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Postby Mhykael » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:18 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
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I'd be careful making statements like that... God forbid someone on Nation States did something like that. It might be considered conspiracy to commit murder. :?

What? I'm just saying to go hunting, maybe go to a firing range, or best yet, fishing with steel rods. But a little bit of sword practice doesn't hurt either. :D


Let's not mince words it's very clear what your intentions were by that statement.

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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:18 pm

Mhykael wrote:Hypothetical situation here, (for now) Why haven't you personally revolted yet? The world in the state that it is in now is at critical mass. If things don't change soon it's very likely all our countries will get dragged under via a domino effect. This will most likely be caused by the loss of major economies and or over inflation of the surviving economies. Or the straight out loss of the core economic areas of particular countries. (Japan, America and possibly the Middle East.)So my question is, why haven't you joined the other people who have gathered around the world and have collectively said "f*@( this, if we're going down we're taking you with us." What would it take for you to be that person one day? Are you waiting for the Atomic Bomb? Because in my Opinion that is WAY to late. That's end game theoretically.

I cant see that happening anytime soon; and even if it does: I dont really give a damn since Nepal is more or less isolated from world economy anyway - so if all other economies collapses, and countries are thrown in revolt: it doesn't affect me, so I dont give a shit.
What would it take for you to fight and take back the Earth for you and the rest of the planet before it's to late?

Nothing but everything - depends on how you look at it.
If everything goes wrong with every other nation, except Nepal: I dont care at all. Let them drown.
If my country is occupied, then anything: even good thing government does.
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:18 pm

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Mhykael wrote:Why haven't you personally revolted yet?

Because the odds of me successfully overthrowing the state and installing my own personal Psychotic Dictatorship are rather slim at this time. Give me a bit.

And things are fine as they are. Why would I want to change what already benefits me?

Slim, improbable, but not impossible.
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Postby Meryuma » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:19 pm

I support revolution, but haven't done anything significant seeing as I'm a lazy bastard.
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:19 pm

Mhykael wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:What? I'm just saying to go hunting, maybe go to a firing range, or best yet, fishing with steel rods. But a little bit of sword practice doesn't hurt either. :D


Let's not mince words it's very clear what your intentions were by that statement.

And what would that be? How could you possible tell what I was thinking, oh psychic angst-filled one?
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Postby Norstal » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:20 pm

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Norstal wrote:Oh tell me wise Nuclear engineer, how doth ye knowst of a nuclear reactor meltdown? And of what interval shall we expect that radiation level to increase, or at what rate of change will the reactions ovetake the control rods? Oh wise Nuclear physicist, how doth thou rescueth people trapped under the fucking rubble without government intervention?


I'm not a nuclear engineer I just pay attention to news media outside the US. I don't know what rate it will happen because like i said I'm not a nuclear physicist. But when 3/5 of the main building are structurally damaged beyond repair and have visable chunks of wall missing.. yeah... Also, You don't rescue people trapped for a week under the rubble without government intervention unless you just have extremely brave citizens.

So why hasn't it exploded yet? Structure damage means nothing. It's all about the reactors. That's what's really important.

The main point of this aside is, of course, that the government can handle emergency situations better than people. You yourself would've just abandon the nuclear plant and have the godamn thing spew radiation everywhere. Of course, you have to thank the Japanese government for the prevention of this catastrophe.
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Postby Cerralvo Island » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:33 am

Technically I am. I try to not pay protection racket to the government as much as possible.

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Postby Novograd IV » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:49 am

When I'm confident in either popular support or the dire need to protect myself, I'm ready to go inna woods and form a militia. I have the capacity to make explosives and smoke bombs with minimal assistance at the very least.
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Postby Marcurix » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:51 am

Great Nepal wrote:I cant see that happening anytime soon; and even if it does: I dont really give a damn since Nepal is more or less isolated from world economy anyway - so if all other economies collapses, and countries are thrown in revolt: it doesn't affect me, so I dont give a shit.
What would it take for you to fight and take back the Earth for you and the rest of the planet before it's to late?

Nothing but everything - depends on how you look at it.
If everything goes wrong with every other nation, except Nepal: I dont care at all. Let them drown.
If my country is occupied, then anything: even good thing government does.


Hence why he said "Hypothetical situation" Whats more Nepal isnt "more or less isolated from world economy anyway". The country receives foreign aid from India, Japan, the UK, the US, the EU, China, Switzerland, and Scandinavian countries.Nepal receives $50 million a year through the Gurkha soldiers who serve in the Indian and British armies and the total remittance value is worth around $1 billion (or 8.3% of the GDP), including money sent from the Persian Gulf and Malaysia, who combined employ around 700,000 Nepali citizens. This is ignoring the loss of exports and the like.

Don't you live in the UK anyway? Pretty damn sure it would affect you.


Mhykael wrote:Hypothetical situation here, (for now) Why haven't you personally revolted yet? The world in the state that it is in now is at critical mass. If things don't change soon it's very likely all our countries will get dragged under via a domino effect. This will most likely be caused by the loss of major economies and or over inflation of the surviving economies. Or the straight out loss of the core economic areas of particular countries. (Japan, America and possibly the Middle East.)So my question is, why haven't you joined the other people who have gathered around the world and have collectively said "f*@( this, if we're going down we're taking you with us." What would it take for you to be that person one day? Are you waiting for the Atomic Bomb? Because in my Opinion that is WAY to late. That's end game theoretically.


meh, the only thing that would spur me into any meaningful action are either zombies or a Fallout scenario. No fun otherwise.
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Postby Futurephilosostan » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:56 am

Mhykael wrote:Hypothetical situation here, (for now) Why haven't you personally revolted yet? The world in the state that it is in now is at critical mass. If things don't change soon it's very likely all our countries will get dragged under via a domino effect. This will most likely be caused by the loss of major economies and or over inflation of the surviving economies. Or the straight out loss of the core economic areas of particular countries. (Japan, America and possibly the Middle East.)

So my question is, why haven't you joined the other people who have gathered around the world and have collectively said "f*@( this, if we're going down we're taking you with us." What would it take for you to be that person one day? Are you waiting for the Atomic Bomb? Because in my Opinion that is WAY to late. That's end game theoretically. What would it take for you to fight and take back the Earth for you and the rest of the planet before it's to late?


Because, i disagree with opinions stated above. I think that world is in good state and is moving upward (i.e., no one is going down). The earth already belongs to us, we don't have to take it back :)


Edit: And in purely hyptethical situation 'what if' scenario, the one thing that would lead me to go to revolution would be either foreign military intervention or unsustainable political or economic regime (communism). And if others did it.
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Postby Genivar » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:13 am

Revolt how?
Protests in the streets? We have those, politicians rarely listen to them.
Form a militia? There all either conservative fringe groups or nazis and we leftists don't want to be associated with them.

Revolting is hard when your the only one you know doing it.
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:47 am

Mhykael wrote:I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees...

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Postby Forsakia » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:56 am

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Mhykael wrote:Do you not realize, we are on such a razor's edge that if people stopped working for just 2 or 3 days. Not part of the country, not half, but if 75% or so stopped working for 2 or 3 days. We would crash, that's how close we are.


I daresay that at any strength of the economy if 75% of the workforce stopped working it would cause a fairly substantial nosedive; that's not really indicative of how 'bad' the situation we're in now is.


For 2 or 3 days I doubt it'd change much. Many countries go through severe snow days and such where a lot of the workforce randomly doesn't work for a day. It's not great but generally people find ways to catch up.
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Postby Miasto Lodz » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:08 am

Mhykael wrote:Why haven't you revolted yet?.

It's because people in my country are living under the "crisis" since 1980 with a short period of prosperity (2005-2008) and we've got used to think life's a bitch. ;) We're just tougher than most of the nations around the Europe. Emigration is an easier and more satisfying way.
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Postby Gallade » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:18 am

Well, I went to Dublin to protest the increase in student fees and cut of the maintenance grant, but that was really just to get a day off uni. :unsure:
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Postby Asitekera » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:40 am

Revolt.. naa. There is some protest rallyes now and then against unpopular goverment legislations, but ive never taken part in any of them becouse i am too lazy, but recently ive become more and more disapointed at the current goverment.

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Postby Basementees » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:44 am

The Peasants Are Revolting!!

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Postby Cameroi » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:50 am

i revolt in my own quiet, non-confrontational way, by simply not supporting the dominance of aggressiveness in any and every way i can find of not doing so.

i wholeheartedly support the concept of throwing off its tyranny, which EVERY ideology is just different words for the same narrow little lie of making excuses for it.
only the completely needless combination of hatered of strangeness and love of aggressiveness has enabled tyranny to survive all the millinea (however you spell that word that means multiple thousands of years) that it has.

economic interests mindlessly perpetuate that combination to keep their hands in everyone's pockets, but that is completely needless too.

granted infrastructure requires social organization in some form. but nothing requires that form to by generalized hierarchy in any form.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:51 am

Mhykael wrote:Do you not realize, we are on such a razor's edge that if people stopped working for just 2 or 3 days. Not part of the country, not half, but if 75% or so stopped working for 2 or 3 days. We would crash, that's how close we are.


You're being ridiculous.

Any society that is significantly removed from subsistence farming is heavily reliant on simple maintenance for it's preservation. That doesn't mean we're inches from calamity.

Interesting, though - you're calling for revolution, which definitely WOULD upset the balance. A little self-fulfilling.
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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:53 am

Mhykael wrote:Hypothetical situation here, (for now) Why haven't you personally revolted yet? The world in the state that it is in now is at critical mass. If things don't change soon it's very likely all our countries will get dragged under via a domino effect. This will most likely be caused by the loss of major economies and or over inflation of the surviving economies. Or the straight out loss of the core economic areas of particular countries. (Japan, America and possibly the Middle East.)

So my question is, why haven't you joined the other people who have gathered around the world and have collectively said "f*@( this, if we're going down we're taking you with us." What would it take for you to be that person one day? Are you waiting for the Atomic Bomb? Because in my Opinion that is WAY to late. That's end game theoretically. What would it take for you to fight and take back the Earth for you and the rest of the planet before it's to late?


Because I have obligations, like jobs, bills, etc. I can't exactly go rioting in the streets on a whim.

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Postby Cerod » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:54 am

Imsogone wrote:I'm already revolting. Why do I need to carry it to the streets?


how?
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Postby Yootwopia » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:54 am

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Postby Cyber Utopia » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:04 am

To have a true revolt you would need to destroy corporations and such, start all over again. If all you do is overthrow a government you just end up with something just as bad a few generations down the line. You would need to completely tear apart the system, which would cost far more than it is worth. Most first world countries probably couldn't survive without agricultural imports. People living in cities would likely starve very quickly. The world would be terrible.
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Postby GPERNF » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:05 am

Nothing is going to happen until either the Government declares Martial Law or the Economy Collapses cause thats the only way people are going to care about what there Government is doing. At least here in America that is the case.

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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:11 am

Marcurix wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I cant see that happening anytime soon; and even if it does: I dont really give a damn since Nepal is more or less isolated from world economy anyway - so if all other economies collapses, and countries are thrown in revolt: it doesn't affect me, so I dont give a shit.

Nothing but everything - depends on how you look at it.
If everything goes wrong with every other nation, except Nepal: I dont care at all. Let them drown.
If my country is occupied, then anything: even good thing government does.


Hence why he said "Hypothetical situation" Whats more Nepal isnt "more or less isolated from world economy anyway". The country receives foreign aid from India, Japan, the UK, the US, the EU, China, Switzerland, and Scandinavian countries.

And that money goes into... pockets of politicians. Politicians going bankrupt? Not really a problem if you ask me.

Nepal receives $50 million a year through the Gurkha soldiers who serve in the Indian and British armies and the total remittance value is worth around $1 billion (or 8.3% of the GDP), including money sent from the Persian Gulf and Malaysia, who combined employ around 700,000 Nepali citizens. This is ignoring the loss of exports and the like.
Remittance largely goes to people's pocket and isn't really developing the nation either way. Remittance revenue was decreased by 50.7% compared to last year - and still there is no lolhuge economic depression is announced, no tax increase etc. And in fact Inflation decreased by 4.6%.

As for export considering it is contributes only $868 million, not really a large trouble and I am sure the collapsed nations will need stuff to rebuild itself so I will imagine it to increase in long term. :)


I am not British - so I dont actually care.
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