Why haven't you revolted yet?

[Mhykael]

By the time the average person notices we'll be screwed...

[Mosasauria]

By the time the average person notices we'll be screwed...

But who says they can't be forced to notice?

[Grave_n_idle]

We all die eventually. Your 'meat grinder' is a far less present threat than that inevitable demise, and we don't generally waste our time worrying too much about THAT one either.

I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees...

Okay. I'm not stopping you.

You apparently think the world has gone to hell in a hand-basket. I don't share your belief.

[Norstal]

Hypothetical situation here, (for now) Why haven't you personally revolted yet? The world in the state that it is in now is at critical mass. If things don't change soon it's very likely all our countries will get dragged under via a domino effect. This will most likely be caused by the loss of major economies and or over inflation of the surviving economies. Or the straight out loss of the core economic areas of particular countries. (Japan, America and possibly the Middle East.)

So my question is, why haven't you joined the other people who have gathered around the world and have collectively said "f*@( this, if we're going down we're taking you with us." What would it take for you to be that person one day? Are you waiting for the Atomic Bomb? Because in my Opinion that is WAY to late. That's end game theoretically. What would it take for you to fight and take back the Earth for you and the rest of the planet before it's to late?

What's there to gain?

[Mhykael]

Well I guess I'm kinda shocked that 2nd Amendment Advocates aren't out there already. Firearms for the Militia and the protection of the country and all that. I mean, we've already enslaved our children's children's children with the national debt. How many more generations are we going to let get involved in this also?

[Norstal]

We all die eventually. Your 'meat grinder' is a far less present threat than that inevitable demise, and we don't generally waste our time worrying too much about THAT one either.

I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees...

You just hate people don't you?

[Maxedon]

Because America is fine so far, but it needs to liberalize and lean to the left more.

US Conservatives will NEVER let it happen.

[Norstal]

Well I guess I'm kinda shocked that 2nd Amendment Advocates aren't out there already. Firearms for the Militia and the protection of the country and all that. I mean, we've already enslaved our children's children's children with the national debt. How many more generations are we going to let get involved in this also?

Like I said, what is there to gain by violent rebellion in the U.S?

[Mosasauria]

I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees...

You just hate people don't you?

And what exactly is wrong with that? I hate other people. Only a few meet my standards of exceptions.

[Mosasauria]

Well I guess I'm kinda shocked that 2nd Amendment Advocates aren't out there already. Firearms for the Militia and the protection of the country and all that. I mean, we've already enslaved our children's children's children with the national debt. How many more generations are we going to let get involved in this also?

Like I said, what is there to gain by violent rebellion in the U.S?

Nothing, until it is just close to being too late.

[Grave_n_idle]

Well I guess I'm kinda shocked that 2nd Amendment Advocates aren't out there already.

Not surprising, really. Despite the rhetoric, the proportion of 'gun nuts' that are actually insane, is fairly minimal.

*nods*

[Mhykael]

I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees...

You just hate people don't you?

I don't dislike people, I dislike the action of a few and the in action of the majority. That's all.

[Grave_n_idle]

Because America is fine so far, but it needs to liberalize and lean to the left more.

US Conservatives will NEVER let it happen.

No.

But their kids will.

*nods*

[Norstal]

You just hate people don't you?

And what exactly is wrong with that? I hate other people. Only a few meet my standards of exceptions.

That's fine, but he's talking about killing them.

[Mhykael]

Well I guess I'm kinda shocked that 2nd Amendment Advocates aren't out there already. Firearms for the Militia and the protection of the country and all that. I mean, we've already enslaved our children's children's children with the national debt. How many more generations are we going to let get involved in this also?

Like I said, what is there to gain by violent rebellion in the U.S?

Freedom of the people from fear, tyranny and oppression?

Basic human rights?

[Norstal]

Like I said, what is there to gain by violent rebellion in the U.S?

Freedom of the people from fear, tyranny and oppression?

Basic human rights?

What tyranny? What makes you feel so oppressed? The mandatory education? The food stamps? NASA? What?

[Avenio]

Hypothetical situation here, (for now)

Why do I get the distinct feeling that it's not, in fact, going to be a hypothetical?

Why haven't you personally revolted yet? The world in the state that it is in now is at critical mass.

The world's definitely seen much, much worse things. Heck, ask anyone who survived the Blitz in London how it feels to have their way of life come crashing down around them and to feel as though Western civilization was truly on the brink.

If things don't change soon it's very likely all our countries will get dragged under via a domino effect. This will most likely be caused by the loss of major economies and or over inflation of the surviving economies.

I doubt that highly. From what I've read, we're nowhere near the point where inflation becomes truly dangerous.

Or the straight out loss of the core economic areas of particular countries. (Japan, America and possibly the Middle East.)

'Loss'? I dunno what country you live in, but most news I've read about the economy are cautiously optimistic, not screaming about the apocalypse.

So my question is, why haven't you joined the other people who have gathered around the world and have collectively said "f*@( this, if we're going down we're taking you with us."

Because those people (Who are generally saying things like 'We've had enough of you, dictator', not what you said, and thus I, living in a nice, cozy democracy, can't, in good faith, delude myself into thinking that I live in the same sort of state they do. It demeans all of the people who have died fighting real oppression.

What would it take for you to be that person one day?

A genuine existential threat to myself, the country I am invested in and the values to which I hold dear. Not spin and doomsaying.

Are you waiting for the Atomic Bomb? Because in my Opinion that is WAY to late. That's end game theoretically. What would it take for you to fight and take back the Earth for you and the rest of the planet before it's to late?

'Too late'? Too late for what? The threat of real, world-ending nuclear war ended a while ago; MAD and the emergent global economy saw to that.

[Grave_n_idle]

Like I said, what is there to gain by violent rebellion in the U.S?

Freedom of the people from fear, tyranny and oppression?

Why are you afraid?

[Mosasauria]

And what exactly is wrong with that? I hate other people. Only a few meet my standards of exceptions.

That's fine, but he's talking about killing them.

And that's where he goes wrong. Killing mass amounts of people is no way to do it. You go from town to town, changing your name, killing a few people here and there, and whazam! Your now the biggest murderer since Jack the Ripper!

[Mhykael]

And what exactly is wrong with that? I hate other people. Only a few meet my standards of exceptions.

That's fine, but he's talking about killing them.

I'm not talking about killing them. I'm talking about grabbing your cajones walking to your capital and saying "No, fuck you. You do the work." Or even simple things as not paying your taxes. What are they going to do throw everyone in jail?

[Norstal]

That's fine, but he's talking about killing them.

I'm not talking about killing them. I'm talking about grabbing your cajones walking to your capital and saying "No, fuck you. You do the work." Or even simple things as not paying your taxes. What are they going to do throw everyone in jail?

Wow, that's it? Taxes? I'm not going to revolt because of something as mundane as taxes. Especially when there's thousands of ways to circumvent them (for legal reasons not to be discussed(ok ok, living like a hippie is one way)).

Especially when tax returns are generous.

[Mhykael]

Do you not realize, we are on such a razor's edge that if people stopped working for just 2 or 3 days. Not part of the country, not half, but if 75% or so stopped working for 2 or 3 days. We would crash, that's how close we are.

[Mosasauria]

Do you not realize, we are on such a razor's edge that if people stopped working for just 2 or 3 days. Not part of the country, not half, but if 75% or so stopped working for 2 or 3 days. We would crash, that's how close we are.

That would be the case in any country.

[Norstal]

Do you not realize, we are on such a razor's edge that if people stopped working for just 2 or 3 days. Not part of the country, not half, but if 75% or so stopped working for 2 or 3 days. We would crash, that's how close we are.

That's nice. So what? There is no point revolting if I gain nothing from it. You keep saying we can gain freedom or civil rights. We already have that.

Something tells me this is just another teenage angst.

[Redzon]

Because I know there's better alternatives.