Gay "Conversion" and Children

[Jesus And The Saints (Ancient)]

Why would anyone interfere with what is obviously a parents concern for their child? How is it 'abuse' to try & redeem a child from sin? Would you stop a parent from sending their child to a clinic if they were an addict? You would surely intervene if your child were suffering any other mental or spiritual illness, who why this? Because it's a politicized issue? Because you know a 'nice' gay couple down the road, or a 'cool' lesbian at work? Their sin is still pervasive & damaging. You won't see that 'nice' couple or 'cool' lesbian on the path of Salvation, or in the Glory of His Eternity, so why associate with them, why invite such sin into your life? I'm not the one who made the rules. A parent should do anything & everything to rescue their child from such a path.

[Takaram]

If someone is old enough to be gay,

There is no age at which you are "old enough to be gay." Nor does being gay mark having reached a specific milestone developmentally. Just as there is no age at which you are old enough to be straight, the notion is ridiculous.

In this regard, there is really only an age at which you are old enough to be horny, to put it bluntly.

Yeah, this is really it. One is gay from day one. It's the hormones of puberty that actually make the person act on those feelings, but they're still gay as prepubescent children.

[Consaria]

Yes. These camps are despicable, but as long as they do not practice abuse then the parents have a right to send their kids there,

On could argue that these camps are causing psychological abuse. Being told that you are evil for being yourself and are going to go to @#!*% unless you lie can be quite traumatic.

I'm sure that there are camps that don't do that. Social workers should survey these camps and shut down the ones that do do this.

[Wamitoria]

Why would anyone interfere with what is obviously a parents concern for their child? How is it 'abuse' to try & redeem a child from sin? Would you stop a parent from sending their child to a clinic if they were an addict? You would surely intervene if your child were suffering any other mental or spiritual illness, who why this? Because it's a politicized issue? Because you know a 'nice' gay couple down the road, or a 'cool' lesbian at work? Their sin is still pervasive & damaging. You won't see that 'nice' couple or 'cool' lesbian on the path of Salvation, or in the Glory of His Eternity, so why associate with them, why invite such sin into your life? I'm not the one who made the rules. A parent should do anything & everything to rescue their child from such a path.

You see, many of these organizations cause serious psychological damage to those who participate in them. Also, THEY DON'T WORK!

[Wamitoria]

On could argue that these camps are causing psychological abuse. Being told that you are evil for being yourself and are going to go to @#!*% unless you lie can be quite traumatic.

I'm sure that there are camps that don't do that. Social workers should survey these camps and shut down the ones that do do this.

Que inevitable "Gov't is regulating religion" argument.

[Takaram]

On could argue that these camps are causing psychological abuse. Being told that you are evil for being yourself and are going to go to hell unless you lie can be quite traumatic.

I'm sure that there are camps that don't do that. Social workers should survey these camps and shut down the ones that do do this.

That's pretty much what they're all about. They try to scare people straight.

EDIT: Also, please do not edit my posts. I said hell, I meant hell.

[Genivar]

Would you stop a parent from sending their child to a clinic if they were an addict? I'm not the one who made the rules. A parent should do anything & everything to rescue their child from such a path.

Its not the same thing and only an ignoramus would think so.
Your right, you didn't make the rules, you just worship the psychotic ass whole who did.

[Consaria]

I'm sure that there are camps that don't do that. Social workers should survey these camps and shut down the ones that do do this.

That's pretty much what they're all about. They try to scare people straight.

EDIT: Also, please do not edit my posts. I said @#!*% , I meant @#!*% .

So they would all be shut down.

EDIT: Sorry about the bowdlerization, Damn parental controls automatically block out profanity.

[Buffett and Colbert]

There is no age at which you are "old enough to be gay." Nor does being gay mark having reached a specific milestone developmentally. Just as there is no age at which you are old enough to be straight, the notion is ridiculous.

In this regard, there is really only an age at which you are old enough to be horny, to put it bluntly.

Yeah, this is really it. One is gay from day one. It's the hormones of puberty that actually make the person act on those feelings, but they're still gay as prepubescent children.

I don't believe that is necessarily true in all cases, but yeah.

[Takaram]

That's pretty much what they're all about. They try to scare people straight.

EDIT: Also, please do not edit my posts. I said hell, I meant hell.

So they would all be shut down.

That's kind of the point.

[Feral Land]

IMHO the issue of gay conversion is abuse regardless of age, it is simply wrong.

P.S. for JESUS AND THE SAINTS, Jesus called and he wants his name back!

[Deus in Machina]

On could argue that these camps are causing psychological abuse. Being told that you are evil for being yourself and are going to go to @#!*% unless you lie can be quite traumatic.

I'm sure that there are camps that don't do that. Social workers should survey these camps and shut down the ones that do do this.

Unfortunately, no sane politician would try it. In the US, where most of these camps are located, the religious right lobby would call it religious persecution. There'd be a shitstorm of controversy and whoever raised the ieda would be swept out of office.

[Yuktova]

no

it should be illegal to send your kid to a scam treatment.

Should also be illegal for adults, like faith healers.

[Galenaima]

Redemption is available for all of God's Children, and a parent would be a foul parent indeed if they allowed their child to sink into such depravity & rejection of God's Laws. Your opinion is of no consequence...their is God's Law & there is accepting The Serpent's Tongue as Truth. If my child were infected with such sin, I would do everything in my power to force it from them, if not just to save them, than to prevent it from spreading to other's.

You do realize that the prohibitions on homosexuality in the Bible are results of mistranslation of all the texts in the Bible and misunderstanding of ancient Hebrew culture, right?

Signed,
L. Cypher in your viewpoint, actually a Catholic tired of all the homophobia BS

[Isolated China]

I'm sure that there are camps that don't do that. Social workers should survey these camps and shut down the ones that do do this.

Unfortunately, no sane politician would try it. In the US, where most of these camps are located, the religious right lobby would call it religious persecution. There'd be a shitstorm of controversy and whoever raised the ieda would be swept out of office.

I'm pretty sure if they can make a law to where you don't have to pray to start a baseball game anymore, they can pass a law shutting down any camp that tries to harm someone. Because its basically physical abuse.

[Yuktova]

Trooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooll

It's called "free speech". If you don't agree it doesn't mean he's trolling. What if he really believes that?

That said, physical harm? REALLY?!?! WTF, man. W.T.F...

Yes but there is a thing called Truth, and lies. He is lying. We are telling the truth.

[Takaram]

Unfortunately, no sane politician would try it. In the US, where most of these camps are located, the religious right lobby would call it religious persecution. There'd be a shitstorm of controversy and whoever raised the ieda would be swept out of office.

I'm pretty sure if they can make a law to where you don't have to pray to start a baseball game anymore, they can pass a law shutting down any camp that tries to harm someone. Because its basically physical abuse.

And emotional abuse. And mental. These places are horrible.

[Isolated China]

I'm pretty sure if they can make a law to where you don't have to pray to start a baseball game anymore, they can pass a law shutting down any camp that tries to harm someone. Because its basically physical abuse.

And emotional abuse. And mental. These places are horrible.

I'm a christian, but people should at least be allowed sexual freedom without abuse or threats.

[Neo Arcad]

WEHR IZ MAH POLL? I asked for a poll and steak fries a whole page ago! I demand to be catered to immediately!

Anyway... every thread like this has a moron that opposes the majority. That moron is either really dumb, or he's got some balls.

[Izandai]

WEHR IZ MAH POLL? I asked for a poll and steak fries a whole page ago! I demand to be catered to immediately!

Anyway... every thread like this has a moron that opposes the majority. That moron is either really dumb, or he's got some balls.

Or he's a-trollin.

[Takaram]

WEHR IZ MAH POLL? I asked for a poll and steak fries a whole page ago! I demand to be catered to immediately!

Anyway... every thread like this has a moron that opposes the majority. That moron is either really dumb, or he's got some balls.

Or he's a either a troll or playing on Poe's Law.

[Isolated China]

WEHR IZ MAH POLL? I asked for a poll and steak fries a whole page ago! I demand to be catered to immediately!

Anyway... every thread like this has a moron that opposes the majority. That moron is either really dumb, or he's got some balls.

Or some really dumb balls.

[Izandai]

WEHR IZ MAH POLL? I asked for a poll and steak fries a whole page ago! I demand to be catered to immediately!

Anyway... every thread like this has a moron that opposes the majority. That moron is either really dumb, or he's got some balls.

Or he's a either a troll or playing on Poe's Law.

Poe's law?

[Deus in Machina]

Unfortunately, no sane politician would try it. In the US, where most of these camps are located, the religious right lobby would call it religious persecution. There'd be a shitstorm of controversy and whoever raised the ieda would be swept out of office.

I'm pretty sure if they can make a law to where you don't have to pray to start a baseball game anymore, they can pass a law shutting down any camp that tries to harm someone. Because its basically physical abuse.

I don't think those two are at all comparable. I may be wrong, but I just can't see such a thing happening in America's current political climate. The fundamentalists have too much sway.

[Takaram]

Or he's a either a troll or playing on Poe's Law.

Poe's law?

"Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."