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by FREEaquaticdancelesson » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:28 am
by Keronians » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:18 am
FREEaquaticdancelesson wrote:Ring of fire, what a beautiful yet terrible place!
I can't wait till an earthquake hits one of those lunatics who claim that GOD HAETS JAPS & HATIANS!
Or a tornado or SOMETHING.
All I know is that if I were God, and I had to smite someone, it would probably be someone who was using me as an excuse to hate.
by Keronians » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:22 am
EagleScout24 wrote:Sibirsky wrote:How is sending money to Haiti sad? Burning Americans' pockets? I don't advocate sending your mortgage payment to Japan. I advocate forgoing you $5 latte every day for a month and sending them $150. The average donation to Red Cross has been ~$60 for relief in Japan.
I petitioned a fundraiser against my school student council because they kept saying that this was and would be the only major disaster for the next couple of years. My petition passed and the fundraiser was stopped. I was thanked by many parents and administrators who also opposed the fundraiser. I later researched fundraisers that other schools did for Haiti and found out that the Red Cross never used it. Haiti did nothing for us. They had a corrupt government that did'nt help their own citizens. Japen is an allie with the U.S and has done a lot for the U.S. Plus, they have a nuclear problem on their hands. Haiti didn't have that.
by Jari Head » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:10 am
by Sibirsky » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:29 am
Teinohikira wrote:Japan can rot in hell for all I care.
by EagleScout24 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:31 am
Potarius wrote:EagleScout24 wrote:Haiti did nothing for us. They had a corrupt government that did'nt help their own citizens. Japen is an allie with the U.S and has done a lot for the U.S. Plus, they have a nuclear problem on their hands. Haiti didn't have that.
...It is because of their corrupt government that the citizens of Haiti were so poorly prepared for the disaster that happened, and the aid has been going to those citizens, not their government.
You know, as somebody who actually was in the Scouts in elementary school, that's some pretty fucking insulting doctrine coming from somebody who uses the name of the Scouts as their avatar nation. A big part of it is about helping people who are in need, not helping people because they've already done something for us.
Fucking disgusting.
by Potarius » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:40 am
EagleScout24 wrote:Potarius wrote:
...It is because of their corrupt government that the citizens of Haiti were so poorly prepared for the disaster that happened, and the aid has been going to those citizens, not their government.
You know, as somebody who actually was in the Scouts in elementary school, that's some pretty fucking insulting doctrine coming from somebody who uses the name of the Scouts as their avatar nation. A big part of it is about helping people who are in need, not helping people because they've already done something for us.
Fucking disgusting.
It's called using common sense that some people don't have.
Would you rather use your money on a country that helps you or doesn't. Plus it's also the American Red Cross's fault for not getting most of the supplies and money we donated. The scouting program has done nothing wrong. You would know if you were actually in Scouts.
by Laerod » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:58 am
EagleScout24 wrote:Potarius wrote:
...It is because of their corrupt government that the citizens of Haiti were so poorly prepared for the disaster that happened, and the aid has been going to those citizens, not their government.
You know, as somebody who actually was in the Scouts in elementary school, that's some pretty fucking insulting doctrine coming from somebody who uses the name of the Scouts as their avatar nation. A big part of it is about helping people who are in need, not helping people because they've already done something for us.
Fucking disgusting.
It's called using common sense that some people don't have.
Would you rather use your money on a country that helps you or doesn't. Plus it's also the American Red Cross's fault for not getting most of the supplies and money we donated. The scouting program has done nothing wrong. You would know if you were actually in Scouts.
by Daistallia 2104 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:00 pm
EagleScout24 wrote:Potarius wrote:
...It is because of their corrupt government that the citizens of Haiti were so poorly prepared for the disaster that happened, and the aid has been going to those citizens, not their government.
You know, as somebody who actually was in the Scouts in elementary school, that's some pretty fucking insulting doctrine coming from somebody who uses the name of the Scouts as their avatar nation. A big part of it is about helping people who are in need, not helping people because they've already done something for us.
Fucking disgusting.
It's called using common sense that some people don't have.
Would you rather use your money on a country that helps you or doesn't. Plus it's also the American Red Cross's fault for not getting most of the supplies and money we donated. The scouting program has done nothing wrong. You would know if you were actually in Scouts.
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.
by Sibirsky » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:05 pm
by EagleScout24 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:21 pm
Potarius wrote:EagleScout24 wrote:It's called using common sense that some people don't have.
Would you rather use your money on a country that helps you or doesn't. Plus it's also the American Red Cross's fault for not getting most of the supplies and money we donated. The scouting program has done nothing wrong. You would know if you were actually in Scouts.
1: A lot can be said about common sense, but this isn't about common sense. This is about helping people whose lives have been destroyed because of a disaster on a national level. What you're advocating here is no better than not helping a neighbor who just got run over by a car because he never did anything for you before it happened.
2: It's not about helping a country, it's about helping the people in it. Do you seriously believe that the tens of thousands of people who've donated to the cause in Haiti think they're throwing their money to their shit government?
3: Yes, shift the blame. That is convenient.
4: When did I ever say the Scouts had done anything wrong? Are you daft? I said you are doing something that's not exactly in line with their character. All you seem to be doing is dancing around the issue I and several other people have brought up about your purported "character".
by North Suran » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:25 pm
EagleScout24 wrote:I believe we should donate to these causes, but remember that we are in a deep reccession ourselves.
Neu Mitanni wrote:As for NS, his latest statement is grounded in ignorance and contrary to fact, much to the surprise of all NSGers.
Geniasis wrote:The War on Christmas
by Sibirsky » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:27 pm
EagleScout24 wrote:Potarius wrote:
1: A lot can be said about common sense, but this isn't about common sense. This is about helping people whose lives have been destroyed because of a disaster on a national level. What you're advocating here is no better than not helping a neighbor who just got run over by a car because he never did anything for you before it happened.
2: It's not about helping a country, it's about helping the people in it. Do you seriously believe that the tens of thousands of people who've donated to the cause in Haiti think they're throwing their money to their shit government?
3: Yes, shift the blame. That is convenient.
4: When did I ever say the Scouts had done anything wrong? Are you daft? I said you are doing something that's not exactly in line with their character. All you seem to be doing is dancing around the issue I and several other people have brought up about your purported "character".
Are you going to throw all your money away to these countries for their benefit when you don't even now if they people taking the donations (like the Red Cross) will ever get all of the money there. They've "lost" donations before. I believe we should donate to these causes, but remember that we are in a deep reccession ourselves.
Sibirsky wrote:EagleScout24 wrote:It's sad to know that we sent all this money to Haiti, which was great, but we need to expect any other sudden natural disasters so that we don't burn the pockets of Americans with donations.
How is sending money to Haiti sad? Burning Americans' pockets? I don't advocate sending your mortgage payment to Japan. I advocate forgoing you $5 latte every day for a month and sending them $150. The average donation to Red Cross has been ~$60 for relief in Japan.
by Sedgistan » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:23 pm
Teinohikira wrote:Japan can rot in hell for all I care.
by Esternial » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:25 pm
by Dewroc » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:13 pm
by Teinohikira » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:15 pm
by Keronians » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:17 pm
Teinohikira wrote:Sedgistan wrote:If you don't care about Japan, you can either ignore the thread, or just say "I don't care about Japan". Instead, you've said it in such a way that's inevitably going to annoy people. You can take a *** warning *** for trolling.
Eh, I'm used to it. I'm on Warning Level 4 right now.
Back on topic, I just think Japan could've been a little more prepared for this type of situation. And why did they put Nuclear Reactors near a civilized place? They could've put them at the coast away from civilians.
by Keronians » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:20 pm
Dewroc wrote:You can take a warning for trolling.
by Farnhamia » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:21 pm
Teinohikira wrote:Sedgistan wrote:If you don't care about Japan, you can either ignore the thread, or just say "I don't care about Japan". Instead, you've said it in such a way that's inevitably going to annoy people. You can take a *** warning *** for trolling.
Eh, I'm used to it. I'm on Warning Level 4 right now.
Back on topic, I just think Japan could've been a little more prepared for this type of situation. And why did they put Nuclear Reactors near a civilized place? They could've put them at the coast away from civilians.
by Teinohikira » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:21 pm
Keronians wrote:Teinohikira wrote:Eh, I'm used to it. I'm on Warning Level 4 right now.
Back on topic, I just think Japan could've been a little more prepared for this type of situation. And why did they put Nuclear Reactors near a civilized place? They could've put them at the coast away from civilians.
MORE prepared? Japan is the most prepared country in the World for these kinds of things.
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