Wis. GOP strips public workers' bargaining rights

[New Manvir]

Political shenanigans will cost the GOP

Hopefully this.

[NERVUN]

Yeah, I mean, WTF do people need rights for? Only corporations need rights; people mean nothing.

Federal workers don't have collective bargaining rights, why do state workers? Besides, we're BROKE--people don't like not having massive pensions? Oh well.

Yeah, it's not like the unions said that they would accept higher payments into those systems, or a number of other consessions...

Oh wait, they DID. Sorry.

[Buurdland]

I don't see how this possibly violates open meeting laws. The Democrats that fled have missed how many days of work now? If you skipped that many days of work would you still have a job? Should politicians be any different?

[Sdaeriji]

Yeah, I mean, WTF do people need rights for? Only corporations need rights; people mean nothing.

Federal workers don't have collective bargaining rights, why do state workers? Besides, we're BROKE--people don't like not having massive pensions? Oh well.

Even a grade school understanding of the situation would allow you to know that the union had already granted all the financial concessions, and that the opposition was to the requirement that the union sign away their rights to negotiate later. You seem to be lacking that understanding.

[Galenaima]

Federal workers don't have collective bargaining rights, why do state workers? Besides, we're BROKE--people don't like not having massive pensions? Oh well.

Yeah, it's not like the unions said that they would accept higher payments into those systems, or a number of other consessions...

Oh wait, they DID. Sorry.

Well apparently it wasn't enough.

The Feds pushed Healthcare down our throats. This is how it feels.

[Minoriteeburg]

Political shenanigans will cost the GOP

Hopefully this.

How can this not hurt them. Unions across the country will be upset about this, and this will severely hurt the GOP come 2012.

[Potarius]

Federal workers don't have collective bargaining rights, why do state workers? Besides, we're BROKE--people don't like not having massive pensions? Oh well.

Even a grade school understanding of the situation would allow you to know that the union had already granted all the financial concessions, and that the opposition was to the requirement that the union sign away their rights to negotiate later. You seem to be lacking that understanding.

A worrying amount of people seem to be lacking that understanding.

At this point, I think it's deliberate.

[Brewdomia]

To be quite honest, Public Sector Unions tend to be a detriment to the education system.

which is why wisconsin has one of the best school systems in the country?

http://education.usnews.rankingsandrevi ... statistics

#44 is good?

[NERVUN]

Yeah, it's not like the unions said that they would accept higher payments into those systems, or a number of other consessions...

Oh wait, they DID. Sorry.

Well apparently it wasn't enough.

The Feds pushed Healthcare down our throats. This is how it feels.

No, they had a gov who wanted to play politics instead of actually talk with the unions. My way or the highway.

[Wikkiwallana]

This is the GOP's new logo.

(Image)

No he just cheats at races, you were thinking of this guy:

[NERVUN]

I don't see how this possibly violates open meeting laws. The Democrats that fled have missed how many days of work now? If you skipped that many days of work would you still have a job? Should politicians be any different?

Er... open meeting laws do not work that way.

[Alexlantis]

Yeah, that pretty much solidifies my belief that the Republican Party is evil.

[Galenaima]

Well apparently it wasn't enough.

The Feds pushed Healthcare down our throats. This is how it feels.

No, they had a gov who wanted to play politics instead of actually talk with the unions. My way or the highway.

As I said: direct parallel to Heathcare. Congress did the same exact thing.

[New Manvir]

Hopefully this.

How can this not hurt them. Unions across the country will be upset about this, and this will severely hurt the GOP come 2012.

I have very little faith in your country and it's people voters.

But I would like to see the GOP get knocked down a peg.

[Sdaeriji]

No, they had a gov who wanted to play politics instead of actually talk with the unions. My way or the highway.

As I said: direct parallel to Heathcare. Congress did the same exact thing.

This is a lie.

[Galenaima]

As I said: direct parallel to Heathcare. Congress did the same exact thing.

This is a lie.

Explain how so.

[NERVUN]

Hopefully this.

How can this not hurt them. Unions across the country will be upset about this, and this will severely hurt the GOP come 2012.

The GOP of 2011 is doing as the Dems of 2009 did, over reaching. I'm not too sure why, but apparently both parties seem to be missing the idea that the bulk of the voters don't like them so much as they wanted to punish the other party.

[Maurepas]

How can this not hurt them. Unions across the country will be upset about this, and this will severely hurt the GOP come 2012.

I have very little faith in your country and it's people.

Same, unfortunately.

And there's gotta be something illegal with this. It's like they just went "fuckit! we'll just do it without them!"

[Ashmoria]

do you suppose they can survive this politically?

Yeah the republicans are destroying their reputation.....and I love it.

i would love it except that they are laying waste to the country.

[Galenaima]

Yeah the republicans are destroying their reputation.....and I love it.

i would love it except that they are laying waste to the country.

Hardly. They're reining in the unions and we've needed that for quite some time.

[Greed and Death]

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dls/OMPR/201 ... _Guide.pdf
The open meeting law does not provide for voiding of the law as a penalty, It only provides for a 25-300 dollar fine. At least as far as I can tell.

The penalty will not be the voiding of laws, but the fact that it makes a nice sign to hang around your opponet's neck.

After all, noting that "Not only did Sen Whoever voted to strip rights away from (Insert group here), he did so while violating state law. Do you really want to return a lawbreaker to the state senate?" makes a good argument that is hard to squirm around.

Possibly, though given its a misdemeanor the GOP will likely equate it to a traffic ticket they got while taking care doing what is right. That's of course provided the Dems even remember where their balls are come election time.

[Brewdomia]

How can this not hurt them. Unions across the country will be upset about this, and this will severely hurt the GOP come 2012.

The GOP of 2011 is doing as the Dems of 2009 did, over reaching. I'm not too sure why, but apparently both parties seem to be missing the idea that the bulk of the voters don't like them so much as they wanted to punish the other party.

The Dems didn't really overreach, they have a bad marketing team, and public opinion turned on them. The Republicans, while having more bad ideas, are better at politics.

[Sdaeriji]

This is a lie.

Explain how so.

Because it is factually inaccurate.

[Soheran]

I am a strong supporter of unions, including public sector unions, so I think this vote is disgraceful. Nonetheless, I have no procedural problem with it. A majority is a majority: the party that controls both houses of the legislature and the governorship should be able to implement their policy agenda. The voters can throw them out, and get the terrible things they pass repealed, during and after the next election.

[Minoriteeburg]

Yeah the republicans are destroying their reputation.....and I love it.

i would love it except that they are laying waste to the country.

I think it will be stopped before it goes any further.