trek.

I think the Yuuzhan Vong were intended at a THE END by their author, who was apparently bored of everything.
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Postby The Atlantean Menace » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:14 am

I don't think so. By the time the Vong invaded, the New Republic had about as many resources available as the Empire would've. Plus the Republic had a lot more force-sensitive fighter pilots, and I assume force-sensitivity would give you a leg up even though the Vong couldn't be sensed by the force (I.E., the enhanced reflexes and minor precognition provided by force sensitivity would probably still help.)

I mean, wasn't EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of Rogue Squadron force-sensitive to some extent? Plus Jedi are so skilled in combat that having a lot more of them is helpful even if they can't use the full extent of their powers.

Vulcan Colony of IDIC wrote:I thought the Yuuzhan Vong did have a decided advantage to the GFFA inhabitants. The New Republic had Jedi which helped a bit, but the Empire would not have. What I don't know is why the Yuuzhan Vong waited so long before attacking for. They clearly had an opportunity to attack in the Empire's time.

Personally, I don't like Star Wars EU. It's very disorganized and lolwhat'd by every so and so, unlike the definite fanfic-canon border in other universes, like Star Trek.

I think the Yuuzhan Vong were intended at a THE END by their author, who was apparently bored of everything.


When you think about it, the most reasonable time for the Vong to attack would've been right after the empire fell. But that'd probably be too depressing for the Star Wars continuum.

Now, here's a question: As those of us familiar with the Expanded Universe (Or who read Wookiepedia) know, IG-88 had actually taken control of the Death Star II when it was destroyed by the rebels, and he was going to use it to annihilate all biological life. Do you think IG-88 would've faired better against the Vong?
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Postby Vectrova » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:20 am

The Atlantean Menace wrote:I don't think so. By the time the Vong invaded, the New Republic had about as many resources available as the Empire would've. Plus the Republic had a lot more force-sensitive fighter pilots, and I assume force-sensitivity would give you a leg up even though the Vong couldn't be sensed by the force (I.E., the enhanced reflexes and minor precognition provided by force sensitivity would probably still help.)

I mean, wasn't EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of Rogue Squadron force-sensitive to some extent? Plus Jedi are so skilled in combat that having a lot more of them is helpful even if they can't use the full extent of their powers.


Force sensitive pilots, maybe, but the Emperor had enormous vaults housing more credits than the Republic could ever muster and the willingness to blow it on the Empire's bloated, run-away military budget no matter what. Fact is that, once the Empire had things like TIE-Defenders mass-produced over TIE-Fighters, the Empire would've been unstoppable.

But then the Rebels screwed it all up. :roll:
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Postby Hospitalopia » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:22 am

Man this takes me back. Classic SW board material from when the NJO was in full swing 6-7 years ago, and everyone was still pissed about
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What's funny is that Troy Denning basically answered the question in Destiny's Way, and I like his answer best:

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Postby Vectrova » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:25 am

Except the Vong had no force sensitives and likely would've learned from their Death Star mistake. Sure, they'd screw up, but I'd imagine a 'no expenses spared, they must die' construction policy lends itself towards invincibility eventually.
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