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What do you think?

We must implement this strategy immediately, write your congressmen people!
3
4%
It's mediocre at best, after all the doctors need more than just dicks. They need like, hearts and elbows and shit.
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11%
Let's allow the sexual deviants some grace period, maybe they'll repent and want to have kids?
3
4%
Just ignore them, they'll see the truth eventually
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6%
I disagree. Sterilization would cost too much.
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9%
Can you really categorize rapists with gays/This poll is biased/This takes away their human rights
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Total votes : 70

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Blahem
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Postby Blahem » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:44 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Vyan wrote:
Um, not exactly. Polygamy can be female-based as well, it just has shown itself as male-based in the past. All polygamy is is one person having multipal spousis.

Please site an example of female based polygamy in history. I will wait for it.


http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/06/24/fem ... jail-time/

This is more modern. ;)
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Rhodmhire wrote:Well I'm sure that sooner or later you good denizens of Ohio will be able to convince Mr. Boehner (heh) to put a good word in so that you can start erecting (heh) some of those bars in Ohio, and maybe someday soon your State will think long (heh) and hard (heh) about legalizing same-sex and/or gator marriage all together.

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Roman Cilicia
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Postby Roman Cilicia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:44 pm

Ursiroth wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:
At what point do you consider puberty finished? Recent research suggests it continues up into the late teens (18, 19)


God, you're being difficult. Let's just say 16 and leave it at that. If you're mature enough to drive, you're mature enough for sexy tiems.


So a noticeable change happens when a 15.999 year old gains a day? That they're now magically able or mature enough to have sex and drive? :facepalm:
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:44 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:So a noticeable change happens when a 15.999 year old gains a day? That they're now magically able or mature enough to have sex and drive? :facepalm:

It's known as a 'Blanket law'.
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:45 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Ursiroth wrote:
God, you're being difficult. Let's just say 16 and leave it at that. If you're mature enough to drive, you're mature enough for sexy tiems.


So a noticeable change happens when a 15.999 year old gains a day? That they're now magically able or mature enough to have sex and drive? :facepalm:


Yep. The stars align and you get this awesome epiphany that tells you all these things.

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Postby Meryuma » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:47 pm

As someone who is completely comfortable with his non-heterosexuality, I advise you keep your Orwellian nightmare state far, far from my genitals.

There are so many problems with this: the conflation of violent crimes with harmless sexual desires, the chance of false arrests, the immense amount of taxpayer money needed for such a policy and the complete horror of castrating people for victimless crimes including possibly thoughtcrimes, the millions of victims who would've been leading happy, peaceful lives until this fucking horror of a policy came into place, possibly resulting in mass suicide in the streets.

Hopefully in your "utopia" I can obtain the necessary equipment to shoot the bastards who try to implement this the day they try to get their filthy hands anywhere near me.

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Blahem wrote:Well, you've heard right. Have you also heard that many governments are threatening to cut all trade with Uganda if they pass it?


Seriously? Is homosex really that important to our politicians? lol


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Vyan
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Postby Vyan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:47 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Vyan wrote:
Um, not exactly. Polygamy can be female-based as well, it just has shown itself as male-based in the past. All polygamy is is one person having multipal spousis.

Please site an example of female based polygamy in history. I will wait for it.


Please read this extraction from my post

-...it just has shown itself as male-based in the past...-

I never said it has happened as of yet, simply that it can be done. If Polygamy laws where inacted, woman could go out and marry multipal men just as men could marry multipal woman.
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Postby UCUMAY » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:48 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:Please site an example of female based polygamy in history. I will wait for it.

The ancient Britons, I believe, as well as Southern Arabia at one point.

http://books.google.com/books?id=HWAbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA154&lpg=PA154&dq=#v=onepage&q&f=false

Your source even says it's not reliable... I'm not impressed.
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Postby Meryuma » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:49 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:So a noticeable change happens when a 15.999 year old gains a day? That they're now magically able or mature enough to have sex and drive? :facepalm:

It's known as a 'Blanket law'.


And it forcibly stops voluntary action in the name of protecting some perceived majority against their will. It's also completely arbitrary, with no rational justification.
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Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:50 pm

Meryuma wrote: ... this fucking horror of a policy came into place, possibly resulting in mass suicide in the streets ...


Genocide leaves a bad taste in most people's mouth.



Yes I'm sure many people would commit suicide to show their solidarity with the gays /sarcasm

And Gays are not a "gens" - a race or род, so your argument is ill-founded.
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Postby UCUMAY » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:50 pm

Blahem wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:Please site an example of female based polygamy in history. I will wait for it.


http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/06/24/fem ... jail-time/

This is more modern. ;)

Fair enough... But do we base a behavior on the majority or the minority?
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I may be young, and that's okay. Since age does not always bring wisdom. I may be stubborn to the point of stupidity; but at least I fight for my beliefs. I may be fooled by a lie; but I can then say I trusted. My heart may get broken however, then I can say I truly loved. With all this said I have lived. :D

I'm politically syncretic so stop asking. :)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:50 pm

UCUMAY wrote:Your source even says it's not reliable... I'm not impressed.

Go wild.
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Postby Blahem » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:52 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Meryuma wrote: ... this fucking horror of a policy came into place, possibly resulting in mass suicide in the streets ...


Genocide leaves a bad taste in most people's mouth.



Yes I'm sure many people would commit suicide to show their solidarity with the gays /sarcasm

And Gays are not a "gens" - a race or род, so your argument is ill-founded.


We're not asking people to commit suicide to show solidarity. And gays are a population, duh. Just like African Americans, Jews, Christians, etc. THANK GOD your bigoted, hateful ideas are slowly dying in every new generation. You're part of a dying race, my friend.
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Rhodmhire wrote:Well I'm sure that sooner or later you good denizens of Ohio will be able to convince Mr. Boehner (heh) to put a good word in so that you can start erecting (heh) some of those bars in Ohio, and maybe someday soon your State will think long (heh) and hard (heh) about legalizing same-sex and/or gator marriage all together.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:53 pm

Meryuma wrote:And it forcibly stops voluntary action in the name of protecting some perceived majority against their will. It's also completely arbitrary, with no rational justification.

Actually, there is a rational justification. It's a matter of probability and an inability to reliable measure mental and physical maturity.
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Postby Blahem » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:53 pm

UCUMAY wrote:

Fair enough... But do we base a behavior on the majority or the minority?


You asked for an example. I provided one.
Matt is a left moderate social authoritarian. He is also a slight non-interventionist and culturally liberal. Matt's scores (from 0 to 10):
Economic issues: +7.22 left
Social issues: +1.51 authoritarian
Foreign policy: +2.45 non-interventionist
Cultural identification: +6.02 liberal

Rhodmhire wrote:Well I'm sure that sooner or later you good denizens of Ohio will be able to convince Mr. Boehner (heh) to put a good word in so that you can start erecting (heh) some of those bars in Ohio, and maybe someday soon your State will think long (heh) and hard (heh) about legalizing same-sex and/or gator marriage all together.

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Postby UCUMAY » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:54 pm

Blahem wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:Fair enough... But do we base a behavior on the majority or the minority?


You asked for an example. I provided one.

You provided a example, but please don't avoid the question.
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I may be young, and that's okay. Since age does not always bring wisdom. I may be stubborn to the point of stupidity; but at least I fight for my beliefs. I may be fooled by a lie; but I can then say I trusted. My heart may get broken however, then I can say I truly loved. With all this said I have lived. :D

I'm politically syncretic so stop asking. :)
My political and social missions

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Postby Motuka » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:57 pm

UnitedStatesOfAmerica- wrote:Is the OP for real?

The poll options are straight out of an inferior Hammurab knock-off.

lolol I said "straight"
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Postby Blahem » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:57 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Blahem wrote:
You asked for an example. I provided one.

You provided a example, but please don't avoid the question.


The majority of people aren't polygamous, so it's a minority for both men and women.
Matt is a left moderate social authoritarian. He is also a slight non-interventionist and culturally liberal. Matt's scores (from 0 to 10):
Economic issues: +7.22 left
Social issues: +1.51 authoritarian
Foreign policy: +2.45 non-interventionist
Cultural identification: +6.02 liberal

Rhodmhire wrote:Well I'm sure that sooner or later you good denizens of Ohio will be able to convince Mr. Boehner (heh) to put a good word in so that you can start erecting (heh) some of those bars in Ohio, and maybe someday soon your State will think long (heh) and hard (heh) about legalizing same-sex and/or gator marriage all together.

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Postby Meryuma » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:58 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Meryuma wrote: ... this fucking horror of a policy came into place, possibly resulting in mass suicide in the streets ...


Genocide leaves a bad taste in most people's mouth.



Yes I'm sure many people would commit suicide to show their solidarity with the gays /sarcasm

And Gays are not a "gens" - a race or род, so your argument is ill-founded.


I meant mass suicide by the gays who had their genitals removed by the state for expressing their natural desires.

Also, gays are a distinct population group with their own culture and everything. A people doesn't have to be an ethnicity.

Conserative Morality wrote:
Meryuma wrote:And it forcibly stops voluntary action in the name of protecting some perceived majority against their will. It's also completely arbitrary, with no rational justification.

Actually, there is a rational justification. It's a matter of probability and an inability to reliable measure mental and physical maturity.


1. One can't reliably measure maturity.
2. Therefore, one should measure maturity by age.

Logical contradiction.

Also, why must one be fully mature to consent to sex? IMO if you want to have sex, you're not being forced to have sex, you're not being tricked into having sex, and you know what sex is, you've consented.
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Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

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Postby UCUMAY » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:58 pm

Blahem wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:You provided a example, but please don't avoid the question.


The majority of people aren't polygamous, so it's a minority for both men and women.

Judge it based on its behavior. Of those who are polygamous the majority is 1 man and multiple wives not the other way around.
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About me
I may be young, and that's okay. Since age does not always bring wisdom. I may be stubborn to the point of stupidity; but at least I fight for my beliefs. I may be fooled by a lie; but I can then say I trusted. My heart may get broken however, then I can say I truly loved. With all this said I have lived. :D

I'm politically syncretic so stop asking. :)
My political and social missions

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Blahem
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Postby Blahem » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:00 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Blahem wrote:
The majority of people aren't polygamous, so it's a minority for both men and women.

Judge it based on its behavior. Of those who are polygamous the majority is 1 man and multiple wives not the other way around.


Proof?
Matt is a left moderate social authoritarian. He is also a slight non-interventionist and culturally liberal. Matt's scores (from 0 to 10):
Economic issues: +7.22 left
Social issues: +1.51 authoritarian
Foreign policy: +2.45 non-interventionist
Cultural identification: +6.02 liberal

Rhodmhire wrote:Well I'm sure that sooner or later you good denizens of Ohio will be able to convince Mr. Boehner (heh) to put a good word in so that you can start erecting (heh) some of those bars in Ohio, and maybe someday soon your State will think long (heh) and hard (heh) about legalizing same-sex and/or gator marriage all together.

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Postby Sociobiology » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:00 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:1/6 is not the norm. Don't be silly.

You can say that it's racial deviance to be white, since only 8% of people are white, but of course or superiority shows.

Ever think gays might be superior? After all, the Silver Band kicked ass.


gays do have more children statistically than exclusive heterosexuals.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:05 pm

The Nathi is disappoint.

When we see a troll, we do not feed it. We report it. Whereupon the Moderators will deal with it handily. As it stands, the lot of you have done nothing but encourage it and give it face time on the forums, for far, far longer than you should have.

Bad. Naughty.

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Now to go review the other thread wherein someone is accused of trollery. At which point we shall see if this is worth more than a note in file for now.

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