Wis. GOP strips public workers' bargaining rights

[Potarius]

Nah, not a problem if you're a good family-values kinda guy. Look at Newt Gingrich, you can have several, while simultaneously calling for impeachment over someone else having one, and come out scott-free, so long as you take the appropriate anti-gay stance.

Unless of course he pulls the ultimate Republican Shot to the Foot and gets caught in a gay affair.

With a dog.

[Ashmoria]

the 2 things are not analagous.

this wisconsin bill was drafted and passed in one hour. the HCR bill took a year and a half AND a supermajority in the senate.

That's because the GOP didn't run away, they fought on. And thanks to a recent ruling, we may just win HC for now.

they "ran" as hard as they could from 1/09 to 1/11.
and no, you wont win HC nor would it be a win if you did.

"please mr boehner wont you fuck me harder?"

[Gauthier]

That's because the GOP didn't run away, they fought on. And thanks to a recent ruling, we may just win HC for now.

they "ran" as hard as they could from 1/09 to 1/11.
and no, you wont win HC nor would it be a win if you did.

"please mr boehner wont you fuck me harder?"

The Teabagger/FOXTool's perfect idea of health care would be Repo! The Genetic Opera.

[Galenaima]

That's because the GOP didn't run away, they fought on. And thanks to a recent ruling, we may just win HC for now.

they "ran" as hard as they could from 1/09 to 1/11.
and no, you wont win HC nor would it be a win if you did.

"please mr boehner wont you fuck me harder?"

They didn't physically hide out in a resort, and yes, it would be a win. Not all of us want the US to be a ultra-left nanny state.

See, HC is like food; YES, everyone needs it, but someone has to provide it, and farmers don't work out of the good of their hearts. They do it to make a living. Enter doctors and the like, the 'farmers' of HC.

And yes, that's very mature. Tsk tsk.

[Xomic]

the 2 things are not analagous.

this wisconsin bill was drafted and passed in one hour. the HCR bill took a year and a half AND a supermajority in the senate.

That's because the GOP didn't run away, they fought on. And thanks to a recent ruling, we may just win HC for now.

The democrats "ran away" to prevent the hostile removal of these people's rights. This is a completely legit political tactic when faced with hostile and injustice members of senate without the ability to actually block or prevent the budget from passing through staying in the building and trying to work out some sort of deal. Had they stayed, Walker would have passed the bill on through without so much as bothering to debate it, because he didn't need to do so.

[Itinerate Tree Dweller]

That's because the GOP didn't run away, they fought on. And thanks to a recent ruling, we may just win HC for now.

The democrats "ran away" to prevent the hostile removal of these people's rights. This is a completely legit political tactic when faced with hostile and injustice members of senate without the ability to actually block or prevent the budget from passing through staying in the building and trying to work out some sort of deal. Had they stayed, Walker would have passed the bill on through without so much as bothering to debate it, because he didn't need to do so.

Lincoln did the same thing when a member of his state legislature. Fleeing to prevent a quorum is nothing new.

[Maurepas]

Nah, not a problem if you're a good family-values kinda guy. Look at Newt Gingrich, you can have several, while simultaneously calling for impeachment over someone else having one, and come out scott-free, so long as you take the appropriate anti-gay stance.

What about a gay sex scandal then?

It's tough but it can be done, just have to make sure you ask for God's forgiveness for your horrible sins, etc., etc.

[Potarius]

What about a gay sex scandal then?

It's tough but it can be done, just have to make sure you ask for God's forgiveness for your horrible sins, etc., etc.

And go to a rehab camp to "get the gayness out of you".

[Minoriteeburg]

It's tough but it can be done, just have to make sure you ask for God's forgiveness for your horrible sins, etc., etc.

And go to a rehab camp to "get the gayness out of you".

Fire Island works too.

[Gauthier]

On the other hand, I think this gives Democrats and unions a magazine box of silver bullets against the Republicans. By separating the Union Buster from the budget bill, they have in effect admitted that busting unions has nothing to do with the budget.

And by violating the Open Meeting Law, they showed that they are willing to dispense with rules and decorum if they want to get something done badly enough.

[New Manvir]

KInda hard to do so, but, again, it is dependant upon the person running.

If I were, I would pound it for all its worth though.

Have you been in the US long enough to even run for the Senate. Seems like the Democrats with balls have fled the country.

Their corporate masters had them fixed when they bought the party.

[Wikkiwallana]

I was talking about the bill the whole time.

the 2 things are not analagous.

this wisconsin bill was drafted and passed in one hour. the HCR bill took a year and a half AND a supermajority in the senate.

And concession after concession is hardly shoving it down their throats.

[Maurepas]

It's tough but it can be done, just have to make sure you ask for God's forgiveness for your horrible sins, etc., etc.

And go to a rehab camp to "get the gayness out of you".

With the right marketing, I think we can get this guy in office no matter what his problems are.

[Itinerate Tree Dweller]

And go to a rehab camp to "get the gayness out of you".

With the right marketing, I think we can get this guy in office no matter what his problems are.

How can you flip a gay sex affair? Claim it was market research into that whole gay rights/gay marriage debate?

[Galenaima]

the 2 things are not analagous.

this wisconsin bill was drafted and passed in one hour. the HCR bill took a year and a half AND a supermajority in the senate.

And concession after concession is hardly shoving it down their throats.

The people still didn't want the bill.

[Wikkiwallana]

the 2 things are not analagous.

this wisconsin bill was drafted and passed in one hour. the HCR bill took a year and a half AND a supermajority in the senate.

That's because the GOP didn't run away, they fought on. And thanks to a recent ruling, we may just win HC for now.

Maybe because they had the ability to filibuster, which doesn't exist in Wisconsin. The was no other way for the Democrats to fight this, or they would have.

[JuNii]

How can this not hurt them. Unions across the country will be upset about this, and this will severely hurt the GOP come 2012.

I have very little faith in your country and it's people voters.

But I would like to see the GOP get knocked down a peg.

... remember 2008?

[Wikkiwallana]

they "ran" as hard as they could from 1/09 to 1/11.
and no, you wont win HC nor would it be a win if you did.

"please mr boehner wont you fuck me harder?"

They didn't physically hide out in a resort, and yes, it would be a win. Not all of us want the US to be a ultra-left nanny state.

See, HC is like food; YES, everyone needs it, but someone has to provide it, and farmers don't work out of the good of their hearts. They do it to make a living. Enter doctors and the like, the 'farmers' of HC.

And yes, that's very mature. Tsk tsk.

You think the doctors would be working for free? What the hell planet are you from?

[Occupied Deutschland]

Lincoln did the same thing when a member of his state legislature. Fleeing to prevent a quorum is nothing new.

When Lincoln was a senator, slavery wasn't anything new either. Do we really want to make the argument that just because this was used before as a political tactic it is legit?

Honestly, it seems like Democrats got what they wanted from this. Walker is exceedingly unpopular, there were WEEKS of national media attention on the "situation in Wisconsin" and all the public-sector employees got to have their complaint marches and the like. Now it's time for the basterds to go back home, write up some legislation on allowing filibusters or some shit, and wait until they can reverse this law in a year when they regain power.

[Galenaima]

They didn't physically hide out in a resort, and yes, it would be a win. Not all of us want the US to be a ultra-left nanny state.

See, HC is like food; YES, everyone needs it, but someone has to provide it, and farmers don't work out of the good of their hearts. They do it to make a living. Enter doctors and the like, the 'farmers' of HC.

And yes, that's very mature. Tsk tsk.

You think the doctors would be working for free? What the hell planet are you from?

Well, they'd be making less.

Earth, thank you. Et tu?

[Occupied Deutschland]

You think the doctors would be working for free? What the hell planet are you from?

Well, if it was in any way similiar to Medicare or Medicaid...yes. Doctors only get cents on the dollar from those programs for services rendered.

[Maurepas]

With the right marketing, I think we can get this guy in office no matter what his problems are.

How can you flip a gay sex affair? Claim it was market research into that whole gay rights/gay marriage debate?

Well, it's pretty simple, afterall, he's only human, and humans have the capacity for Sin. He needs the help of God, the community and his family to rid himself of his horrible urges. It's opened his eyes to the need to rid our society of these types of people, and keep them out of our families and away from our traditions of marriage.

[Wikkiwallana]

And concession after concession is hardly shoving it down their throats.

The people still didn't want the bill.

They wanted it at first, until the GOP had time to invent the "death panels" and "healthcare rationing" lies and get them good and soaked into the public consciousness.

[Itinerate Tree Dweller]

Lincoln did the same thing when a member of his state legislature. Fleeing to prevent a quorum is nothing new.

When Lincoln was a senator, slavery wasn't anything new either. Do we really want to make the argument that just because this was used before as a political tactic it is legit?

Honestly, it seems like Democrats got what they wanted from this. Walker is exceedingly unpopular, there were WEEKS of national media attention on the "situation in Wisconsin" and all the public-sector employees got to have their complaint marches and the like. Now it's time for the basterds to go back home, write up some legislation on allowing filibusters or some shit, and wait until they can reverse this law in a year when they regain power.

So you are comparing fleeing to prevent a quorum to the institution of slavery?

[Xomic]

And concession after concession is hardly shoving it down their throats.

The people still didn't want the bill.

No.

conservative idiots didn't want the bill, after the democrats tried to get members of the GOP on board, and passed concession after concession, then liberals started to dislike what the bill was becoming as well.