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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:42 pm

I know I shouldn't but this just makes me laugh. :lol2:
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Postby Norstal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:44 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Tradeing states wrote:As a former bully, (One day a kid fought back, hard!) I believe now, that both need punished.


Why the Hel do both need to be punished? The little shit started it, Casey let him slap him around some, block some of his shot and presumably asked him to stop before body slamming him. If anything, the little shit needs to be spanked, and spanked hard for being such a little shit.

Casey was NOT in the wrong on this one, and we have video evidence to prove it.

Hard to say. It was self-defense, but the retribution was not proportional. I can understand if the kid punch back, but a body slam is too much to me. Spanked yes. Body slammed no.

Especially when it has been shown the little kid is limping.
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:46 pm

Norstal wrote:
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Why the Hel do both need to be punished? The little shit started it, Casey let him slap him around some, block some of his shot and presumably asked him to stop before body slamming him. If anything, the little shit needs to be spanked, and spanked hard for being such a little shit.

Casey was NOT in the wrong on this one, and we have video evidence to prove it.

Hard to say. It was self-defense, but the retribution was not proportional. I can understand if the kid punch back, but a body slam is too much to me. Spanked yes. Body slammed no.

Especially when it has been shown the little kid is limping.


He just got rattled, being body slammed into the concrete will do that. I'm sure he's fine. If not, then what's one less bully in the school system?

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Postby Norstal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:46 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I know I shouldn't but this just makes me laugh. :lol2:

Yeah, it's quite funny. Have to say the guy is patient though. It was me, that kid would've been bleeding.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:49 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Norstal wrote:Hard to say. It was self-defense, but the retribution was not proportional. I can understand if the kid punch back, but a body slam is too much to me. Spanked yes. Body slammed no.

Especially when it has been shown the little kid is limping.


He just got rattled, being body slammed into the concrete will do that. I'm sure he's fine. If not, then what's one less bully in the school system?

I'll take your word for it. I know I teared open someone's lip after the fucker tried to choke me to death. So I'm against bullying as much as the next guy.
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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:49 pm

Norstal wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Why the Hel do both need to be punished? The little shit started it, Casey let him slap him around some, block some of his shot and presumably asked him to stop before body slamming him. If anything, the little shit needs to be spanked, and spanked hard for being such a little shit.

Casey was NOT in the wrong on this one, and we have video evidence to prove it.

Hard to say. It was self-defense, but the retribution was not proportional. I can understand if the kid punch back, but a body slam is too much to me. Spanked yes. Body slammed no.

Especially when it has been shown the little kid is limping.


A bunch of kids got together with a video camera thinking they would get to have a cool video of some "poor fat boy" getting his ass handed to him by the school bully. He stood there. He took it until he decided it was time to establish that he would not be messed with ever again. He made his point and walked away. I see nothing wrong with it.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:51 pm

Back when I was in grade school, there was a big 'self reliance' thing going on. Kids were told to 'work their problems out on their own.' Which, of course, directly conflicted with what my parents told me about not starting fights and going to get a teacher when things went wrong.

So one day, a couple of kids decided, during a 'bus evacuation drill', which I always thought were awesome since I lived about a hundred feet away from the school and never got to be on a bus otherwise, decided to begin kicking the back of my seat. Because the bus in question was rather ancient, without a hard backing to the seats, this was quite painful.

First, I turned around and told them to stop. Next, I raised a hand and was ignored. Finally I turned around and punched one of them in the forehead. Two seconds later I was being hauled off the bus and into the principles office where both of them tearfully testified that I had just suddenly turned around and hit the kid in the face for no reason.

And that was the start of my glorious career in being the scapegoat.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:53 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:
Norstal wrote:Hard to say. It was self-defense, but the retribution was not proportional. I can understand if the kid punch back, but a body slam is too much to me. Spanked yes. Body slammed no.

Especially when it has been shown the little kid is limping.


A bunch of kids got together with a video camera thinking they would get to have a cool video of some "poor fat boy" getting his ass handed to him by the school bully. He stood there. He took it until he decided it was time to establish that he would not be messed with ever again. He made his point and walked away. I see nothing wrong with it.

Indeed.

If he had walked up and started kicking the bully in the kidneys I'd say it was out of hand, but once he was sure that the kid's little pack of thugs weren't coming after him, he left.

The little bastard learned a valuable lesson, I'd say. He should be THANKING Casey.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:53 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:
Norstal wrote:Hard to say. It was self-defense, but the retribution was not proportional. I can understand if the kid punch back, but a body slam is too much to me. Spanked yes. Body slammed no.

Especially when it has been shown the little kid is limping.


A bunch of kids got together with a video camera thinking they would get to have a cool video of some "poor fat boy" getting his ass handed to him by the school bully. He stood there. He took it until he decided it was time to establish that he would not be messed with ever again. He made his point and walked away. I see nothing wrong with it.

I know, but I suppose a body slam to the concrete would make the message clearer than just a punch.

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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:56 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Back when I was in grade school, there was a big 'self reliance' thing going on. Kids were told to 'work their problems out on their own.' Which, of course, directly conflicted with what my parents told me about not starting fights and going to get a teacher when things went wrong.

So one day, a couple of kids decided, during a 'bus evacuation drill', which I always thought were awesome since I lived about a hundred feet away from the school and never got to be on a bus otherwise, decided to begin kicking the back of my seat. Because the bus in question was rather ancient, without a hard backing to the seats, this was quite painful.

First, I turned around and told them to stop. Next, I raised a hand and was ignored. Finally I turned around and punched one of them in the forehead. Two seconds later I was being hauled off the bus and into the principles office where both of them tearfully testified that I had just suddenly turned around and hit the kid in the face for no reason.

And that was the start of my glorious career in being the scapegoat.


Oh man, that sucks. Little liars. I got lucky in that everyone was so shocked to see me do damage after six years of being bullied that all who were present, including the girl with the bloody nose, verified that she started it, I looked for a teacher, and tried to keep distance between us until I got backed into a corner and broke her nose. Didn't work out too well for her parents when they tried to sue mine.
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Postby Planeta de los Muertos » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:01 pm

Little bastard (the bully) got what he deserved. Alas, the schools sometimes call the shots wrong when it comes to punishment...
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Postby The Grand World Order » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:03 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:Something similar happened to me when I was in first grade.

You get punished as the bigger person in a fight no matter that it was self defense...


Yeah, agreed. I got suspended for a week because I gave a kid a concussion after he got four of his friends and tried to "jump" me.
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Postby Planeta de los Muertos » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:04 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Something similar happened to me when I was in first grade.

You get punished as the bigger person in a fight no matter that it was self defense...


Yeah, agreed. I got suspended for a week because I gave a kid a concussion after he got four of his friends and tried to "jump" me.

I stabbed one of my bullies with a pencil...to the knee. Got suspended.
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Postby Shakal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:04 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:Oh man, that sucks. Little liars. I got lucky in that everyone was so shocked to see me do damage after six years of being bullied that all who were present, including the girl with the bloody nose, verified that she started it, I looked for a teacher, and tried to keep distance between us until I got backed into a corner and broke her nose. Didn't work out too well for her parents when they tried to sue mine.


Thats the annoying thing isnt it. They try and sue you because you defended yourself. I always was outnumbered at least 4 to 1 and now most people just talk shit about me behind my back because after they saw me get a 2x6 smashed over my head and me keep fighting they are to scared of me. They get there friends to block there numbers and call me with death threats though...

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Postby Eucides » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:05 pm

I snapped and broke a kid's nose.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:06 pm

Planeta de los Muertos wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:
Yeah, agreed. I got suspended for a week because I gave a kid a concussion after he got four of his friends and tried to "jump" me.

I stabbed one of my bullies with a pencil...to the knee. Got suspended.


I suppose the only time I've gotten away with self defense is when some kid broke his knuckles on my forehead, and shockingly, didn't hurt me at all. Being a 200lb, 6'0" weightlifter during my freshman in High School really deterred most people from EVER trying to fuck with me.
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Postby Planeta de los Muertos » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:07 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
Planeta de los Muertos wrote:I stabbed one of my bullies with a pencil...to the knee. Got suspended.


I suppose the only time I've gotten away with self defense is when some kid broke his knuckles on my forehead, and shockingly, didn't hurt me at all. Being a 200lb, 6'0" weightlifter during my freshman in High School really deterred most people from EVER trying to fuck with me.

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For falling in love with a physical avatar of Death, I was cursed with life. I pissed off a divine power so that I could be with her again, but it failed. After I got struck down by some powerful lighting, I came back to life...as a breathing corpse. Fuck.
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Postby Shakal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:08 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:I suppose the only time I've gotten away with self defense is when some kid broke his knuckles on my forehead, and shockingly, didn't hurt me at all. Being a 200lb, 6'0" weightlifter during my freshman in High School really deterred most people from EVER trying to fuck with me.


Ha yes. In High school I reached 250lbs and 6'2" but people still try even three years later now that I work out and perform hard physical activity all day. Its rather amusing.

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:08 pm

BABABOOM, BABABOOM, BABABOOM.

Meh, Gollum had it coming.

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Postby Babieca » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:11 pm

I am still in high school, and from my point of view we would have allot fewer problems if the schools let us solve our own problems. Every time they try and "help" they just make things either worse or blown way out of proportion. :palm:

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Postby Planeta de los Muertos » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:11 pm

The Rich Port wrote:BABABOOM, BABABOOM, BABABOOM.

Meh, Gollum had it coming.

Holy crap! What's he doing in school? Shouldn't he be stealing rings of power or some shit?
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For falling in love with a physical avatar of Death, I was cursed with life. I pissed off a divine power so that I could be with her again, but it failed. After I got struck down by some powerful lighting, I came back to life...as a breathing corpse. Fuck.
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Postby Shakal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:11 pm

The Rich Port wrote:BABABOOM, BABABOOM, BABABOOM.

Meh, Gollum had it coming.



HA YES! I was waiting for someone to say this. xD

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Postby Norstal » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:12 pm

Babieca wrote:I am still in high school, and from my point of view we would have allot fewer problems if the schools let us solve our own problems. Every time they try and "help" they just make things either worse or blown way out of proportion. :palm:

Then you're not doing it right.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:13 pm

Babieca wrote:I am still in high school, and from my point of view we would have allot fewer problems if the schools let us solve our own problems. Every time they try and "help" they just make things either worse or blown way out of proportion. :palm:


... No.

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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:14 pm

Norstal wrote:
Babieca wrote:I am still in high school, and from my point of view we would have allot fewer problems if the schools let us solve our own problems. Every time they try and "help" they just make things either worse or blown way out of proportion. :palm:

Then you're not doing it right.


The problem is that schools don't want lawsuits, and they don't want another Columbine, so they make the worse policy decision based on fear.

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