XM8 Assault Rifle

[Khytenna]

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TBH, America should just adopt the EM-2.

Why not just rechamber the L85A1 in .280 or .300 and call it a day?

becouse that weapon is poorly designed and is prone to jaming.

[Khytenna]

becouse that weapon is poorly designed and is prone to jaming.

America should adopt a modified Kel Tec RFB in 6.5 Grendel or 7.62 NATO.

aparently there bringing a 6.5 version out.... shame i cant fire it though, due lack of guns in the UK

[St George of England]

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TBH, America should just adopt the EM-2.

Why not just rechamber the L85A1 in .280 or .300 and call it a day?

BECAUSE L85A1 IS NOT GLORIOUS EM-2

[Seiwa]

And so far nobody has given any verifiable evidence for that. I've seen too many people in this thread repeating crap they read on an internet forum.

So far all we have is speculation based on modifications improving heat dissipation. I'm more inclined to believe the shroud and handguard simply became a bit too hot to handle properly during sustained fire as opposed to "melting."

If your referring to overheating, that happens just as much with the M-16.
Or at least if did back in vietnam when it was still fully automatic.

[Khytenna]

Why not just rechamber the L85A1 in .280 or .300 and call it a day?

BECAUSE L85A1 IS NOT GLORIOUS EM-2

the EM-2, if remade, would be a far better rifle then the L85A1

[Daistallia 2104]

So far all we have is speculation based on modifications improving heat dissipation. I'm more inclined to believe the shroud and handguard simply became a bit too hot to handle properly during sustained fire as opposed to "melting."

If your referring to overheating, that happens just as much with the M-16.
Or at least if did back in vietnam when it was still fully automatic.

But you don't see the parrots in here claiming it is a bad weapon because it melts...

[Regnu di Venezia]

WOW. A 50/50 split?! With over 80 people per side?! INSANITY!

But on the subject: NO. The XM8 is a really stupid looking weapon. And our current weapons work well enough. Come up with something that looks badass and we'll talk. After all, 50% of warfare is psychological, and the other half is apparently "knowing."

[Daistallia 2104]

WOW. A 50/50 split?! With over 80 people per side?! INSANITY!

But on the subject: NO. The XM8 is a really stupid looking weapon. And our current weapons work well enough. Come up with something that looks badass and we'll talk. After all, 50% of warfare is psychological, and the other half is apparently "knowing."

Wow - what an amazingly silly view of warfare. It's only topped by your judging a weapon not by it's effectiveness but by silly ideas of what you personally think is cool.

[Wamitoria]

WOW. A 50/50 split?! With over 80 people per side?! INSANITY!

But on the subject: NO. The XM8 is a really stupid looking weapon. And our current weapons work well enough. Come up with something that looks badass and we'll talk. After all, 50% of warfare is psychological, and the other half is apparently "knowing."

The battle is 50% knowing, 25% red lasers, and 25% blue lasers.

Get it right, sheesh.

[Regnu di Venezia]

WOW. A 50/50 split?! With over 80 people per side?! INSANITY!

But on the subject: NO. The XM8 is a really stupid looking weapon. And our current weapons work well enough. Come up with something that looks badass and we'll talk. After all, 50% of warfare is psychological, and the other half is apparently "knowing."

Wow - what an amazingly silly view of warfare. It's only topped by your judging a weapon not by it's effectiveness but by silly ideas of what you personally think is cool.

Soldiers can kill people. There's no questioning that. Some weapons are better at killing people than others. But is the cost of these new weapons justified by their impact on the nation? After all, we ALL pay for the military's guns. The 'kickass' factor is extremely important to us civvies, who will be watching inaccurate movies about our armed forces for YEARS after the weapon enters service. The least we ask is that it not look like a damn space toilet.

[Genivaria]

If your referring to overheating, that happens just as much with the M-16.
Or at least if did back in vietnam when it was still fully automatic.

But you don't see the parrots in here claiming it is a bad weapon because it melts...

Um...yes I do. That's exactly what there saying.

[Licana]

But you don't see the parrots in here claiming it is a bad weapon because it melts...

Um...yes I do. That's exactly what there saying.

I think what you have failed to detect here is sarcasm.

[Arkinesia]

BECAUSE L85A1 IS NOT GLORIOUS EM-2

the EM-2, if remade, would be a far better rifle then the L85A1

If all this was going to be important, we should have just used the Sieg rifle.

[Genivaria]

Um...yes I do. That's exactly what there saying.

I think what you have failed to detect here is sarcasm.

Because we're on the internet. Most people state there sarcasm on the internet.
Like this /sarcasm.

[Licana]

I think what you have failed to detect here is sarcasm.

Because we're on the internet. Most people state there sarcasm on the internet.
Like this /sarcasm.

I know only a few people that ever do that. Also, in this case, it was almost blindingly obvious.

[Genivaria]

Because we're on the internet. Most people state there sarcasm on the internet.
Like this /sarcasm.

I know only a few people that ever do that. Also, in this case, it was almost blindingly obvious.

Well my mistake.

[Daistallia 2104]

But you don't see the parrots in here claiming it is a bad weapon because it melts...

Um...yes I do. That's exactly what there saying.

When exactly did the location you referred to saying anything?

I think what you have failed to detect here is sarcasm.

Actually I think we have a failure to understand that the pronoun's antecedent was the M-16 (unless someone can point out where in this thread someone claimed the M-16 melted).

[Licana]

I think what you have failed to detect here is sarcasm.

Actually I think we have a failure to understand that the pronoun's antecedent was the M-16 (unless someone can point out where in this thread someone claimed the M-16 melted).

Ah, sorry, been out of the conversation for a while, thought we were still on the XM-8's supposed melting problem.

[Daistallia 2104]

Soldiers can kill people. There's no questioning that. Some weapons are better at killing people than others. But is the cost of these new weapons justified by their impact on the nation? After all, we ALL pay for the military's guns. The 'kickass' factor is extremely important to us civvies, who will be watching inaccurate movies about our armed forces for YEARS after the weapon enters service. The least we ask is that it not look like a damn space toilet.

No sane nation chooses a weapon because a child thinks it looks "cool".

[Genivaria]

Actually I think we have a failure to understand that the pronoun's antecedent was the M-16 (unless someone can point out where in this thread someone claimed the M-16 melted).

Ah, sorry, been out of the conversation for a while, thought we were still on the XM-8's supposed melting problem.

I thought that to.

[Wamitoria]

Soldiers can kill people. There's no questioning that. Some weapons are better at killing people than others. But is the cost of these new weapons justified by their impact on the nation? After all, we ALL pay for the military's guns. The 'kickass' factor is extremely important to us civvies, who will be watching inaccurate movies about our armed forces for YEARS after the weapon enters service. The least we ask is that it not look like a damn space toilet.

No sane nation chooses a weapon because a child thinks it looks "cool".

Otherwise everyone would still be using G36s and Desert Eagles.

Dear god, it'd be like F&NI...

[Socialist States Owen]

IIRC, the US has toyed with bullpup designs, but hasn't found them to be effective enough to replace the M16. They also do provide some benefits, but have some problems, such as reloading and being hard for left handed members to use, not to mention some of the balance issues (with the majority of the weight being placed in the rear).

That's one thing I'll credit the M16 with. Speaking from my own experience, it's pretty good for left handed operation.

Is the L86 a Bulldup? Apparentley left handed users get bullets spit in their face by that thing.

[Daistallia 2104]

Actually I think we have a failure to understand that the pronoun's antecedent was the M-16 (unless someone can point out where in this thread someone claimed the M-16 melted).

Ah, sorry, been out of the conversation for a while, thought we were still on the XM-8's supposed melting problem.

No worries. (However, I am half inclined to ask if you though the "it" in "Or at least if did back in vietnam when it was still fully automatic." referred to th XM8... )

Because we're on the internet. Most people state there sarcasm on the internet.
Like this /sarcasm.

First of all, most people don't indicate sarcasm with a tag.
Secondly, as "eir" is just as easy to type as "ere", you appear not to know the difference between possessive and demonstrative pronouns.

[Genivaria]

Ah, sorry, been out of the conversation for a while, thought we were still on the XM-8's supposed melting problem.

No worries. (However, I am half inclined to ask if you though the "it" in "Or at least if did back in vietnam when it was still fully automatic." referred to th XM8... )

Because we're on the internet. Most people state there sarcasm on the internet.
Like this /sarcasm.

First of all, most people don't indicate sarcasm with a tag.
Secondly, as "eir" is just as easy to type as "ere", you appear not to know the difference between possessive and demonstrative pronouns.

That was referring to the M-16. And no I don't.

[Daistallia 2104]

Ah, sorry, been out of the conversation for a while, thought we were still on the XM-8's supposed melting problem.

I thought that to.

LOL - did you also think Seiwa's use of "it" referred to the XM8?