Video Games That Shouldn't Have Been Made

[Abdju]

Don't play much modern stuff, but there are a shed load of older bit era stuff that was a huge mistake:

* Back to the Future II (Mega Drive). Played it once. It was painful.
* Super Monaco GP (Game Gear). Nothing about the game could in any way be said to be good.
* Ecco: Defender of the Future (Dreamcast). Pretty, but trashes the narrative of the originals.
* G-LOC (Master System). End of level bosses in a combat flight sim? WTF?
* Turbo Outrun (Mega Drive). No. Just no.
* Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy (Jaguar). Trevor McFur? Srsly? Oh, and some sound would be nice
* Club Drive (Jaguar). Kill it. Kill it with fire.

You owned a Jaguar and a Master System?

Actually, I'm mostly an Atarian. I had most Atari systems (2600, 7800, Lynx and Jaguar consoles, and 800XL, ST, TT030 and Falcon computers), but I also had a Mega Drive, and picked up a Master System converter for it. Jaguar had some damn fine games... Tempest 2000 was awesome, Doom on the Jag was great, being cart based, and Kasumi Ninja was good fun, as was Defender 2000. AvP had spectacular graphics but I found it less fun than Doom.

[Minoriteeburg]

You owned a Jaguar and a Master System?

Actually, I'm mostly an Atarian. I had most Atari systems (2600, 7800, Lynx and Jaguar consoles, and 800XL, ST, TT030 and Falcon computers), but I also had a Mega Drive, and picked up a Master System converter for it. Jaguar had some damn fine games... Tempest 2000 was awesome, Doom on the Jag was great, being cart based, and Kasumi Ninja was good fun, as was Defender 2000. AvP had spectacular graphics but I found it less fun than Doom.

Doom on the Jag was the best console version of DOOM ever made.

[Kazomal]

Modern Warfare 2.

Call of Duty is supposed to be "realistic". In Modern Warfare, you were just a bunch of "normal" soldiers shooting people with above-average accurasy. In Modern Warfare 2, you're basically Spartans that lost your armor when you left the Haloverse. They should have just left the Modern Warfare name alone after the first game.

I hear MW5 is supposed to be the most realistic yet. The first 200 hours of gameplay involves loading and unloading gear, then you randomly get killed by a roadside bomb, the disk erases it's self, and ejects from your counsel, leaving you with a worthless plastic circle.

[Minoriteeburg]

Modern Warfare 2.

Call of Duty is supposed to be "realistic". In Modern Warfare, you were just a bunch of "normal" soldiers shooting people with above-average accurasy. In Modern Warfare 2, you're basically Spartans that lost your armor when you left the Haloverse. They should have just left the Modern Warfare name alone after the first game.

I hear MW5 is supposed to be the most realistic yet. The first 200 hours of gameplay involves loading and unloading gear, then you randomly get killed by a roadside bomb, the disk erases it's self, and ejects from your counsel, leaving you with a worthless plastic circle.

Actually a blank disc would be worth more to me.

[Sdaeriji]

As for my personal choice, I would have to say World of Warcraft, simply because ever since WoW success, every other MMORPG company has been trying to cash in on the success with WoW clones, and the MMORPG market has become over saturated with WoW Clones. However, I think the WoW Clones are starting to die off, which is good.

I've never understood this.

"WoW is widely successful and immensely popular, therefore it is (not a REAL videogame)(a BAD videogame)(a hideous thing that ought never to have been)."

Huh?

Look, there's lots of shit wrong with WoW, and I'm annoyed with the clones as much as anybody, but WoW is one of the best things to happen to gaming in my lifetime. Why? Because it's the game that got people who don't play videogames to start playing videogames. It's widely popular with groups who, in the past, were pushed out of the gaming community, like older players and female players. That's a good thing. That's something the industry should learn from.

WoW also is the game that "teaches" people to play RPGs nowadays. There's a reason why everyone copies the WoW UI, and it's not because the WoW UI is so damn brilliant...it's because everyone, including the people who rag on WoW, has played with the WoW UI. Half the people who play RPGs at this point probably learned on the WoW UI.

There SHOULD be attempts to 'clone' the success of WoW, it's just that for some reason most companies don't seem to get what the successful parts of WoW really are. They're focused on cloning the fantasy elements, or the graphical look of the game, or the grindy nature of the content, which is totally off base.

Anyhow, to answer the OP question directly, the only games that I think shouldn't be made are the ones that get made just because a big-name movie is coming out and they want to try to cash in further. Those games go almost directly into landfills, which is bad for the environment.

I think the complaint is that, when a game is as outrageously successful as WoW, it stifles creativity and innovation in the industry, as everyone trips over themselves to try and copy their model. Instead of going and making new games, they're struggling to figure out how they can best rip off what is selling, and like you said, the vast, vast majority end up ripping off the wrong aspects or otherwise completely miss the point of why the game they're copying is successful.

[Abdju]

any Sim City after 2000.

Sim City 4 had some good additions, (subways were better, scalable funding for utilities were better, allowed for more some redundancy in the systems, and support for avenues was a huge bonus, city planning wise) but the animated characters were annoying, and the terraforming tool was woeful.

[Minoriteeburg]

any Sim City after 2000.

Sim City 4 had some good additions, (subways were better, scalable funding for utilities were better, allowed for more some redundancy in the systems, and support for avenues was a huge bonus, city planning wise) but the animated characters were annoying, and the terraforming tool was woeful.

exactly why 2000 is the best. Sure it may not have the new perks and tweaks like the newer versions....but it doesn't have all the junk that the new ones have either.

I would like to run my city without stupid animated characters getting in the way.

[Flibbleites]

Let's have a contest here. Can anyone name a video game so crappy, Uwe Boll would refuse to make a movie out of it?

I'm surprised no one's thought to make a Final Fantasy movie. After the suckcess of Twilight, you'd think more people would have jumped on the "mopey yaoi bullshit" bandwagon.

Actually there have been two Final Fantasy movies.
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children

[Minoriteeburg]

I'm surprised no one's thought to make a Final Fantasy movie. After the suckcess of Twilight, you'd think more people would have jumped on the "mopey yaoi bullshit" bandwagon.

Actually there have been two Final Fantasy movies.
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children

Spirits Within was absolute shite. Advent Children was so-so.

[Sanguinthium]

the 'SAW' series of games. the movies were acceptable, but the games were just gay.

[Beersteins]

As for my personal choice, I would have to say World of Warcraft, simply because ever since WoW success, every other MMORPG company has been trying to cash in on the success with WoW clones, and the MMORPG market has become over saturated with WoW Clones. However, I think the WoW Clones are starting to die off, which is good.

So, What are your video games that should have never been made?

A bit ignorant, WoW WAS one of the mass clones of a very very saturated genre of games that are all more or less the same. I wish it was never made too, same goes for CoD which was a huge step backward in FPS's yet somehow popular due to advertising and fanboys.

[Wiztopia]

the columbine shotting rpg........they did make it


it should be destroyed

Why?

Dude, any age is too old for Jimmy Neutron.

Ya got me there.

the columbine shotting rpg........they did make it


it should be destroyed

I beat it.

I almost beat it but died and got distracted then eventually I forgot about it.

[Socialist States Owen]

c&c 4 twilight.
No Scrin.
Bad Story.
Bad Graphics.

CNC died after Renegade.

CNC died when Generals was released.

EA Games - Fuck up everything.

[Minoriteeburg]

the 'SAW' series of games. the movies were acceptable, but the games were just gay.

I only played the demos and that was enough.

[Kazomal]

As for my personal choice, I would have to say World of Warcraft, simply because ever since WoW success, every other MMORPG company has been trying to cash in on the success with WoW clones, and the MMORPG market has become over saturated with WoW Clones. However, I think the WoW Clones are starting to die off, which is good.

So, What are your video games that should have never been made?

A bit ignorant, WoW WAS one of the mass clones of a very very saturated genre of games that are all more or less the same. I wish it was never made too, same goes for CoD which was a huge step backward in FPS's yet somehow popular due to advertising and fanboys.

I do like the fast-paced multiplayer and the low health. I always used to play Goldeneye with 1 hit kill on.

[Salvem el Mon]

I've never understood this.

"WoW is widely successful and immensely popular, therefore it is (not a REAL videogame)(a BAD videogame)(a hideous thing that ought never to have been)."

Huh?

WoW isn't bad because it's popular. WoW is bad because it was designed by a chimp.

Look, there's lots of shit wrong with WoW, and I'm annoyed with the clones as much as anybody, but WoW is one of the best things to happen to gaming in my lifetime. Why? Because it's the game that got people who don't play videogames to start playing videogames. It's widely popular with groups who, in the past, were pushed out of the gaming community, like older players and female players. That's a good thing. That's something the industry should learn from.

I don't see why we should have to dumb our medium down for non-gamers.

[Patriqvinia]

X-Com Enforcer...

[Gauntleted Fist]

Anything recent (like the past two years) from Atlus, because fuck Atlus.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

I've never understood this.

"WoW is widely successful and immensely popular, therefore it is (not a REAL videogame)(a BAD videogame)(a hideous thing that ought never to have been)."

Huh?

WoW isn't bad because it's popular. WoW is bad because it was designed by a chimp.

Look, there's lots of shit wrong with WoW, and I'm annoyed with the clones as much as anybody, but WoW is one of the best things to happen to gaming in my lifetime. Why? Because it's the game that got people who don't play videogames to start playing videogames. It's widely popular with groups who, in the past, were pushed out of the gaming community, like older players and female players. That's a good thing. That's something the industry should learn from.

I don't see why we should have to dumb our medium down for non-gamers.

This.

Most MMOs, casual games, and Nintendo are killing the game industry.

What used to be a creative outlet for intelligent people has become a cesspool of garbage like WoW, Mass Effect, and Call of Duty.

[Josh Sinister]

WoW isn't bad because it's popular. WoW is bad because it was designed by a chimp.



I don't see why we should have to dumb our medium down for non-gamers.

This.

Most MMOs, casual games, and Nintendo are killing the game industry.

What used to be a creative outlet for intelligent people has become a cesspool of garbage like WoW, Mass Effect, and Call of Duty.

Actually, the games industry needs "Casual" games to expand. What you just described is a byproduct of the video game industry economically contracting (because the developers want to make it a maturated medium by ignoring children and normal people). Actually, people should be making more games for kids so that the medium won't disappear. People who play "casual" games and "Nintendo" games are people who don't regularly play games; games like these "Indoctrinate" people into gaming culture.

People aren't born gamers, they become gamers. That, and the whole "casual/hardcore" dualism is non-sensical.
People think that casual games and such are ruining the industry because they assume that a higher demand for these things will effectively castrate M rated grue

Let's look at the movie industry. Because movies are so expensive to make, you'd think that you'd see a direct correlation in what we predict for the games industry would happen over there. This is wrong. Kid movies pop up 3 or 4 times a month (usually CGI nonsense) but they obviously don't rule over the medium.

Movies are just easier to make. Games need tons of money for programmers.

If you want the games industry to blossom the way all us "Games Are Art" people whine about; you should be advocating for a generally easier programming language.
If making games become easier; (at first) more people would be insanely aping each other for quick cash grabs, critics and consumers would get angrier and less forgiving, publishers would wise up and let the auteurs take over, more original (and well-written) games come out, the consumer base increases, more games come out, more games explore more themes, more people start creating games...

EDIT:
But, as for MMOs, I hate them as much as anyone else does.

[Republicke]

CNC died after Renegade.

CNC died when Generals was released.

EA Games - Fuck up everything.

But Battlefield Bad Company 2 was awesome online. (Although I agree with the EA Games bit)

[Laerod]

c&c 4 twilight.
No Scrin.
Bad Story.
Bad Graphics.

CNC died after Renegade.

CNC died when Generals was released.

Nah. While Generals wasn't a proper CnC game that deserved the name, it certainly was fun. What killed CnC wasn't even EA's (continued) dumbing down of RA, failing to give decent actors proper lines, or being unable to string a plausible plot together. What killed it was the DRM on RA3, followed by the "you can only play if you have internet" DRM that CnC4 had. I don't know what they were smoking to think that you could remove Tiberium harvesting from the Tiberium franchise while removing casual single player play at the same time. An RTS is not an RPG and appeals to both completely different players and parts of a player's gaming needs. Even if it's possible to create a popular RTS that only works online, the idea that you can pull it off with an established franchise that has a fanbase that is used to being able to play offline if they feel like it is ludicrous.

[Salvem el Mon]

Movies are just easier to make. Games need tons of money for programmers.

If you want the games industry to blossom the way all us "Games Are Art" people whine about; you should be advocating for a generally easier programming language.

That's stupid. Making a game is no more difficult than making a film. It's the income that's the problem. If you make a film, you have guaranteed income at the box office. Games don't have that.

[Minoriteeburg]

I should have never bought Oblivion. It is sucking up too many hours of the day.

[The Rich Port]

I should have never bought Oblivion. It is sucking up too many hours of the day.

If you ask me, Oblivion sounds a bit too silly. I prefer keeping my memories of Morrowind pure of other influences.