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Makiir
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Postby Makiir » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:39 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
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There was a perfect reason. 9 was an unplayable piece of crap, 10 could have been good but the Character and plot were so terrible that it scared people away, 10-2 is 10-2 nuff said.

After that they had to reinvent the series or kill it for ever so with 11 they went with the MMORPG approach which didn't work, so with 12 they tried an action RPG kind of thing which had so serious potential but not in an FF game. and when they went back to the roots with 13 they shot themselves in the foot with every other aspect of the game. and now apparently there trying the MMO thing again now that WoW is coming to a close.

They tried to make 12 into a playing style similar to Kingdom Hearts.



Have you even played either of those games? 12 was pretty much a turned based game without true turns and with the ability to move around. KH is a hack and slash with RPG elements

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Postby Wiztopia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:42 pm

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I bet you will edit my post again after saying this ( :roll: ) but here goes. 12 sucked because they changed it to action RPG for no fucking reason.



There was a perfect reason. 9 was an unplayable piece of crap, 10 could have been good but the Character and plot were so terrible that it scared people away, 10-2 is 10-2 nuff said.

After that they had to reinvent the series or kill it for ever so with 11 they went with the MMORPG approach which didn't work, so with 12 they tried an action RPG kind of thing which had so serious potential but not in an FF game. and when they went back to the roots with 13 they shot themselves in the foot with every other aspect of the game. and now apparently there trying the MMO thing again now that WoW is coming to a close.


9 was better than 10. I doubt you ever tried to play it. They ruined it by trying to change the formula that made games like FF6 pure awesomness. Also WoW will never come to a close.

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Mosasauria
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:42 pm

Makiir wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:They tried to make 12 into a playing style similar to Kingdom Hearts.



Have you even played either of those games? 12 was pretty much a turned based game without true turns and with the ability to move around. KH is a hack and slash with RPG elements

Hence why I said similar. And yes, I have played Kingdom Hearts heavily, and I have played 12.
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Mosasauria
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:43 pm

For me, after FFX, all Final Fantasy games turned to crap. Only FFXII was okay to me. XIII made me want to kill myself for being an FF fan.
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Postby Wiztopia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:44 pm

Makiir wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:They tried to make 12 into a playing style similar to Kingdom Hearts.



Have you even played either of those games? 12 was pretty much a turned based game without true turns and with the ability to move around. KH is a hack and slash with RPG elements


Which is why it was shit. If they wanted to try to copy something with similar gameplay then they should have gone with Star Ocean style RPG.

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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:46 pm

Wiztopia wrote:
Makiir wrote:

Have you even played either of those games? 12 was pretty much a turned based game without true turns and with the ability to move around. KH is a hack and slash with RPG elements


Which is why it was shit. If they wanted to try to copy something with similar gameplay then they should have gone with Star Ocean style RPG.

Or maybe Star Wars KOTR
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Postby Upchucabawa » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:06 pm

Metroid: Other M

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Postby Minoriteeburg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:08 pm

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Postby Catholic Sebastian » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:21 pm

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Srsly, it was. It was for everyone who had played SC3000 and SC4. Instead of creating cities you'd pick a number of buildings from a list and place them randomly next to a road. After that ypu wait until your city gets a "theme", and then... Well, that's pretty much it. Boring...

Plus, the lag was epic because every citizen and every building was animated and in 3D... Whilst the graphics were still worse then the 3D seen in SC4.

Argeed that sh#t of a game send a virus to my first computer. DAMN IT!!!!!! :palm: And the graphics were hoooorrible. Even a sumo wreserler's ASS would look better than SimCity Socities.

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Postby Norstal » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:23 pm

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Postby The Corparation » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:26 pm

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French Union wrote:I'm adding homefront to my list. Its like a bad version of Bad Company 2 on hardcore mode with servers from hell.


Well that sucks, the trailer made homefront look like an interesting concept, where we have to play as terrorist in an occupied country.

Apparently that's just in the single-palyer. Multi-player takes place before the military collapses. Apparently an innovative multiplayer is the only thing semi-worthwhile in the game.
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:56 pm

Josh Sinister wrote:If programming were easier, wouldn't I have made a game by now? Wouldn't the oligopoly video game publishers hold just not exist? Wouldn't there be more small video game companies? Why are there only 639 Xbox 360 games in its entire library? Wouldn't there be more auteurs? If it's not programming, why do all these problems exist?

If games were easy to make, why wouldn't more games, overall, exist?
Maybe I should have said, "games take longer to make because of programming".


That's awful reasoning. I mean, for that matter, why haven't you made a film by now? Or a space shuttle?

Besides, programming isn't even half of development. Graphics take up just as much time. Plus level design, writing, audio, all the other crap. It's not just "programming is to blame for everything!".
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Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:05 pm

French Union wrote:I'm adding homefront to my list. Its like a bad version of Bad Company 2 on hardcore mode with servers from hell.


I just can't bring myself to play a game with such a profoundly idiotic story.

Although I've suggested that the sequel be named "Homefront 2: Kiribati Attacks!".

Mosasauria wrote:For me, after FFX, all Final Fantasy games turned to crap. Only FFXII was okay to me. XIII made me want to kill myself for being an FF fan.


I'm having that discussion with a friend right now.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Mosasauria
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:09 pm

Godzilla: Save the Earth. Yes, it had more characters than Destroy All Monsters: Melee.
However, the graphics were somehow grainier and the movement was even more restrictive, not to mention the failure of the 'missions'.
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Postby Arkinesia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:56 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
French Union wrote:I'm adding homefront to my list. Its like a bad version of Bad Company 2 on hardcore mode with servers from hell.


Well that sucks, the trailer made homefront look like an interesting concept, where we have to play as terrorist in an occupied country.

Well it was one of those games that nailed the plot thing, and fucked up the whole gameplay thing, evidently. Every review raves the plot and assaults the gameplay.
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Postby Lunar Rai » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:07 pm

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:21 pm

Makiir wrote:9 was an unplayable piece of crap


Lul wut? 9 was one of the best in the series.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Guervoy Imperiya » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:22 pm

CoD Modern Warfare 2 and Homefront. I am so sick and tired with everyone thinking a Red Army from Russia, China or North Korea is going to invade. North Korea isn't even Communist anymore, they're Juche!

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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:22 pm

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Makiir wrote:9 was an unplayable piece of crap


Lul wut? 9 was one of the best in the series.

I love how people seem to hate 9 and 8. While 8 is bad past Laguna Loire, 9 is amazing.
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:56 pm

Mosasauria wrote:I love how people seem to hate 9 and 8. While 8 is bad past Laguna Loire, 9 is amazing.


I think 9 cops shit because it's not "cool and dark" like 7 and 8 were.

I didn't like 8, though. The game play was shattered by the godawful Junction system. Also, Squall was the predecessor of Tidus and Vaan, so we know who to blame.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:00 pm

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I love how people seem to hate 9 and 8. While 8 is bad past Laguna Loire, 9 is amazing.


I think 9 cops shit because it's not "cool and dark" like 7 and 8 were.

I didn't like 8, though. The game play was shattered by the godawful Junction system. Also, Squall was the predecessor of Tidus and Vaan, so we know who to blame.

The game started to suck after you could no longer play as Laguna, the man who wields the machine gun and controls gravity.
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Postby Arkinesia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:11 pm

Guervoy Imperiya wrote:CoD Modern Warfare 2 and Homefront. I am so sick and tired with everyone thinking a Red Army from Russia, China or North Korea is going to invade. North Korea isn't even Communist anymore, they're Juche!

DPRK was never communist to begin with ffs.
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Postby Norstal » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:17 pm

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Josh Sinister wrote:If programming were easier, wouldn't I have made a game by now? Wouldn't the oligopoly video game publishers hold just not exist? Wouldn't there be more small video game companies? Why are there only 639 Xbox 360 games in its entire library? Wouldn't there be more auteurs? If it's not programming, why do all these problems exist?

If games were easy to make, why wouldn't more games, overall, exist?
Maybe I should have said, "games take longer to make because of programming".


That's awful reasoning. I mean, for that matter, why haven't you made a film by now? Or a space shuttle?

Besides, programming isn't even half of development. Graphics take up just as much time. Plus level design, writing, audio, all the other crap. It's not just "programming is to blame for everything!".

Yes, well, the thing about programming is that it is the costliest part of any software. Programs must be maintained as long as it can. There's also documentation problems and other things.

However, during the development of the game, drawing, modeling, coding, music, and other things are all equally hard.
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:31 pm

Norstal wrote:Yes, well, the thing about programming is that it is the costliest part of any software. Programs must be maintained as long as it can. There's also documentation problems and other things.


Disagree. The most expensive would definitely be technology. Buying technology, buying equipment, that kind of think. Programming is just... labour.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Meryuma » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:45 pm

Makiir wrote: KH is a hack and slash with RPG elements


Same with the Crystal Chronicles games, I think. At least the first one, which is the only one I've played.

Did nobody play that? Or do people ITT just have the common decency to not say that an enjoyable and rather innovative game sucks?

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I love how people seem to hate 9 and 8. While 8 is bad past Laguna Loire, 9 is amazing.


I think 9 cops shit because it's not "cool and dark" like 7 and 8 were.

I didn't like 8, though. The game play was shattered by the godawful Junction system. Also, Squall was the predecessor of Tidus and Vaan, so we know who to blame.


You're annoyed at Tidus and Vaan for being whiny and having no personality, right?

Because it would be just plain stupid to bash them for being androgynous.

Guervoy Imperiya wrote:CoD Modern Warfare 2 and Homefront. I am so sick and tired with everyone thinking a Red Army from Russia, China or North Korea is going to invade. North Korea isn't even Communist anymore, they're Juche!


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