Love, Dating, Sex, and Marriage

[Lyuboftopia]

Monogamy prevents STDs. This is not rocket science.

Reduces the risk. Not prevents.

Exactly!

[Tokos]

Reduces the risk. Not prevents.

You know what the S stands for, aye? If two people are having sex with each other only they aren't spreading STDs. This is not opinion, it's logic.

[Norstal]

Not to mention monogamy doesn't mean your partner can't cheat on you.

Then that's not monogamy, is it?

Yes, well, what I meant was that your partner can cheat on you at anytime. But nevermind...

[Bottle]

Not to mention monogamy doesn't mean your partner can't cheat on you.

Then that's not monogamy, is it?

Monogamy can refer merely to the marriage form in which each partner has only one spouse at a time. It doesn't always refer to having only one mate at a time, although it is often used that way.

[Tokos]

Yes, well, what I meant was that your partner can cheat on you at anytime. But nevermind...

If you don't follow, say, British army rifle safety procedure correctly, then it's still reasonable to say that following that procedure does in fact prevent accidents. It says nothing about the procedure itself that following it incorrectly doesn't work!

[Grainne Ni Malley]

Then that's not monogamy, is it?

Monogamy can refer merely to the marriage form in which each partner has only one spouse at a time. It doesn't always refer to having only one mate at a time, although it is often used that way.

Well, if I got married under the guise of a monogamous relationship, discovered that my partner was cheating on me, and his response was, "But Honey, I'm only married to you!", we would have a serious problem. Perhaps a hospital bill.

But thanks for your persistence in enlightening me.

[Bottle]

Monogamy can refer merely to the marriage form in which each partner has only one spouse at a time. It doesn't always refer to having only one mate at a time, although it is often used that way.

Well, if I got married under the guise of a monogamous relationship, discovered that my partner was cheating on me, and his response was, "But Honey, I'm only married to you!", we would have a serious problem. Perhaps a hospital bill.

But thanks for your persistence in enlightening me.

Well yeah, I mean, I'm on board with you there. Just saying, it's possible to be "monogamous" according to the definition of the term, and still have affairs. Some people choose that form for their marriages, with the full consent of both parties. Which, hey, whatever works for them...it's not for me, but I'm a pretty dull person all things considered.

[Kobeanare]

Reduces the risk. Not prevents.

You know what the S stands for, aye? If two people are having sex with each other only they aren't spreading STDs. This is not opinion, it's logic.

...you get an STI from someone who is carrying an STI, not from the number of people you have sex with. It's entirely possible to sleep with 100 different people and come out clean, and equally possible to sleep with one person and contract something.

[Grave_n_idle]

It depends on the person and his/her convictions, really.

I advocate sex before marriage, so you know what it's like. However, I don't mind if others wish to wait to have sex after they marry.

I think it makes it out to be more than it is - and tends to encourage people to make bad decisions. If you're considering "yay, I might finally get laid" as one of your reasons for marriage, you're not making a great decision.

[Grave_n_idle]

I hope you know that you can get an STD during marriage, you do know that, right?
It's not like a magical guy in the sky gives people who have sex not in marriage an STD and people who are not. It just does not work that way!

Monogamy prevents STDs. This is not rocket science.

It's not science at all.

STDs can be acquired in other ways. The 'S' in STD doesn't necessarily indicate that actual fucking is the only possible vector of infection.

[Bottle]

Monogamy prevents STDs. This is not rocket science.

It's not science at all.

STDs can be acquired in other ways. The 'S' in STD doesn't necessarily indicate that actual fucking is the only possible vector of infection.

Not to mention that monogamy doesn't prevent STD transmission in any way...if you already have herpes and then you enter a monogamous relationship, it doesn't matter how faithful to your partner you are, you've still got herpes, and you still need to practice safe sex if you want to reduce your odds of passing herpes to your partner. If your partner gets herpes from you, it doesn't matter how monogamous they were, they still have herpes. Monogamy doesn't protect them. If they end their monogamous relationship with you and enter another monogamous relationship with somebody else, monogamy won't protect that person either.

[Grave_n_idle]

It's not science at all.

STDs can be acquired in other ways. The 'S' in STD doesn't necessarily indicate that actual fucking is the only possible vector of infection.

Not to mention that monogamy doesn't prevent STD transmission in any way...if you already have herpes and then you enter a monogamous relationship, it doesn't matter how faithful to your partner you are, you've still got herpes, and you still need to practice safe sex if you want to reduce your odds of passing herpes to your partner. If your partner gets herpes from you, it doesn't matter how monogamous they were, they still have herpes. Monogamy doesn't protect them. If they end their monogamous relationship with you and enter another monogamous relationship with somebody else, monogamy won't protect that person either.

Absolutely. But even if both partners (yes, I assumed just two) are celibate till marriage, and only sexually interact with one another - they can still have sexually transmitted diseases, and transfer diseases to one another.

There are so many other possible vectors, the 'monogamy prevents STD' argument is ridiculous.

[Bottle]

Not to mention that monogamy doesn't prevent STD transmission in any way...if you already have herpes and then you enter a monogamous relationship, it doesn't matter how faithful to your partner you are, you've still got herpes, and you still need to practice safe sex if you want to reduce your odds of passing herpes to your partner. If your partner gets herpes from you, it doesn't matter how monogamous they were, they still have herpes. Monogamy doesn't protect them. If they end their monogamous relationship with you and enter another monogamous relationship with somebody else, monogamy won't protect that person either.

Absolutely. But even if both partners (yes, I assumed just two) are celibate till marriage, and only sexually interact with one another - they can still have sexually transmitted diseases, and transfer diseases to one another.

There are so many other possible vectors, the 'monogamy prevents STD' argument is ridiculous.

Word. It's kind of scary to me how many people don't know this shit. Yes, you can have an STD even if you're a virgin. You can get some of the most serious STDs out there without having sex. Including (but not limited to):

HIV/AIDS
Herpes
Hepatitis
Syphilis
Genital warts
Public lice
Scabies

This has been your daily PSA from the WebMD of Fucking.

[Grave_n_idle]

Absolutely. But even if both partners (yes, I assumed just two) are celibate till marriage, and only sexually interact with one another - they can still have sexually transmitted diseases, and transfer diseases to one another.

There are so many other possible vectors, the 'monogamy prevents STD' argument is ridiculous.

Word. It's kind of scary to me how many people don't know this shit. Yes, you can have an STD even if you're a virgin. You can get some of the most serious STDs out there without having sex. Including (but not limited to):

HIV/AIDS
Herpes
Hepatitis
Syphilis
Genital warts
Public lice
Scabies

This has been your daily PSA from the WebMD of Fucking.

I'm so out of the loop, I didn't even know you could get a doctorate in it.

*nods*

[Fartsniffage]

Yes, well, what I meant was that your partner can cheat on you at anytime. But nevermind...

If you don't follow, say, British army rifle safety procedure correctly, then it's still reasonable to say that following that procedure does in fact prevent accidents. It says nothing about the procedure itself that following it incorrectly doesn't work!

The A1 or A2 model? Because the A1 model was a bit dodgy whether you followed them or not...

[Bottle]

Word. It's kind of scary to me how many people don't know this shit. Yes, you can have an STD even if you're a virgin. You can get some of the most serious STDs out there without having sex. Including (but not limited to):

HIV/AIDS
Herpes
Hepatitis
Syphilis
Genital warts
Public lice
Scabies

This has been your daily PSA from the WebMD of Fucking.

I'm so out of the loop, I didn't even know you could get a doctorate in it.

*nods*

I hold internet doctorates in fucking, psychoactive drug use, and Henry Rollins. /flex

[Yuktova]

Absolutely. But even if both partners (yes, I assumed just two) are celibate till marriage, and only sexually interact with one another - they can still have sexually transmitted diseases, and transfer diseases to one another.

There are so many other possible vectors, the 'monogamy prevents STD' argument is ridiculous.

That's what I'm saying and this idiot says "if your abstinent until marriage, then you won't get an STD!" What an idiot!
Word. It's kind of scary to me how many people don't know this shit. Yes, you can have an STD even if you're a virgin. You can get some of the most serious STDs out there without having sex. Including (but not limited to):

HIV/AIDS
Herpes
Hepatitis
Syphilis
Genital warts
Public lice
Scabies

This has been your daily PSA from the WebMD of Fucking.

[Rolamec]

In the past, I was rather promiscuous. I won't lie. I had sex a lot. However recently I returned back to the Church of Rome, with my convictions stronger than ever. I have to say that though I'm rather indifferent about others who do it, I have restrained myself considerably, especially since the beginning of Lent (where I said I would not engage in sex for 40 days -very much a struggle). I personally think the intention of sex within marriage is to preserve its beauty, sex is after all a great thing. But for some people, a test drive is in order. For some a relationship is mostly physical rather than anything else (it was with me for the longest of times). But I am looking for something deeper, something more meaningful, a girlfriend whom I can eventually call my wife. A woman who shares the same views I do in regards to faith, sex, and procreation. Perhaps I'm being rather sentimental about it all, but I fear I have developed a rather puritanical view towards it. But unlike Dimmesdale, I know that I am weak so I will not condemn others. I hate hypocrites above everything else. My beliefs are my own business, and nobody else's.

Dimmesdale Condemned only himself. It was the town that condemned Hester

Head getting banged against the headboard too much?

[Tokos]

Absolutely. But even if both partners (yes, I assumed just two) are celibate till marriage, and only sexually interact with one another - they can still have sexually transmitted diseases, and transfer diseases to one another.

There are so many other possible vectors, the 'monogamy prevents STD' argument is ridiculous.

This is true; I should have thought of it given I'm of a demographic quite likely to get those kinds of diseases out of sexual contact. I guess it wouldn't be transmitted sexually in those cases though. Something like, say, chlamydia, how often do people get that from something other than sex?

But yeah point taken.

[Yuktova]

Absolutely. But even if both partners (yes, I assumed just two) are celibate till marriage, and only sexually interact with one another - they can still have sexually transmitted diseases, and transfer diseases to one another.

There are so many other possible vectors, the 'monogamy prevents STD' argument is ridiculous.

This is true; I should have thought of it given I'm of a demographic quite likely to get those kinds of diseases out of sexual contact. I guess it wouldn't be transmitted sexually in those cases though. Something like, say, chlamydia, how often do people get that from something other than sex?

But yeah point taken.

It would be strange if someone got Chlamydia from something other than sex but I agree. Point Taken

[Corporate Cyborgs]

I say let people do what they want, even if I disapprove. Unless they're infringing on their partner's rights.

[Prussia-Denmark]

All I am going to say is this:

If sex in a relationship is bad then a good bit of the blame falls on the woman (read the rest before attacking me -> ) for not telling the guy how she likes it/or etc.
Males aren't psychic, which is something a lot of females I know don't seem to realize in this area of life until I point it out.

[Tokos]

All I am going to say is this:

If sex in a relationship is bad then a good bit of the blame falls on the woman (read the rest before attacking me -> ) for not telling the guy how she likes it/or etc.
Males aren't psychic, which is something a lot of females I know don't seem to realize in this area of life until I point it out.

Women do love the psychic male, but bad sex doesn't just have to be from the woman's POV surely.

[AETEN II]

lol seeing as I'm 16 years old an never had a girlfriend (I really don't 'love' anyone, never have really) and the fact every female in my age group that I have met in person I tend to be lacking in the smarts area. Well, so far, no sex, dates, crushes, nuthin'. Hopefully in college I'll meet someone who looks good and is smart.

[Ethel mermania]

Reduces the risk. Not prevents.

You know what the S stands for, aye? If two people are having sex with each other only they aren't spreading STDs. This is not opinion, it's logic.

No absolutely incorrect!

There are diseases and conditions that can be acquired in one way and then transmitted sexually. AIDS for example. A monogamous Intravenous drug user can pass AIDS to their faithful spouse AND KILL THEM.