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Do you think America really is awesome.

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Hiddenrun » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:54 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:If I was such an idiot, people would be tearing my arguments apart.

Instead they're calling me an idiot.

It takes a lot less brains to do that.


They are, you just haven't figured it out yet.


I'm going to ignore this tangent until you folks actually come up with some sort of argument.
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Enadail » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:54 am

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Hiddenrun wrote:And it turned us into a superpower. I don't see the EU defending itself against the threats of Islamic fundamentalism and Chinese communism too effectively.


I'm sorry? Our skyscrapers are still standing.


London tube bombings, Spain's subway explosions, the riots in France, shall I continue?


That's just insulting to the memory of 9/11 victims to compare the severity. While the subway bombings were tragic, to compare the severity makes you look like an idiot. But I'm pretty sure you're immune to others thoughts.

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Enadail » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:54 am

Hiddenrun wrote:I'm going to ignore this tangent until you folks actually come up with some sort of argument.


An argument you'll accept... I don't know if such a thing can exist.

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Phenia » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:56 am

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More revisionist history. In 1812, the Brits were the superpower, and in the war of 1812, we fought them to a standstill. What I'm saying is that we are as powerful as the superpower of the time when we were sixteen. The EU doesn't seem to be quite so tough.


It has been 16 years since the EU was formed. Quick fact check genius, what's 1776 plus 16? Is it 1812?

"Revisionist history" indeed. The US was not a superpower, not even if it managed to "fight the Brits to a standstill." Vietnam fought the US to a standstill -- one might even say, defeated -- does that make Vietnam a superpower?

And you still haven't addressed the fact that you apparently feel the EU should be a nanny-state protecting you against bad ideas that make you wet your pants. You don't have much of an argument there -- no smug accusations of "revisionist history" --and are just hoping to let it slide.

Jesus, and you wonder why people call you an idiot.

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby United Technocrats » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:56 am

Hiddenrun wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:Do you guys get together and plan to ask me the same dumb questions four or five times?


Perhaps if everyone else thinks you're an idiot but you think your fine and it's everyone else that's wrong you should entertain the idea that perhaps you are actually an idiot.


If I was such an idiot, people would be tearing my arguments apart.

Instead they're calling me an idiot.

It takes a lot less brains to do that.


So, when Your arguments are torn apart ... how will You know? ;)

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Exilia and Colonies » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:57 am

Hiddenrun wrote:
Exilia and Colonies wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:And it turned us into a superpower. I don't see the EU defending itself against the threats of Islamic fundamentalism and Chinese communism too effectively.


And it isn't a load of European IOUs China's sitting on.


Probably because the Chinese know it's better to invest in the dollar than the Euro.


Of course it is. It gives Chinese Communism great fiscal leverage over the US. Now I believe you were whining about the EU's inability to defend itself against Chinese Communism? Because the US is doing such a great job of that :roll:
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Hiddenrun » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:57 am

Maurepas wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Perhaps if everyone else thinks you're an idiot but you think your fine and it's everyone else that's wrong you should entertain the idea that perhaps you are actually an idiot.


If I was such an idiot, people would be tearing my arguments apart.

Instead they're calling me an idiot.

It takes a lot less brains to do that.

True, fortunately both have been done here, which is always such fun, :)

Besides, how can you say the EU isnt fighting "Islamic Fundamentalism" when they have significant forces right alongside ours in Afghanistan?


Because the forces doing most of the fighting are American and Canadian troops. The European forces are doing fluff work, nation rebuolding crap that the Girl Guides could do.
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:57 am

Maurepas wrote:Its a major source of funding for Al-Qaeda too, whats your point? Just because individuals donate to the groups, doesnt mean the City itself or its government support their actions...


My point was that the US finally got a wake up call, it had been funding terrorist organisations across the world for a long time, both privately and via government agencies, and as soon as it got a taste of the medicine it had funded it got all upset.

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby United Technocrats » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:57 am

Maurepas wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:So, you insult me instead of arguing the issue, and I'm the troll?

How long have you been here?

Not to mention, its perfectly obvious the Log Cabin wasnt invented in the United States, it really shouldnt need arguing, :roll:


Hello, Maurepas.

Well, I gotta admire the young man's devotion, don't You? :)

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Phenia » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:57 am

United Technocrats wrote:
So, when Your arguments are torn apart ... how will You know? ;)


They have been, and he doesn't know it. He's hoping to just play blind man and hope that we'll believe it's not an elephant after all, but a man with a 7 foot penis.

I'm not playing blind man. That's a fucking elephant he's fondling.
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Hiddenrun » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:58 am

Maurepas wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:
Maurepas wrote:How long have you been here?

Not to mention, its perfectly obvious the Log Cabin wasnt invented in the United States, it really shouldnt need arguing, :roll:


It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read my posts carefully enough, or you wouldn't be making the same stupid complaint about log cabins that I already dealt with.

Well, you did ask why people responded to it several times...besides, where did you prove that concept to be correct, because, I havent seen it...


Then read my posts. I'm not doing your homework for you.
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:59 am

Hiddenrun wrote:Because the forces doing most of the fighting are American and Canadian troops. The European forces are doing fluff work, nation rebuolding crap that the Girl Guides could do.


Yep, Panthers Claw is just fluff work.

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Hiddenrun » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:00 pm

Chrobalta wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:
Maurepas wrote:How long have you been here?

Not to mention, its perfectly obvious the Log Cabin wasnt invented in the United States, it really shouldnt need arguing, :roll:


It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read my posts carefully enough, or you wouldn't be making the same stupid complaint about log cabins that I already dealt with.

Maybe you should read your own posts. As an American I feel almost embarrassed watching you make a fool out of yourself on issues these guys refute you on every time.

Knock off the nationalistic crap and look at things from a neutral stand point.


Except they havn't refuted me. I wasn't claiming that the US invented the log cabin.
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby United Technocrats » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:00 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:I'm sorry? Our skyscrapers are still standing.


Ouch, that was a low blow ;)

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Fson » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:02 pm

Hiddenrun wrote:
Western Mercenary Unio wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:That's a common viewpoint from those who live in conquered cultures, as they are forced to learn both their own language and those of the conquering culture, while the conquering culture need not learn the language of the oppressed. The Welsh are good example of a culture that had to learn English, while the English had no need of learning Welsh.

This is also evidence of the fact that some cultures are better than others. And the strongest culture of all will therefore impose its language on the rest of the world, such as the USA is currently imposing English as the common language.


Wut. I didn't know that the US was pushing English as a national language to replace either Swedish or Finnish. :roll: Seriously, yes, there are more English speakers. That doesn't mean that Finnish is disappearing.


Local languages are good for housewives using a local economy, but if you want to play with the big boys in the global economy, you have to learn English.

English is the language of global trade, which is expanding as technology progresses. As trade expands, so will English. Simple math.



Actually im pretty sure spanish is the language you should learn if you want to do well in business.
by Wilgrove » Wed May 26, 2010 7:51 am

OMG, It's so obvious! Of course!! Science has lied to us!!!

It's time to abandon scientific progress and only look towards the Lord Jesus Christ (who is white of course) for guidance in all matters!

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Exilia and Colonies » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:02 pm

Hiddenrun wrote:Because the forces doing most of the fighting are American and Canadian troops. The European forces are doing fluff work, nation rebuolding crap that the Girl Guides could do.


Lets beat the point with a quick wiki-link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_ ... fghanistan

Wiki wrote:Top three countries involved in Afghanistan by deaths

1. US
2. UK
3. Canada


Whats that? An EU member in second place? Point countered. Besides rebuilding is important otherwise the country collapses as soon as you leave.
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Hiddenrun » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:02 pm

United Technocrats wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:
United Technocrats wrote:If we cannot agree on what comprises a "cultural model," then I would rather choose to discontinue that topic.

With your tail betwen your legs.


That's Your black and white perception of my reaction. When You grow up, things will become more clear for You (or, at least, I hope so).

I'll let you read the same answer I made above the last six times I answered this.


Sorry, it was addressed to me, so I answered. I didn't read the related posts too carefully. I apologize.

I was talking about how we founded a nation with separation of church and state. The thing with the money didn't start until long after.


But You still have that slogan on Your money, while other nations do not?


This is so unimportant that I can't believe you're still talking about it. It's just a stupid tradition that doesn't affect anyone but some whiny atheists who like to pretend they're being oppressed.
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby United Technocrats » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:04 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read my posts carefully enough, or you wouldn't be making the same stupid complaint about log cabins that I already dealt with.

Well, you did ask why people responded to it several times...besides, where did you prove that concept to be correct, because, I havent seen it...


Well, he said he DEALT WITH that, he didn't claim he proved it to be correct :D

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Maurepas » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:04 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Its a major source of funding for Al-Qaeda too, whats your point? Just because individuals donate to the groups, doesnt mean the City itself or its government support their actions...


My point was that the US finally got a wake up call, it had been funding terrorist organisations across the world for a long time, both privately and via government agencies, and as soon as it got a taste of the medicine it had funded it got all upset.

Well, I certainly cant argue with that, unfortunately, we did build Bin-Laden from the ground up....

However, the attack itself is still not justified, and deserved the retribution it got...

And, uh...Hi UT, no, I cant bring myself to admire it, it sickens me, as an American, and really the attitude itself is a big part of the dislike of my country alot of the world feels, unfortunately...

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Hiddenrun » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:06 pm

Exilia and Colonies wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:I'm sorry? Our skyscrapers are still standing.


London tube bombings, Spain's subway explosions, the riots in France, shall I continue?


The first two are a lot smaller in scale and effect than 9/11 and the riots had nothing to do with Islamic fundamentalism


So?
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Exilia and Colonies » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:07 pm

Hiddenrun wrote:
Exilia and Colonies wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:[

London tube bombings, Spain's subway explosions, the riots in France, shall I continue?


The first two are a lot smaller in scale and effect than 9/11 and the riots had nothing to do with Islamic fundamentalism


So?


So Europe has been hit less hard by Islamic Fundamentalists and thus has defended itself better against them than the US has.
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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:09 pm

Hiddenrun wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:And it turned us into a superpower. I don't see the EU defending itself against the threats of Islamic fundamentalism and Chinese communism too effectively.


I'm sorry? Our skyscrapers are still standing.


London tube bombings, Spain's subway explosions, the riots in France, shall I continue?


Please do. When you get up to 3000 deaths, a major landmark completely destroyed and a big hole in the military HQ of a European state then please give me a call.

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby United Technocrats » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:10 pm

Phenia wrote:
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So, when Your arguments are torn apart ... how will You know? ;)


They have been, and he doesn't know it. He's hoping to just play blind man and hope that we'll believe it's not an elephant after all, but a man with a 7 foot penis.

I'm not playing blind man. That's a fucking elephant he's fondling.


I know that, and that's exactly why I asked ;)

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby Phenia » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:11 pm

Well, I guess he's not going to argue, just come up with brilliant non-refutations like "SO?" and "LOL THEY HAVEN"T ADDRESSED MY ARGUMENT, I CAN"T HEAR YOU LA LA LA." I'm done with feeding the troll, you are all welcome to continue if you wish.

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Re: Discrimination against America??

Postby United Technocrats » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:13 pm

Hiddenrun wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Hiddenrun wrote:It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read my posts carefully enough, or you wouldn't be making the same stupid complaint about log cabins that I already dealt with.

Well, you did ask why people responded to it several times...besides, where did you prove that concept to be correct, because, I havent seen it...

Then read my posts. I'm not doing your homework for you.


Geez, the kid is a real spokesperson material.... :clap:

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