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What do you think?

We must implement this strategy immediately, write your congressmen people!
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It's mediocre at best, after all the doctors need more than just dicks. They need like, hearts and elbows and shit.
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Let's allow the sexual deviants some grace period, maybe they'll repent and want to have kids?
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Just ignore them, they'll see the truth eventually
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I disagree. Sterilization would cost too much.
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Can you really categorize rapists with gays/This poll is biased/This takes away their human rights
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:14 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Tehraan wrote:Serializing doens't stop sexual urges :palm:


Oh yes it does. Hormones are produced in the genital system and removing said system gets rid of the hormone's.


How does hormones control what a person thinks about?

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:14 pm

Thalosind wrote:Sterilization != Castration

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Great first post. Just genius. I see the evil of my ways now!

/sarcasm

Unless it was one of the regulars' puppets?
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Postby Takaram » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:15 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Thalosind wrote:Sterilization != Castration

l2biology
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Great first post. Just genius. I see the evil of my ways now!

/sarcasm

Unless it was one of the regulars' puppets?


Whoever it is, they pretty much boiled your thread down to it's essential core. Trolling.

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Postby New Unsociety » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:15 pm

Agree about rapists.
But if someone is gay,why do you care???
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Postby Ursiroth » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:15 pm

CHEMICAL CASTRATION FOR CONVICTED PEDOPHILES YES.
(that is, pre-pubescent pedophilia)

Otherwise, trollin' trollin' trollin', keep them trolls a trollin'
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Postby Roman Cilicia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:15 pm

Vyan wrote:
So... you would be ok with the government sterilizing all religous folks, since their indocteration of their children at an early age heavly interfers with their freedom of religon? Same principle.

Besides, I concider religon a mental abnormality, maybe we can cure that too!


One is sexual deviency - a major problem.

The other is sexual morality, a general good.

Furthermore the Psychologist Organization has said that religion can't be considered an illness.
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Postby Tehraan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:16 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Tehraan wrote:Serializing doens't stop sexual urges :palm:


Oh yes it does. Hormones are produced in the genital system and removing said system gets rid of the hormone's.


it's not that simple, people who are sterilized still have sexual urges.

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:16 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:
Oh yes it does. Hormones are produced in the genital system and removing said system gets rid of the hormone's.


How does hormones control what a person thinks about?


Oh they do, comrade, they do.

Ever read Clockwork Orange?

I could dredge up the psychologists' reports, maybe in a bit though.
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Postby Underium » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:16 pm

Vyan wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:So I've been reading the "gay life" and "sexual urges" threads recently, which have made me question my beliefs and really take a new look at things.

I gave this a lot of thought today in particular, and after much internal debate I came up with a solution that I think would be acceptable to all:

Sterilization.

Ok I know this is a bit controversial but just bear with me for a second.

So we all know that sex offenders and sexual deviants are a major problem. If we lobbied the government to mandatorially sterilize them, then that problem would be solved. Rapists, homosexuals, child pornographers, furries etc. would all be without their horrible urges.

Also, I know that the medical community is clamoring for the right to dissect cadavers now, we could placate them by giving them all the lobbed-off dicks balls and vaginas to study!

As an added bonus, with all the genital dissecting that would be going on, the scientists might finally find a cure for all these sexual abnormalities and then all the people that are currently deviant would be made normal again.

It's killing three birds with one stone! Who's with me?


So... you would be ok with the government sterilizing all religous folks, since their indocteration of their children at an early age heavly interfers with their freedom of religon? Same principle.

Besides, I concider religon a mental abnormality, maybe we can cure that too!

Are you crazy? HELL NO! Dont sterilize the religious, just take away their bibles and burn them. Thats a more accurate comparison.

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Postby Peddieville » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:16 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Vyan wrote:
So... you would be ok with the government sterilizing all religous folks, since their indocteration of their children at an early age heavly interfers with their freedom of religon? Same principle.

Besides, I concider religon a mental abnormality, maybe we can cure that too!


One is sexual deviency - a major problem.

The other is sexual morality, a general good.

Furthermore the Psychologist Organization has said that religion can't be considered an illness.

Any objective reason for that.
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:17 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
How does hormones control what a person thinks about?


Oh they do, comrade, they do.

Ever read Clockwork Orange?

I could dredge up the psychologists' reports, maybe in a bit though.


You do realize Clockwork Orange is a fictional movie, (was it also a book?), right?

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:17 pm

Ursiroth wrote:CHEMICAL CASTRATION FOR CONVICTED PEDOPHILES YES.
(that is, pre-pubescent pedophilia)

Otherwise, trollin' trollin' trollin', keep them trolls a trollin'


Where do you draw the line?

What if they're attracted to just slightly pubescent children?

Either castrate all deviants or none of them.
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Postby Ursiroth » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Tehraan wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:
Oh yes it does. Hormones are produced in the genital system and removing said system gets rid of the hormone's.


it's not that simple, people who are sterilized still have sexual urges.


It is that simple. Sexual hormone glands are removed/made inert, no more sexual hormones, no more sexual urges.
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Postby Hresejnen » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Hresejnen wrote:I'm going to assume you're an imbecile. Even disregarding the fact that the sheer vagueness of who is deviant and who is not would mean it would be impossible for this system to not be abused, can you prove to me that sexual deviancy is a problem at all?


I can't, but psychiatrists can.

http://www.courtpsychiatrist.com/pdf/se ... viancy.pdf


That's a paper on sex crime, not sexual deviancy. Google does not solve everything. Instead, open up a copy of the DSM-IV TR. Notice that sexual orientations and paraphilias in and of themselves are not in there. Profit.

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Postby Manahakatouki » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:
Oh they do, comrade, they do.

Ever read Clockwork Orange?

I could dredge up the psychologists' reports, maybe in a bit though.


You do realize Clockwork Orange is a fictional movie, (was it also a book?), right?


I think so....
And so it was, that I had never changed.

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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Ursiroth wrote:CHEMICAL CASTRATION FOR CONVICTED PEDOPHILES YES.
(that is, pre-pubescent pedophilia)

Otherwise, trollin' trollin' trollin', keep them trolls a trollin'


Where do you draw the line?

What if they're attracted to just slightly pubescent children?

Either castrate all deviants or none of them.


What if the government want to castrate you base on your skin color, eye color, or hair color? What if they want to castrate you because you're handicapped or crippled? Where do YOU draw the line?

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Postby Vyan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Vyan wrote:
So... you would be ok with the government sterilizing all religous folks, since their indocteration of their children at an early age heavly interfers with their freedom of religon? Same principle.

Besides, I concider religon a mental abnormality, maybe we can cure that too!


One is sexual deviency - a major problem.

The other is sexual morality, a general good.

Furthermore the Psychologist Organization has said that religion can't be considered an illness.


1. I don't think sexual deviency is a major problem. No more then any other part of personality
2. Sexual "morality", artifcally created, and designed to enslave the minds of large numbers of people is a major problem
3. The same organization does not classify homosexuality as a mental "illness"
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:19 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:One is sexual deviency - a major problem.

Sexual deviency is not a major problem.
The other is sexual morality, a general good.

Ha.
Furthermore the Psychologist Organization has said that religion can't be considered an illness.

Homosexuality is also no longer included as a mental illness.
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Postby Hresejnen » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:19 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:
Oh they do, comrade, they do.

Ever read Clockwork Orange?

I could dredge up the psychologists' reports, maybe in a bit though.


You do realize Clockwork Orange is a fictional movie, (was it also a book?), right?


Clockwork Orange is one of my favourite books, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with hormones.

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:20 pm

Hresejnen wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:
I can't, but psychiatrists can.

http://www.courtpsychiatrist.com/pdf/se ... viancy.pdf


That's a paper on sex crime, not sexual deviancy. Google does not solve everything. Instead, open up a copy of the DSM-IV TR. Notice that sexual orientations and paraphilias in and of themselves are not in there. Profit.


It's titled Sexual Deviancy. I highly doubt it's not ;)
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Postby Hresejnen » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:21 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Hresejnen wrote:
That's a paper on sex crime, not sexual deviancy. Google does not solve everything. Instead, open up a copy of the DSM-IV TR. Notice that sexual orientations and paraphilias in and of themselves are not in there. Profit.


It's titled Sexual Deviancy. I highly doubt it's not ;)


...read it.

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Postby Blahem » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:21 pm

I take HUGE offense that you put me -- a homosexual -- in the class of rapists and child molesters. I think we might as well begin the sterilization of every Catholic, because, ya' know, all those Catholic priests are raping those little boys.
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Postby Roman Cilicia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:21 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
What if the government want to castrate you base on your skin color, eye color, or hair color? What if they want to castrate you because you're handicapped or crippled? Where do YOU draw the line?


I don't.

I wouldn't mind having members of the overbreeding minorities castrated, at least temporarily, but that's not the subject of this discussion and I don't like going off on cosines.
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:21 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Hresejnen wrote:
That's a paper on sex crime, not sexual deviancy. Google does not solve everything. Instead, open up a copy of the DSM-IV TR. Notice that sexual orientations and paraphilias in and of themselves are not in there. Profit.


It's titled Sexual Deviancy. I highly doubt it's not ;)


What's the point of arguing if you don't even read your own source? I believe this is appropriate.

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Postby Delmire » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:22 pm

If it turns out someone cried rape, would you try and glue it back on?

Its not illegal to be a homosexual, its not going to be, they wont want to be neutered, they cant be forced into it, it wont actually stop them being attarcted to the same sex, love is not produced 'from down there.' mentioning homosexuals in this thread is nothing but troll sir!

Same problem with child porno's, though i doubt love has anything to do with it.

no idea what a furrie is, not going to google it, but sounds cool!
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