What do you listen to?

[Hydesland]

I never got Jazz until I started going to a place called Matt and Freds. Jazz isn't something you listen to on your stereo, it's something you experience in a club.

I used to go to a Jazz club in Sheffield.

In theory, I like Jazz. I like the intent. I like the concept.

Unfortunately, in practise, I find it almost un-listenable, 99 times out of 100.

'Math rock' strikes me the same way.

I think it depends on the genre of Jazz, it is such a broad genre that two sub genres can be rendered almost entirely different from each other. I think there is always at least some type of Jazz that someone likes.

[Grave_n_idle]

I used to go to a Jazz club in Sheffield.

In theory, I like Jazz. I like the intent. I like the concept.

Unfortunately, in practise, I find it almost un-listenable, 99 times out of 100.

'Math rock' strikes me the same way.

I think it depends on the genre of Jazz, it is such a broad genre that two sub genres can be rendered almost entirely different from each other. I think there is always at least some type of Jazz that someone likes.

If there is a Jazz for me, I wish I could find it. Like I said, in concept, it should be perfect for me.

[Hydesland]

If there is a Jazz for me, I wish I could find it. Like I said, in concept, it should be perfect for me.

To me I've always considered the point of Jazz to create melodies and harmonies as innovative but as enjoyable as possible. Obviously for some these melodies and harmonies start to lose their edge, and more and more extreme or abstract sub genres of jazz were created to satisfy their desire. For some reason the word Jazz has been associated with these latter genres more.

[New Manvir]

Various sound waves.

[Fartsniffage]

I have no idea what genre this shit falls under but it's brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-4cXdLx ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPZjPGep ... re=related

[Grave_n_idle]

If there is a Jazz for me, I wish I could find it. Like I said, in concept, it should be perfect for me.

To me I've always considered the point of Jazz to create melodies and harmonies as innovative but as enjoyable as possible. Obviously for some these melodies and harmonies start to lose their edge, and more and more extreme or abstract sub genres of jazz were created to satisfy their desire. For some reason the word Jazz has been associated with these latter genres more.

I love improvisation. I love syncopation. I've always liked live music, because I love the idea you're getting a performance different from every other performance. I like polyrhythmic percussion. I like swung notes.

It seems like maybe I just like the elements in isolation.

[Hydesland]

It seems like maybe I just like the elements in isolation.

Would you consider listening to the music on one instrument a form of isolation?

For instance if you youtube Jazz piano you get this nice piece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIRuri1AB0I

[Vojvodina-Nihon]

I actually prefer jazz on record to live jazz

/heretic


... although, in fairness it would be pretty hard to actually perform something like Bitches Brew live

/even more heretic

[Grave_n_idle]

It seems like maybe I just like the elements in isolation.

Would you consider listening to the music on one instrument a form of isolation?

For instance if you youtube Jazz piano you get this nice piece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIRuri1AB0I

That's pleasant enough. I could certainly listen to that. (Which is already a big improvement...)

Doesn't excite me, though... I'm finding it hard to see how I get from there, to passionate.

[Fionnuala_Saoirse]

Folk. Particularly Alasdair Roberts at the moment

[Grave_n_idle]

I actually prefer jazz on record to live jazz

/heretic


... although, in fairness it would be pretty hard to actually perform something like Bitches Brew live

/even more heretic

I don't know about heresy, but that does seem to be... kinda missing the point.

That said, I'm not a fan, so maybe my opinion is not the most relevant.

[Fartsniffage]

I don't know about heresy, but that does seem to be... kinda missing the point.

That said, I'm not a fan, so maybe my opinion is not the most relevant.

Don't be like that. Negative feedback is the most important when trying to improve.

[Chinese Regions]

Hard Rock, Old school rap, Nu Metal

[Hydesland]

That's pleasant enough. I could certainly listen to that. (Which is already a big improvement...)

Doesn't excite me, though... I'm finding it hard to see how I get from there, to passionate.

Do you play any instruments yourself?

[Central Cumbria]

Green Day mostly, or anything like Green Day

[Vojvodina-Nihon]

I actually prefer jazz on record to live jazz

/heretic


... although, in fairness it would be pretty hard to actually perform something like Bitches Brew live

/even more heretic

I don't know about heresy, but that does seem to be... kinda missing the point.

That said, I'm not a fan, so maybe my opinion is not the most relevant.

Nah. Fans tend to share your opinion.

It's mostly that a lot of the jazz movements I like started (and finished :/) sometime between 1950 and 1970. Very few notable jazz musicians have emerged since then for a pretty good reason -- the whole genre seems to have run out of steam. And unlike with say classical music where you get ensembles dedicated to performing the music of the past, you're not going to hear a live performance by Miles Davis or Bill Evans or whoever. They're dead. No figures of comparable stature seem to have replaced them.

Some of the cool "modernist" stuff has survived to the present day though -- for instance, my local library has a number of jazz records by the New York Composers Orchestra, which is still in existence and which I'll check out the next time I head to New York. It's easier to find records than go to performances, though. Cheaper too.

Also, jazz fans tend to strongly dislike the jazz-rock fusion movement of which Bitches Brew was probably the best-selling work, hence my other "heretic" comment. :P

[Grave_n_idle]

That's pleasant enough. I could certainly listen to that. (Which is already a big improvement...)

Doesn't excite me, though... I'm finding it hard to see how I get from there, to passionate.

Do you play any instruments yourself?

I used to mess around on guitar and piano, a little. But I was pretty horrible.

I have friends in bands, and I've written material for them, and produced edited and their stuff... and I have a little more talent there.

But basically, I like to listen to music.

[The Blaatschapen]

Various sound waves.

Considering that you are batman, does that include ultrasonic sounds?

[Grave_n_idle]

I have no idea what genre this shit falls under but it's brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-4cXdLx ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPZjPGep ... re=related

That is pretty awesome, actually.

I just developed a new respect for Bill Bailey.

[Hydesland]

I used to mess around on guitar and piano, a little. But I was pretty horrible.

I have friends in bands, and I've written material for them, and produced edited and their stuff... and I have a little more talent there.

But basically, I like to listen to music.

Yeah, but I mean I just tend to find that musicians tend to appreciate or enjoy Jazz more than non musicians, not sure why.

[Inchland]

I usually listen to a lot of grunge and alternative rock.

[Grave_n_idle]

I used to mess around on guitar and piano, a little. But I was pretty horrible.

I have friends in bands, and I've written material for them, and produced edited and their stuff... and I have a little more talent there.

But basically, I like to listen to music.

Yeah, but I mean I just tend to find that musicians tend to appreciate or enjoy Jazz more than non musicians, not sure why.

That could explain it.

I can see why it might be so. Playing guitar is only really impressive if you've tried playing guitar, so you know how hard it is.

[Vojvodina-Nihon]

I used to mess around on guitar and piano, a little. But I was pretty horrible.

I have friends in bands, and I've written material for them, and produced edited and their stuff... and I have a little more talent there.

But basically, I like to listen to music.

Yeah, but I mean I just tend to find that musicians tend to appreciate or enjoy Jazz more than non musicians, not sure why.

That depends.

I'm only a musician in a very old-fashioned sense of the term, and jazz is an acquired taste I developed around the time I became an adult; but I seem to enjoy it more than many of the "real" musicians I know.* On the other hand, there are others who are much more into jazz than I, both musicians and nonmusicians.

* e.g. ones who actually perform

[New Manvir]

Various sound waves.

Considering that you are batman, does that include ultrasonic sounds?

I have an app for that.

[Potarius]

I listen to whatever the fuck I WANT, bitch. Case in point: I've got Fragile by Yes (original vinyl) going right now, and when it's done, I plan on putting on my original Sex Pistols 45s.