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Risna
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Postby Risna » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:36 am

I want to revolt but i live in a conservative community and can not find anyone else with my ideals. I do not want to do it alone.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:37 am

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:I have not revolted yet because I am still within sell-by date and have been kept properly refrigerated.

You can't trust those sell-by dates. Smell test is the only way to be sure.

If you get a strong whiff of BO and alcohol, you know you've been properly revolted.
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Postby Vitius » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:41 am

Because:
1.) America is pretty far above most countries of the world. It's extremely hard to compare the economical and civil advantages in the U.S. to that of Libya or Egypt.
2.) This isn't certain with ALL cases (so please don't start using sources on me) but most countries that revolt end up in a worse situation for about twenty or thirty years. Personally, and greedily, I don't want that in my lifetime.

Even though you could use the United States as an example of a great nation being born out of a revolution, things pretty much sucked afterwards. There was Shay's Rebellion, the lack of federal power not being able to keep the states from bickering with eachother, and the huge divide between what was formally rich colonists who sat on their butts while the war went on, and the poor farmers and other colonists who fought for their nation's freedom.
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Postby PrncssOfCuddles » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:42 am

The solution to the world's problems is obviously violence. It is the only way we common folk can affect change. Systemic change cannot happen without destroying the system itself. People don't revolt because they are weak and cowardly. Or worse, apathetic. They do not care enough about their fellow man's suffering to commit violence against the institutions which arguably indirectly support the oppression and suffering of other peoples.

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Postby Jagalonia » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:45 am

Mhykael wrote:Hypothetical situation here, (for now) Why haven't you personally revolted yet?

Laziness mostly....And it's partialy my job to stop rioters...
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Postby SaintB » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:46 am

Because Dragon Age is taking up most of my free time.
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Postby Hossaim » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:48 am

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Postby Norstal » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:48 am

Mhykael wrote:
Pretty much what I'm hearing is, It's a bad idea, It's not the right time, I'm to lazy..etc. as a general synopsis.

So the next logical question I guess to ask would be if it's not a good idea then what's a better idea? Voting doesn't work because regardless of what political spectrum you fall under the political parties are generally so polarizing that the government is either going to gorge itself giving away benefits and welfare or get a nasty disorder where by it stops almost all "non-essential" funding, which ends up being essential and causing problems also.

Voting works. That's all I'm gonna say. Give me one source that shows voting doesn't work in the U.S and I'll become an anarchist. Until then, voting works.

I mean seriously, your chief complain is that the government gives away benefits and not give away benefits. That's an antithesis.
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Postby PrncssOfCuddles » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:08 am

Norstal wrote:
Mhykael wrote:
Pretty much what I'm hearing is, It's a bad idea, It's not the right time, I'm to lazy..etc. as a general synopsis.

So the next logical question I guess to ask would be if it's not a good idea then what's a better idea? Voting doesn't work because regardless of what political spectrum you fall under the political parties are generally so polarizing that the government is either going to gorge itself giving away benefits and welfare or get a nasty disorder where by it stops almost all "non-essential" funding, which ends up being essential and causing problems also.

Voting works. That's all I'm gonna say. Give me one source that shows voting doesn't work in the U.S and I'll become an anarchist. Until then, voting works.

I mean seriously, your chief complain is that the government gives away benefits and not give away benefits. That's an antithesis.

Only the rich can afford to get elected. It's a broken system.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:11 am

Mhykael wrote:Hypothetical situation here, (for now) Why haven't you personally revolted yet? The world in the state that it is in now is at critical mass. If things don't change soon it's very likely all our countries will get dragged under via a domino effect. This will most likely be caused by the loss of major economies and or over inflation of the surviving economies. Or the straight out loss of the core economic areas of particular countries. (Japan, America and possibly the Middle East.)

So my question is, why haven't you joined the other people who have gathered around the world and have collectively said "f*@( this, if we're going down we're taking you with us." What would it take for you to be that person one day? Are you waiting for the Atomic Bomb? Because in my Opinion that is WAY to late. That's end game theoretically. What would it take for you to fight and take back the Earth for you and the rest of the planet before it's to late?

I am not revolting Per Se, I am smuggling in Automatic weapons, RPGs, LAWs, and even a few tanks, and selling them to right wing militant groups. That is as far as I ever want me revolting to go, anything more is unprofitable.
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Postby Norstal » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:17 am

PrncssOfCuddles wrote:
Norstal wrote:Voting works. That's all I'm gonna say. Give me one source that shows voting doesn't work in the U.S and I'll become an anarchist. Until then, voting works.

I mean seriously, your chief complain is that the government gives away benefits and not give away benefits. That's an antithesis.

Only the rich can afford to get elected. It's a broken system.

Although that's true in the Federal level, I think there's many middle-class politicians in the state level. But at the very base of it, even taken to the extremes, politicians do care about poor people in one way or another, albeit a little misguided.
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Postby Motuka » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:21 am

It shouldn't come as a shock that most people don't favour revolting. The spark that led to enlightenment might well be short-circuited, leaving us all delighted. It could even prove to be an electrifying experience -- and current events demonstrate that the US is hardly a powerhouse, just waiting for a conductor to multiply force and distance. Revolting is, in short, unworkable.
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Postby Mhykael » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:26 pm

Thank you to the last few posters who have actually read and posted decent comments on the situation. I just want to understand more about why this is happening in other places and particularly what kind of mindset the people would have to have for this to become a reality. So rioting is pretty much a last ditch, all-or-nothing action.

Is anyone worried that the instability in the major oil producing countries will drastically effect the nations ability to function properly? I live in the south and you pretty much have to drive on the highway a good mile before you get anywhere. That doesn't sound bad but when you work 30 miles away and your burning 3 gallons just to get to work and back one day that adds up at almost 3.50 a gallon.

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Postby Gallavon » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:26 pm

If we completely ran out of oil in an instant, things would be pretty bad, and the outcome would be pretty catastrophic, but that simply won't happen. While we're going to start to run low on it soon, the main reason we don't have renewable energy sources powering everything is because of the stranglehold oil barons have on the market. Once it becomes profitable to use clean energy, or the Americans practiced what they preached and let the free market decide it, we'll see new technologies fixing this energy thing pretty rapidly. Granted, I know very little about all of the technicals of this, but I do know there are renewable sources out there, and lots of them, that just plain aren't being used. Hell, some students made a car run on solar power alone a while back.
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