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Postby Neu Leonstein » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:08 pm

Keronians wrote:I put on Fox News and I see them talking about what a substantial boost this will be to the Japanese economy and how Japan's economy should show massive increases thanks to this tsunami and earthquake.

Well, the damage done is to the stock of stuff ("capital") in Japan. GDP measures what is being produced over a period, which is a flow of stuff. So the initial destruction doesn't actually reduce GDP at all. However, the fact that right now in the immediate aftermath stuff is not being produced will. Over time however, the rebuilding will cause more investment in the production of stuff than would otherwise have been the case, leading to a boost to GDP in the period of rebuilding.
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Postby Latin Hispania » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:11 pm

And on top of everything a nuclear reactor just blew up in Japan too...
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:11 pm

Latin Hispania wrote:And on top of everything a nuclear reactor just blew up in Japan too...

It finally did? I knew there was a risk, but Jesus...
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Postby New Korongo » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:12 pm

Latin Hispania wrote:And on top of everything a nuclear reactor just blew up in Japan too...

what?
you sure it wasn't a meltdown?

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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:15 pm

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The hilarious part...

...he was German...
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Postby Free Tristania » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:15 pm

There has been no meltdown. However our press (Dutch press) here writes that in one of the reactors everything is under control but now the other reactor developed cooling problems.
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Postby New Korongo » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:17 pm

[quote="The Soviet Technocracy";p="5024078"The hilarious part...

...he was German...[/quote]
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:17 pm

New Korongo wrote:
The Soviet Technocracy wrote:The hilarious part...

...he was German...

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Are you so certain he was American?
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Postby Jari Head » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:18 pm

Latin Hispania wrote:And on top of everything a nuclear reactor just blew up in Japan too...

Unit 1 had a hydrogen explosion several hours ago so that's old news unless you're talking about units 2 or 3
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:19 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:It finally did? I knew there was a risk, but Jesus...

The last information I have is that some sort of explosive reaction happened between the inner and outer vessel of the reactor, blowing out the outer layer and leading to a collapse of the building housing the reactor. However, the inner vessel is still intact, and so it's not completely out of hand. The plan is to pump seawater enriched with bohrium (to slow neutrons, I think) into the core to cool it and prevent anything worse.
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Postby Cyber Utopia » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:22 pm

Hope theyre ok. I know what it's like to have several Aftershocks and feel fucked
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:26 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Latin Hispania wrote:And on top of everything a nuclear reactor just blew up in Japan too...

It finally did? I knew there was a risk, but Jesus...


A building exploded, probably from gas (hydrogen or steam or both) pressure exceeding its strength. The "smoke" is probably cement dust. It's not the primary containment of the reactor (which is much smaller and stronger) but it's a very bad sign. Hydrogen means the cladding on the fuel is breached and its reacting with water (chemical reaction) ... so let's hope that was a steam explosion.
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Postby New Korongo » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:30 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
New Korongo wrote:?


Are you so certain he was American?

well in the gamertag description it said "El Paso, TX". Now lets get back on to a more earthquakey topic
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:46 pm

Neu Leonstein wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:It finally did? I knew there was a risk, but Jesus...

The last information I have is that some sort of explosive reaction happened between the inner and outer vessel of the reactor, blowing out the outer layer and leading to a collapse of the building housing the reactor. However, the inner vessel is still intact, and so it's not completely out of hand. The plan is to pump seawater enriched with bohrium (to slow neutrons, I think) into the core to cool it and prevent anything worse.


Bohrium eh? Bohr would be proud.

wikipedia bohrium wrote:It is a synthetic element whose most stable known isotope, 270Bh, has a half-life of 61 seconds.


I doubt they have a teaspoon full of that stuff. I think you mean Boron ?
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:55 pm

Neu Leonstein wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:It finally did? I knew there was a risk, but Jesus...

The last information I have is that some sort of explosive reaction happened between the inner and outer vessel of the reactor, blowing out the outer layer and leading to a collapse of the building housing the reactor. However, the inner vessel is still intact, and so it's not completely out of hand. The plan is to pump seawater enriched with bohrium (to slow neutrons, I think) into the core to cool it and prevent anything worse.


Pretty accurate. A partial meltdown occured. There are conflicting reports as to if and how badly the reactor container was breached. The seawater/boric acid plan is a "Hail Mary" play (not quite sure what'd be the equivalent in assoc. or rugby football). 160 is the figure now being reported for the number of radiation exposues (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/ ... 2G20110312).

This is already one of the worst civilian nuclear disasters (third worst by some accounts), and it isn't over yet. The #3 reactor's lost cooling and is heating up now.
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:56 pm

Nobel Hobos wrote:
Neu Leonstein wrote:The last information I have is that some sort of explosive reaction happened between the inner and outer vessel of the reactor, blowing out the outer layer and leading to a collapse of the building housing the reactor. However, the inner vessel is still intact, and so it's not completely out of hand. The plan is to pump seawater enriched with bohrium (to slow neutrons, I think) into the core to cool it and prevent anything worse.


Bohrium eh? Bohr would be proud.

wikipedia bohrium wrote:It is a synthetic element whose most stable known isotope, 270Bh, has a half-life of 61 seconds.


I doubt they have a teaspoon full of that stuff. I think you mean Boron ?


And somehow I don't expect it'd do much good in this case...
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Postby Dakini » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:00 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:
Neu Leonstein wrote:The last information I have is that some sort of explosive reaction happened between the inner and outer vessel of the reactor, blowing out the outer layer and leading to a collapse of the building housing the reactor. However, the inner vessel is still intact, and so it's not completely out of hand. The plan is to pump seawater enriched with bohrium (to slow neutrons, I think) into the core to cool it and prevent anything worse.


Pretty accurate. A partial meltdown occured. There are conflicting reports as to if and how badly the reactor container was breached. The seawater/boric acid plan is a "Hail Mary" play (not quite sure what'd be the equivalent in assoc. or rugby football). 160 is the figure now being reported for the number of radiation exposues (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/ ... 2G20110312).

This is already one of the worst civilian nuclear disasters (third worst by some accounts), and it isn't over yet. The #3 reactor's lost cooling and is heating up now.

1. This is being ranked at less worse than three mile island at the moment.
2. 160 is the upper estimate for the number of people exposed to radiation, the lower estimate is less than half (70).
3. Your source doesn't say anything about a partial meltdown.
4. Please stop fearmongering, some of us have loved ones in Japan. I would personally sleep better if I don't spend all night worrying about what happens if a meltdown occurs and the winds head for Tokyo where my bf lives, thanks.

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Postby Minoriteeburg » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:03 pm

This is pretty scary...



My Uncle is over there right now helping the victims of the Quake. Hopefully nothing bad happens to him while he is there...
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:03 pm

SO, my friend's son who was wanting to get home but having hassles about his passport being lost and none of the transportation systems working has decided to stay on. He has been volunteering with one of the crews clearing rubble and is getting into it. I tell his dad, "you did a good job raising that one."
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Postby Atlantian Empire » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:03 pm

Scotovy wrote:Then they wonder why everyone doesn't like Americans. Huh. Just can't figure it out. I'm American and these idiots make me wish I wasn't. The bunch of heartless douchebags! Grow up! Japan needs help. Hopefully they get everything back to normal soon!

Pardon me? How could the actions of a few idiots make you ashamed of being American? Every nation has those idiots in them.
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Postby Atlantian Empire » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:05 pm

Keronians wrote:
Scotovy wrote:Then they wonder why everyone doesn't like Americans. Huh. Just can't figure it out. I'm American and these idiots make me wish I wasn't. The bunch of heartless douchebags! Grow up! Japan needs help. Hopefully they get everything back to normal soon!


Honestly, I see so much news everyday about Americans and it just makes me wonder how the country keeps itself upright. It must just be better media and a large population, but honestly. Every single day. There's not a single day in which I don't ask myself how Americans are so retarded. And each day I wonder if the stereotype is true.

Then, of course, I remember how many intelligent Americans I know who are all smarter than me or as smart and how the nation keeps moving forward. But honestly, :palm: . This is all I can say.

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Postby Sdaeriji » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:10 pm

Minoriteeburg wrote:This is pretty scary...



My Uncle is over there right now helping the victims of the Quake. Hopefully nothing bad happens to him while he is there...


Every earthquake does that. The earthquake in Chile last year moved the axis 3 inches.
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Sdaeriji wrote:
Minoriteeburg wrote:This is pretty scary...



My Uncle is over there right now helping the victims of the Quake. Hopefully nothing bad happens to him while he is there...


Every earthquake does that. The earthquake in Chile last year moved the axis 3 inches.

The comments on that article made me lol.

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Postby Isolated China » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:13 pm

Hope they are ok. Hoping no one lost any family members. Praying for anyone living in Japan and anwhere else that might be hit by a tsunami. :(
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Postby Norstal » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:15 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
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Every earthquake does that. The earthquake in Chile last year moved the axis 3 inches.

The comments on that article made me lol.

"2012 is real!"

Ergh, as science gets developed, people gets more superstitious.

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