Obama isn't doing bad

[Greater Americania]

Surprise surprise, me, Hairless Kitten created a posting about Obama.

The reason why I wrote it is about the amusing news that some American media is mad because lately Obama drunk a beer with that black professor and that white policeman.

The reason why the media is mad? Well, the beer is 'Belgian'.

If the media is complaining about such things, if this is Obama his worst sin then he's doing pretty well.

After all, what's next? He can't eat no Chinese food anymore? And what about Champagne? French Fries? Spaghetti?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/29 ... 6417.shtml
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/lager- ... ted-voice/

They're railing him for this because the conservative media uses everything it can to make Obama look bad and "un-American". On the contrary, I assert that Obama is doing horrible because of his bailout bills and his healthcare plans. These things are disasters for the American national debt. One of the main reasons I opposed Bush was because he did the exact same thing to the debt. By the end of his second term, the national debt was at a record breaking 10 trillion dollars. Obama's just picking up the legacy which makes him just as bad in my eyes.

[CIB EMPIRE]

Surprise surprise, me, Hairless Kitten created a posting about Obama.

The reason why I wrote it is about the amusing news that some American media is mad because lately Obama drunk a beer with that black professor and that white policeman.

The reason why the media is mad? Well, the beer is 'Belgian'.

If the media is complaining about such things, if this is Obama his worst sin then he's doing pretty well.

After all, what's next? He can't eat no Chinese food anymore? And what about Champagne? French Fries? Spaghetti?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/29 ... 6417.shtml
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/lager- ... ted-voice/

They're railing him for this because the conservative media uses everything it can to make Obama look bad and "un-American". On the contrary, I assert that Obama is doing horrible because of his bailout bills and his healthcare plans. These things are disasters for the American national debt. One of the main reasons I opposed Bush was because he did the exact same thing to the debt. By the end of his second term, the national debt was at a record breaking 10 trillion dollars. Obama's just picking up the legacy which makes him just as bad in my eyes.

[CIB EMPIRE]

Obama approved with bush bailout -FACT

True. That's what you get with a centrist. HOWEVER.

Obama own stimulus plan failed just as much as bushes- FACT

That has yet to be seen, since not all of the funds have been paid and yet we're already getting early indicators that recovery is in progress.

Obama job is not to pass communist executive orders and bailouts- FACT

That didn't stop the Conservatives' Favorite Son, George W. Bush. And I'd like to hear precisely which executive orders and bailouts Obama has been passing.

The bailouts are against the USA market system- FACT

Really? Bailouts are against the free market system, which Libertarians always take pains to assure me has never been part of the USA market system.

Obama borrowed money from china to fund illegal undeclared war in Afghanistan- FACT

The war that Bush started and never bothered to finish? The one that is now Obama's responsibility to bring to an end?

Obama is just as bad as bush- FACT

You have yet to establish this. He's been as bad about some things, most notably states secrets and protecting corrupt politicians from prosecution, but about everything else he's taken steps the nation sorely needed for recovery.

please, i hate obama and bush so please dont keep going back and forth between them. you know obamas doing bad stop defending him

[Phenia]

please, i hate obama and bush so please dont keep going back and forth between them. you know obamas doing bad stop defending him

You're the one who stated that 'Obama is just as bad as Bush.' So, you know, maybe that's why people are contesting your claim. Because you made it.

And the "you know I'm right" bit is old. Get new. New better than old.

[Luporum]

Guy hasn't been in office for one year an you say he's doing poorly. Man, what's that word called when you judge someone unfairly based on your own agendas? Ah it's on the tip of my tongue.

[Treznor]

please, i hate obama and bush so please dont keep going back and forth between them. you know obamas doing bad stop defending him

I'm addressing each of your complaints as you listed them. With one exception, none of them had any basis in fact. Most of them were just part of the standard Limbaugh/Hannity talking points.

You don't have any reasons for hating Obama, you just do, just like you were told to. That doesn't constitute a reasonable argument or a reason to urge a change in the policies of the Obama administration. I have my own reasons for disagreeing with certain Obama administration policies, just as I have my reasons for disagreeing with just about every Bush administration policies. But you won't hear me saying that Obama or Bush are bad just because I don't like them. That produces nothing but blind partisanship.

[CIB EMPIRE]

please, i hate obama and bush so please dont keep going back and forth between them. you know obamas doing bad stop defending him

I'm addressing each of your complaints as you listed them. With one exception, none of them had any basis in fact. Most of them were just part of the standard Limbaugh/Hannity talking points.

You don't have any reasons for hating Obama, you just do, just like you were told to. That doesn't constitute a reasonable argument or a reason to urge a change in the policies of the Obama administration. I have my own reasons for disagreeing with certain Obama administration policies, just as I have my reasons for disagreeing with just about every Bush administration policies. But you won't hear me saying that Obama or Bush are bad just because I don't like them. That produces nothing but blind partisanship.

HAVENT YOU READ ANY OF MY POSTS!? i have given plenty of reasons why i dont like him, i dont follow anyone! i have my own thoughts. read my other posts dont twist this around.

[Greater Americania]

Guy hasn't been in office for one year an you say he's doing poorly. Man, what's that word called when you judge someone unfairly based on your own agendas? Ah it's on the tip of my tongue.

Logic? Anyone who spends the kind of money Obama is spending in that kind of way is a horrible statesman, politician, and leader who doesn't understand the full realities that are national and global politics.

[Pevisopolis]

FAUX Noise is just jumping on their first opportunity to discredit him as the Elitist, Communist, Foreign Terrorist with an unspecified evil agenda he really is.

[Yootopia]

FAUX Noise

Could you not get some decorum?

[Patriqvinia]

FAUX Noise is just jumping on their first opportunity to discredit him as the Elitist, Communist, Foreign Terrorist with an unspecified evil agenda he really is.

Faux is awful news and just as evil as they say Obama is, however I find myself, for the first time in a long time, agreeing with them... Maybe their finally watching Lou Dobbs or something..

[Kaldari]

OMG SOCIALISM R BAD!!!11111

Look people, as several has said before, Obama is not socialist. Far from it. If you don't understand, go wiki Socialism. Here, I'll HELP you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

There, do some reading and then come back. And if anyone calls him Communist, I will laugh uproariously as that is grasping for straws like a drowning man grasps for something to hold on to.

I am not saying we should turn to socialism for comfort, I am saying we should pick and choose. If we find something that works in a socialistic system and fits in with ours and can work, I am of the belief of "Sure, why not?". As long as it doesn't infringe on vital freedoms and such, I'm fine with it. It'd be a case by case basis on how I'd feel about it but it's how I think. If you oppose this on ideological grounds (i.e. Wanderjar), that's fine. If you just say "LOL HE R TAKIN CONTRUL OV DA GOVIRNMINT, HE S A CAUMUENIST!" you REALLY need to rethink your line and give me some facts, links to an article or source that supports your argument. Otherwise, you are just doing what many people, Americans or otherwise do, look at something, make a first judgment, and then don't bother to look into it more.

[CIB EMPIRE]

OMG SOCIALISM R BAD!!!11111

Look people, as several has said before, Obama is not socialist. Far from it. If you don't understand, go wiki Socialism. Here, I'll HELP you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

There, do some reading and then come back. And if anyone calls him Communist, I will laugh uproariously as that is grasping for straws like a drowning man grasps for something to hold on to.

I am not saying we should turn to socialism for comfort, I am saying we should pick and choose. If we find something that works in a socialistic system and fits in with ours and can work, I am of the belief of "Sure, why not?". As long as it doesn't infringe on vital freedoms and such, I'm fine with it. It'd be a case by case basis on how I'd feel about it but it's how I think. If you oppose this on ideological grounds (i.e. Wanderjar), that's fine. If you just say "LOL HE R TAKIN CONTRUL OV DA GOVIRNMINT, HE S A CAUMUENIST!" you REALLY need to rethink your line and give me some facts, links to an article or source that supports your argument. Otherwise, you are just doing what many people, Americans or otherwise do, look at something, make a first judgment, and then don't bother to look into it more.

he is socialist

[Kaldari]

And, you sir, are obviously a troll.

Any questions?

[Dakini]

The reason why the media is mad? Well, the beer is 'Belgian'.

Bud light isn't Belgian. It's American crappy beer made by a company that was bought by a Belgian company.

[CIB EMPIRE]

And, you sir, are obviously a troll.

Any questions?

no i am not, i think he is a socialist that is not a troll. he is the definition of one.

[Kaldari]

You didn't look at the link I posted, did you?

You are not a troll? I don't recall the exact definition of troll set out by the mods, as it's rather extensive, but one part covers saying things that obviously will anger people and drive them to insult each other. ....Or was that flamebaiting? I can't recall. Anyways, all you do is say conservative stance bits and refuse to say anything beyond "NUHUH, HE'S A SOCIALIST. I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I REPEAT MYSELF."

You know who else used this tactic? The people who deny the Holocaust. Doesn't work much for them, does it? Constantly saying ITS A CONSPIRACY does not make the deaths of Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and other minorities go away. And thus your constant repeating of your stance does not magically transform Obama into a socialist/communist.

[Treznor]

please, i hate obama and bush so please dont keep going back and forth between them. you know obamas doing bad stop defending him

I'm addressing each of your complaints as you listed them. With one exception, none of them had any basis in fact. Most of them were just part of the standard Limbaugh/Hannity talking points.

You don't have any reasons for hating Obama, you just do, just like you were told to. That doesn't constitute a reasonable argument or a reason to urge a change in the policies of the Obama administration. I have my own reasons for disagreeing with certain Obama administration policies, just as I have my reasons for disagreeing with just about every Bush administration policies. But you won't hear me saying that Obama or Bush are bad just because I don't like them. That produces nothing but blind partisanship.

HAVENT YOU READ ANY OF MY POSTS!? i have given plenty of reasons why i dont like him, i dont follow anyone! i have my own thoughts. read my other posts dont twist this around.

I have, in fact, read each one of your posts in this thread. I haven't seen anything that deviated from the standard Grand Old Party talking points, as handed down by the GOP leadership: Limbaugh and Hannity. Nor have I seen anything substantial in your complaints, just a lot of vague accusations and rhetoric.

You're a good little drone, though. Keep it up and they might let you make coffee at the next GOP fundraiser.

[CIB EMPIRE]

no freaking way. i dont like democrats or republicans. they are both the same. look at my earlyer posts i have already stated my opinion. i am a ron paul supporter btw

[Jakra]

Guy hasn't been in office for one year an you say he's doing poorly. Man, what's that word called when you judge someone unfairly based on your own agendas? Ah it's on the tip of my tongue.

Logic? Anyone who spends the kind of money Obama is spending in that kind of way is a horrible statesman, politician, and leader who doesn't understand the full realities that are national and global politics.

Well NFGA, WTF would you do? Besides ever hear the phrase "You gotta spend money to make money"?

[The South Islands]

His beer choice leaves much to be desired.

[Pevisopolis]

he is socialist

I suppose he's a traitor for being a member of the democratic party, too? Explain, please.

[CIB EMPIRE]

he is socialist

I suppose he's a traitor for being a member of the democratic party, too? Explain, please.

no, i dont like either dems or the repub. i vote for the person who shares my believes party does not matter

[Pevisopolis]

he is socialist

I suppose he's a traitor for being a member of the democratic party, too? Explain, please.

no, i dont like either dems or the repub. i vote for the person who shares my believes party does not matter

I was more talking about your jumping onto overly used and worn out points rather than party orientation.

[CIB EMPIRE]

I suppose he's a traitor for being a member of the democratic party, too? Explain, please.[/quote]

no, i dont like either dems or the repub. i vote for the person who shares my believes party does not matter[/quote]
I was more talking about your jumping onto overly used and worn out points rather than party orientation.[/quote]
well i have explained myself in earlyer posts but people ignore