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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:33 pm

Just got an e-mail from a friend in Osaka all about her experiences. She got seasick in her office on the 4th floor. And her co-worker who was angry dealing with an unpleasant customer thought she'd popped a blood vessel.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:33 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:And TBS just had an update on the Japanese missing and killed in the NZ quake. (TBS = Tokyo Broadcasting System)

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Snow? In Sendai? In March?
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Not at all unheard of. The wiki says they average 15 cm/6 in in March. I remember getting snow in April in Niigata, and that's further south. It's almost the same latitude as where I'm at now in Iowa, and we just had snow a few days ago.

Dang - TBS just had an announcement about foreign residents and tourists. Wasn't listening closely enough to catch all of it, but it sounded like 1600 missing out of 4000.

BTW, if anyone else wants to watch it, here's the live stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tbstv

It's all in Japanese, but the footage is followable.

We get snow in Nagano in April and that's even further South than both Sendai and Niigata (In fact, while today looks nice, we're expecting a snow storm in tomorrow).

Just got a lovely, panicked filled email from the Nagano foreign community asking us to stock up on food and water in case the wind shifts and blows stuff from the reactors our way and we all have to sit inside our houses. *sighs*
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:40 pm

NERVUN wrote:Just got a lovely, panicked filled email from the Nagano foreign community asking us to stock up on food and water in case the wind shifts and blows stuff from the reactors our way and we all have to sit inside our houses. *sighs*


Prolly better than what I've heard the French and Swiss are saying on their embassy websites. Amounts to little more than "THE SKY IS FALLING! RUN FOR HOME NOW!"

No blackouts planned for you I expect. Stay safe and wash your food well.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:43 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:And TBS just had an update on the Japanese missing and killed in the NZ quake. (TBS = Tokyo Broadcasting System)



Not at all unheard of. The wiki says they average 15 cm/6 in in March. I remember getting snow in April in Niigata, and that's further south. It's almost the same latitude as where I'm at now in Iowa, and we just had snow a few days ago.

Dang - TBS just had an announcement about foreign residents and tourists. Wasn't listening closely enough to catch all of it, but it sounded like 1600 missing out of 4000.

BTW, if anyone else wants to watch it, here's the live stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tbstv

It's all in Japanese, but the footage is followable.

We get snow in Nagano in April and that's even further South than both Sendai and Niigata (In fact, while today looks nice, we're expecting a snow storm in tomorrow).

Just got a lovely, panicked filled email from the Nagano foreign community asking us to stock up on food and water in case the wind shifts and blows stuff from the reactors our way and we all have to sit inside our houses. *sighs*

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Postby NERVUN » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:43 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Just got a lovely, panicked filled email from the Nagano foreign community asking us to stock up on food and water in case the wind shifts and blows stuff from the reactors our way and we all have to sit inside our houses. *sighs*


Prolly better than what I've heard the French and Swiss are saying on their embassy websites. Amounts to little more than "THE SKY IS FALLING! RUN FOR HOME NOW!"

No blackouts planned for you I expect. Stay safe and wash your food well.

Given the rather large mountain ranges between us and Fukushima, I'm a little doubtful we'd get anything really. Most winds for Nagano blow either north to south, or west to east (At least in my area). East winds are very rare and usually are generated elsewheres.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:49 pm

Nice Monday wake up, we're having an earthquake right now...
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Postby Montanaa » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:51 pm

NERVUN wrote:Nice Monday wake up, we're having an earthquake right now...


Nature's alarm clock... :(

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Postby Jari Head » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:52 pm

NERVUN wrote:Nice Monday wake up, we're having an earthquake right now...

Aftershock?
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Postby DaWoad » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:52 pm

NERVUN wrote:Nice Monday wake up, we're having an earthquake right now...

How bad Nerv?
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Postby Zeth Rekia » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:53 pm

NERVUN wrote:Nice Monday wake up, we're having an earthquake right now...

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:54 pm

DaWoad wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Nice Monday wake up, we're having an earthquake right now...

How bad Nerv?

Given he's online posting about it and not taking cover, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it was a short bounce and not OMFG EARTHQUAKE FLEE! ;)
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Postby Sibirsky » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:54 pm

Well over 200 aftershocks now. Probably over 300.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:58 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
DaWoad wrote:How bad Nerv?

Given he's online posting about it and not taking cover, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it was a short bounce and not OMFG EARTHQUAKE FLEE! ;)

Pretty much that, growling and rumbling and a short shake. Of course right now I can't tell if we're still shaking or if it's just me and I do not know if it's an aftershock from the tsunami zone or the northern Nagano one. USGS hasn't updated it yet.
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:01 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
DaWoad wrote:How bad Nerv?

Given he's online posting about it and not taking cover, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it was a short bounce and not OMFG EARTHQUAKE FLEE! ;)



Indeed.

BTW, I found the guy who reportedly claimed the government was lying on the BBC yesterday.

A former nuclear power plant designer has said Japan is facing an extremely grave crisis and called on the government to release more information, which he said was being suppressed. Masashi Goto told a news conference in Tokyo that one of the reactors at the Fukushima-Daiichi plant was “highly unstable”, and that if there was a meltdown the “consequences would be tremendous”. He said such an event might be very likely indeed. So far, the government has said a meltdown would not lead to a sizeable leak of radioactive materials.

Mr Goto said the reactors at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant were suffering pressure build-ups way beyond that for which they were designed. There was a severe risk of an explosion, with radioactive material being strewn over a very wide area – beyond the 20km evacuation zone set up by the authorities – he added. Mr Goto calculated that because Reactor No 3 at Fukushima-Daiichi – where pressure is rising and there is a risk of an explosion – used a type of fuel known as Mox, a mixture of p lutonium oxide and uranium oxide, the radioactive fallout from any meltdown might be twice as bad.

He described the worst-case scenario: “It is difficult to say, but that would be a core meltdown. If the rods fall and mix with water, the result would be an explosion of solid material like a volcano spreading radioactive material. Steam or a hydrogen explosion caused by the mix would spread radioactive waste more than 50km. Also, this would be multiplied. There are many reactors in the area so there would be many Chernobyls.”

He accused the government of deliberately withholding vital information that would allow outside experts help solve the problems. “For example, there has not been enough information about the hydrogen being vented. We don’t know how much was vented and how radioactive it was.” He also described the use of sea water to cool the cores of the reactors at Fukushima-Daiichi as highly unusual and dangerous.

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Postby Jari Head » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:07 pm

We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on?
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:07 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Given he's online posting about it and not taking cover, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it was a short bounce and not OMFG EARTHQUAKE FLEE! ;)

Pretty much that, growling and rumbling and a short shake. Of course right now I can't tell if we're still shaking or if it's just me and I do not know if it's an aftershock from the tsunami zone or the northern Nagano one. USGS hasn't updated it yet.


JMA says it was off Ibaraki.
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/3/2011031 ... 40853.html

Also, a friend says 2500 foreigners, mostly tourists, including 255 Australians, are missing.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:11 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Pretty much that, growling and rumbling and a short shake. Of course right now I can't tell if we're still shaking or if it's just me and I do not know if it's an aftershock from the tsunami zone or the northern Nagano one. USGS hasn't updated it yet.


JMA says it was off Ibaraki.
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/3/2011031 ... 40853.html

Also, a friend says 2500 foreigners, mostly tourists, including 255 Australians, are missing.

JET is currently trying to contact all the JETs in the area, but...
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:16 pm

Posting from a friend in Akita (North of Sendai):

I'll tell you one thing, I would gladly take rolling black outs to having no power like we had for close to 36 hours. We are expecting snow tomorrow with a low of -8C on Wednesday. Hope they are wrong about that. Still no idea when the roads of trains will start, so no gas, no more food, no kerosene or propane.
Not much to do but sit around and wait, either for things to get back to normal, or the next big quake.
I know this might sound strange, but half the time I am sitting reading or just talking to my wife, I feel like the house is swaying, but when I check to see if anything is moving it isn't. That is the most unnerving part of this all.


(-8 C = 17.5 C)
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:17 pm

NERVUN wrote:JET is currently trying to contact all the JETs in the area, but...


Yeah, it's hard going for sure.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:22 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:Posting from a friend in Akita (North of Sendai):

I'll tell you one thing, I would gladly take rolling black outs to having no power like we had for close to 36 hours. We are expecting snow tomorrow with a low of -8C on Wednesday. Hope they are wrong about that. Still no idea when the roads of trains will start, so no gas, no more food, no kerosene or propane.
Not much to do but sit around and wait, either for things to get back to normal, or the next big quake.
I know this might sound strange, but half the time I am sitting reading or just talking to my wife, I feel like the house is swaying, but when I check to see if anything is moving it isn't. That is the most unnerving part of this all.


(-8 C = 17.5 C)

You mean F.

I feel for them. We were without power for 2 days after wind knocked down power lines a few weeks ago.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:22 pm

Well, I guess that we can at least be glad that the quake didn't happen on mainland Japan itself. I don't know if anybody else here has seen Tokyo 8.0, but that scenario was quite a bit worse than this one...although it was only focused on a few characters rather than the situation at large.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:25 pm

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Daistallia 2104 wrote:Posting from a friend in Akita (North of Sendai):



(-8 C = 17.5 C)

You mean F.

I feel for them. We were without power for 2 days after wind knocked down power lines a few weeks ago.

This is why I am insisting to my wife that our new house WILL have a wood burning stove. If something like this happens, we'll have heat, be able to boil water, and be able to cook still.

She accepted it as a trade off until we got the news about the conditions up north, she's a lot more enthusiastic about it now.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:26 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Well, I guess that we can at least be glad that the quake didn't happen on mainland Japan itself. I don't know if anybody else here has seen Tokyo 8.0, but that scenario was quite a bit worse than this one...although it was only focused on a few characters rather than the situation at large.

Tokyo is still living in fear of the next great Kanto quake... This just reminded them that when it hits, it's going to be very, very bad.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:29 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:You mean F.

I feel for them. We were without power for 2 days after wind knocked down power lines a few weeks ago.

This is why I am insisting to my wife that our new house WILL have a wood burning stove. If something like this happens, we'll have heat, be able to boil water, and be able to cook still.

She accepted it as a trade off until we got the news about the conditions up north, she's a lot more enthusiastic about it now.

Times like these you realize how dependent we are on electricity. I have a gas fired grill out back. And that was the only way to cook. There was no heat though. It wasn't quite as cold as it is in Japan though. Still, it got down to the mid 50s inside.
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