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What do you get when you have some dipshit, halfwitted moron with barely two brain cells to rub together and doubles down on debunked bullshit espouse by the likes of thom hartmann?
You get the likes of a dumb cunt called Roxane Dunbar-Ortiz and her equally retarded screed of bullshit and downright lies with zero historical context on the drafting of the 2nd Amendment.

“Basically, the Second Amendment is about killing Indians, taking their land, and increasingly, slave patrols,” Dunbar-Ortiz tells Truthdig Editor in Chief Robert Scheer in the latest installment of “Scheer Intelligence.” The “Loaded” author lays out the genocidal genealogy of the right to bear arms, and explains that, at its root, it ensured the ability of white men to oppress people of color in order to steal or keep stolen land, and to control slaves through slave patrols. To top it off, our current police forces, Dunbar-Ortiz goes on to argue, are essentially just modern-day slave patrols.

Why this type of peddled bullshit keeps rearing it's unfounded, noneducational head can only be for the sole purpose to make themselves look like they are real historians and to make the 2nd Amendment a black sheep of the Bill of Rights.

I mean for fucks sakes, pick up a copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers of the drafting of the Bill of Rights along with additional sources on the history of the 2nd Amendment, one of which is really good is one by David E. Vandercoy.

Grinning Dragon wrote:What do you get when you have some dipshit, halfwitted moron with barely two brain cells to rub together and doubles down on debunked bullshit espouse by the likes of thom hartmann?
You get the likes of a dumb cunt called Roxane Dunbar-Ortiz and her equally retarded screed of bullshit and downright lies with zero historical context on the drafting of the 2nd Amendment.

“Basically, the Second Amendment is about killing Indians, taking their land, and increasingly, slave patrols,” Dunbar-Ortiz tells Truthdig Editor in Chief Robert Scheer in the latest installment of “Scheer Intelligence.” The “Loaded” author lays out the genocidal genealogy of the right to bear arms, and explains that, at its root, it ensured the ability of white men to oppress people of color in order to steal or keep stolen land, and to control slaves through slave patrols. To top it off, our current police forces, Dunbar-Ortiz goes on to argue, are essentially just modern-day slave patrols.

Why this type of peddled bullshit keeps rearing it's unfounded, noneducational head can only be for the sole purpose to make themselves look like they are real historians and to make the 2nd Amendment a black sheep of the Bill of Rights.

I mean for fucks sakes, pick up a copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers of the drafting of the Bill of Rights along with additional sources on the history of the 2nd Amendment, one of which is really good is one by David E. Vandercoy.

Press "F" to pay respects to my brain cells...

>Scheer Intelligence
>private gun ownership be rayciss n shieet
>Intelligence

The Two Jerseys wrote:

Grinning Dragon wrote:What do you get when you have some dipshit, halfwitted moron with barely two brain cells to rub together and doubles down on debunked bullshit espouse by the likes of thom hartmann?
You get the likes of a dumb cunt called Roxane Dunbar-Ortiz and her equally retarded screed of bullshit and downright lies with zero historical context on the drafting of the 2nd Amendment.


Why this type of peddled bullshit keeps rearing it's unfounded, noneducational head can only be for the sole purpose to make themselves look like they are real historians and to make the 2nd Amendment a black sheep of the Bill of Rights.

I mean for fucks sakes, pick up a copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers of the drafting of the Bill of Rights along with additional sources on the history of the 2nd Amendment, one of which is really good is one by David E. Vandercoy.

Press "F" to pay respects to my brain cells...

I forgot the link to the article, fixed now.
With that said this is what came to mind when I read the article.

Ms. Roxane Dunbar-Ortiz, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Grinning Dragon wrote:What do you get when you have some dipshit, halfwitted moron with barely two brain cells to rub together and doubles down on debunked bullshit espouse by the likes of thom hartmann?
You get the likes of a dumb cunt called Roxane Dunbar-Ortiz and her equally retarded screed of bullshit and downright lies with zero historical context on the drafting of the 2nd Amendment.

“Basically, the Second Amendment is about killing Indians, taking their land, and increasingly, slave patrols,” Dunbar-Ortiz tells Truthdig Editor in Chief Robert Scheer in the latest installment of “Scheer Intelligence.” The “Loaded” author lays out the genocidal genealogy of the right to bear arms, and explains that, at its root, it ensured the ability of white men to oppress people of color in order to steal or keep stolen land, and to control slaves through slave patrols. To top it off, our current police forces, Dunbar-Ortiz goes on to argue, are essentially just modern-day slave patrols.

Why this type of peddled bullshit keeps rearing it's unfounded, noneducational head can only be for the sole purpose to make themselves look like they are real historians and to make the 2nd Amendment a black sheep of the Bill of Rights.

I mean for fucks sakes, pick up a copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers of the drafting of the Bill of Rights along with additional sources on the history of the 2nd Amendment, one of which is really good is one by David E. Vandercoy.

How can the human race produce someone so dumb it makes a 2010s Adam Sandler movies look like the most well written masterpieces of our fucking time

Loben The 2nd wrote:

Grinning Dragon wrote:What do you get when you have some dipshit, halfwitted moron with barely two brain cells to rub together and doubles down on debunked bullshit espouse by the likes of thom hartmann?
You get the likes of a dumb cunt called Roxane Dunbar-Ortiz and her equally retarded screed of bullshit and downright lies with zero historical context on the drafting of the 2nd Amendment.


Why this type of peddled bullshit keeps rearing it's unfounded, noneducational head can only be for the sole purpose to make themselves look like they are real historians and to make the 2nd Amendment a black sheep of the Bill of Rights.

I mean for fucks sakes, pick up a copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers of the drafting of the Bill of Rights along with additional sources on the history of the 2nd Amendment, one of which is really good is one by David E. Vandercoy.

How can the human race produce someone so dumb it makes a 2010s Adam Sandler movies look like the most well written masterpieces of our fucking time

I often wonder those retards that write such drivel are covering up or using misdirection for the known fact that it is gun control that is rooted in racism, bigotry, white supremacy, and genocide. Its the reason why it was implemented in the first place; to stop non-whites from owning firearms.
One would have to be an easily deceived moron to believe the likes of hartmann and dunbar-ortiz.

Grinning Dragon wrote:What do you get when you have some dipshit, halfwitted moron with barely two brain cells to rub together and doubles down on debunked bullshit espouse by the likes of thom hartmann?
You get the likes of a dumb cunt called Roxane Dunbar-Ortiz and her equally retarded screed of bullshit and downright lies with zero historical context on the drafting of the 2nd Amendment.

“Basically, the Second Amendment is about killing Indians, taking their land, and increasingly, slave patrols,” Dunbar-Ortiz tells Truthdig Editor in Chief Robert Scheer in the latest installment of “Scheer Intelligence.” The “Loaded” author lays out the genocidal genealogy of the right to bear arms, and explains that, at its root, it ensured the ability of white men to oppress people of color in order to steal or keep stolen land, and to control slaves through slave patrols. To top it off, our current police forces, Dunbar-Ortiz goes on to argue, are essentially just modern-day slave patrols.

Why this type of peddled bullshit keeps rearing it's unfounded, noneducational head can only be for the sole purpose to make themselves look like they are real historians and to make the 2nd Amendment a black sheep of the Bill of Rights.

I mean for fucks sakes, pick up a copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers of the drafting of the Bill of Rights along with additional sources on the history of the 2nd Amendment, one of which is really good is one by David E. Vandercoy.

Irony is the NRA kinda-sorta helped arm the recently freed slaves and train them how to shoot safely/properly.
(With the exception of refusing to cooperate with the Black Panther Society)

Which at the time was doing these sorts of shenanigans in the local capitols in 1967

"To us there was no Constitution, no such thing as 'moral persuasion' – the only thing left was the bullet...I advocated violent self-defense because I don't really think you can have a defense against violent racists and against terrorists unless you are prepared to meet violence with violence, and my policy was to meet violence with violence."
~Robert Williams

Inner-city gun-safety is still sorta an ongoing priority.

Torrocca wrote:

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Best take in the whole thread.

Australian news is reporting a "mass shooting" at a graduation party in Southwest Philadelphia last night.

Naturally this shooting is all over American news like the Parkland and Virginia Beach shootings were, right?

Wrong, American media doesn't care about it because Southwest Philly is a black neighborhood.

The Two Jerseys wrote:Australian news is reporting a "mass shooting" at a graduation party in Southwest Philadelphia last night.

Naturally this shooting is all over American news like the Parkland and Virginia Beach shootings were, right?

Wrong, American media doesn't care about it because Southwest Philly is a black neighborhood.

I think it's less about black neighborhood and american already numb to shooting in general to be the main driving force for the apathy.

Mojave Confederation wrote:

The Two Jerseys wrote:Australian news is reporting a "mass shooting" at a graduation party in Southwest Philadelphia last night.

Naturally this shooting is all over American news like the Parkland and Virginia Beach shootings were, right?

Wrong, American media doesn't care about it because Southwest Philly is a black neighborhood.

I think it's less about black neighborhood and american already numb to shooting in general to be the main driving force for the apathy.

Two Jersey's is on point with this, lots of black folks and probably no white folks. Since this shooting was most likely gang related, wasn't at a school, church, etc. and the shooter is most likely black and not white, the major news media is going to let it fade into the dark, since they wouldn't be able to dance in the victims blood in hopes to stir up some outrage and push and promote an anti gun agenda.
All roads lead to the same point, all of these shooting lay bare at the feet of anti gunners, gun control kills, gun control is based on racism, bigotry, authoritarianism, and never about safety.

Grinning Dragon wrote:

Mojave Confederation wrote:I think it's less about black neighborhood and american already numb to shooting in general to be the main driving force for the apathy.

Two Jersey's is on point with this, lots of black folks and probably no white folks. Since this shooting was most likely gang related, wasn't at a school, church, etc. and the shooter is most likely black and not white, the major news media is going to let it fade into the dark, since they wouldn't be able to dance in the victims blood in hopes to stir up some outrage and push and promote an anti gun agenda.
All roads lead to the same point, all of these shooting lay bare at the feet of anti gunners, gun control kills, gun control is based on racism, bigotry, authoritarianism, and never about safety.

That really makes a crapload of sense.

Grinning Dragon wrote:

Mojave Confederation wrote:I think it's less about black neighborhood and american already numb to shooting in general to be the main driving force for the apathy.

Two Jersey's is on point with this, lots of black folks and probably no white folks. Since this shooting was most likely gang related, wasn't at a school, church, etc. and the shooter is most likely black and not white, the major news media is going to let it fade into the dark, since they wouldn't be able to dance in the victims blood in hopes to stir up some outrage and push and promote an anti gun agenda.
All roads lead to the same point, all of these shooting lay bare at the feet of anti gunners, gun control kills, gun control is based on racism, bigotry, authoritarianism, and never about safety.

what?

Maybe I'm too foreign for this, but which part of gang crimes is unusable to promote an anti-gun agenda? It just seems to me they cannot stir an outrage because this isn't a news anymore, the american people are too used with public shooting, especially in the ghettos. That's why it was mildly surprising when it was at school, church, etc. Mildly, mind you, at this point I don't think school shooting news sell anymore.

Loben The 2nd wrote:

Grinning Dragon wrote:What do you get when you have some dipshit, halfwitted moron with barely two brain cells to rub together and doubles down on debunked bullshit espouse by the likes of thom hartmann?
You get the likes of a dumb cunt called Roxane Dunbar-Ortiz and her equally retarded screed of bullshit and downright lies with zero historical context on the drafting of the 2nd Amendment.


Why this type of peddled bullshit keeps rearing it's unfounded, noneducational head can only be for the sole purpose to make themselves look like they are real historians and to make the 2nd Amendment a black sheep of the Bill of Rights.

I mean for fucks sakes, pick up a copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers of the drafting of the Bill of Rights along with additional sources on the history of the 2nd Amendment, one of which is really good is one by David E. Vandercoy.

How can the human race produce someone so dumb it makes a 2010s Adam Sandler movies look like the most well written masterpieces of our fucking time

Billy Madison came out in 1995.

Gun Manufacturers wrote:

Loben The 2nd wrote:
How can the human race produce someone so dumb it makes a 2010s Adam Sandler movies look like the most well written masterpieces of our fucking time

Billy Madison came out in 1995.

no the ignorance of the anti-gun/anti-constitution crowd here is enough to make X-Men Dark Phoenix look like Avengers Endgame

Mojave Confederation wrote:

Grinning Dragon wrote:Two Jersey's is on point with this, lots of black folks and probably no white folks. Since this shooting was most likely gang related, wasn't at a school, church, etc. and the shooter is most likely black and not white, the major news media is going to let it fade into the dark, since they wouldn't be able to dance in the victims blood in hopes to stir up some outrage and push and promote an anti gun agenda.
All roads lead to the same point, all of these shooting lay bare at the feet of anti gunners, gun control kills, gun control is based on racism, bigotry, authoritarianism, and never about safety.

what?

Maybe I'm too foreign for this, but which part of gang crimes is unusable to promote an anti-gun agenda? It just seems to me they cannot stir an outrage because this isn't a news anymore, the American people are too used with public shooting, especially in the ghettos. That's why it was mildly surprising when it was at school, church, etc. Mildly, mind you, at this point I don't think school shooting news sell anymore.

If it were, the major news media would be pushing their dancin' in the blood special nightly, complete with moronic talking heads who espouse some of the dumbest shit about firearms and firearm laws. Major news media drops certain shootings like a hot potato if it doesn't fit their narrative, which seems to be when it involves a white guy, with an evil black gun and a clipazine that holds a gajillion rounds.
Black guy gunning down people, eh not so much, gets a days worth of bloviation, then slips into obscurity.
Victims of a shooting that blame the shooter and or gun control laws, gets maybe at most 2 days of bloviating, then slips into obscurity.
Once the firearm is identified and it isn't an evil black gun with a clipazine that holds a gajillion rounds, get's a days worth of bloviating, then slips into obscurity.

If it weren't for double standards the media wouldn't have any standards, let alone anyone in the media that has any knowledge or facts about the shooting, firearms, firearm laws, etc.
Getting on the air and acting like a sufferer of sand in vagina syndrome isn't news, it's a cry baby bitch session filled with raw emotion

First Toronto, now Dallas.
Gunman Opens Fire on Federal Courthouse in Dallas

Earlier today in downtown Dallas, Texas, a 22-year-old man in a balaclava and “combat gear” opened fire at the outside of a federal courthouse. It wasn’t long before good guys with guns returned fire and ended up killing the gunman. Thankfully this happened before any innocents or officers were injured. From the sounds of it, the gunman wasn’t anywhere near out of ammo and may have had an explosive device in his vehicle . . .

According to Dallas News:

Dallas police detonated a suspicious device about 10:40 a.m. that was found in the 2003 Nissan Altima Clyde had driven to the courthouse. The blast was strong enough to shake sapling trees blocks away.

DeSarno would not confirm Monday afternoon whether law enforcement found explosives inside the car.

I love how the dallasnews dipshits calls his AR an assault rifle.

A man in a mask and combat gear was fatally shot Monday morning in downtown Dallas after he opened fire with an assault rifle outside the Earle Cabell Federal Building. No one else was injured.

Anything to push that bullshit narrative that a modern semi-auto rifle is the same thing as a M16 or a M240b, etc.

Grinning Dragon wrote:First Toronto, now Dallas.
Gunman Opens Fire on Federal Courthouse in Dallas

Earlier today in downtown Dallas, Texas, a 22-year-old man in a balaclava and “combat gear” opened fire at the outside of a federal courthouse. It wasn’t long before good guys with guns returned fire and ended up killing the gunman. Thankfully this happened before any innocents or officers were injured. From the sounds of it, the gunman wasn’t anywhere near out of ammo and may have had an explosive device in his vehicle . . .

According to Dallas News:

Dallas police detonated a suspicious device about 10:40 a.m. that was found in the 2003 Nissan Altima Clyde had driven to the courthouse. The blast was strong enough to shake sapling trees blocks away.

DeSarno would not confirm Monday afternoon whether law enforcement found explosives inside the car.

As gump used to say stupid is as stupid does.

Grinning Dragon wrote:First Toronto, now Dallas.
Gunman Opens Fire on Federal Courthouse in Dallas

You can tell this guy was a cosplay larper, he looks like an extra getting surprised by an amateur camera.

Licana wrote:

Grinning Dragon wrote:First Toronto, now Dallas.
Gunman Opens Fire on Federal Courthouse in Dallas

You can tell this guy was a cosplay larper, he looks like an extra getting surprised by an amateur camera.

I did laugh when I saw that pic.
Ran across a Heavy.com article on the guy, seems he was in the Army.

“Private 1st Class Clyde served as an infantryman in the Army from August 2015 to February 2017,” William J. Sharp, public affairs officer for the U.S. Army, confirmed to Heavy.
He also posted memes that reference the so-called incel movement

Brian Clyde: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
The dude seems all kinds of fucked in the head, while reading the article.

Grinning Dragon wrote:First Toronto, now Dallas.
Gunman Opens Fire on Federal Courthouse in Dallas

Earlier today in downtown Dallas, Texas, a 22-year-old man in a balaclava and “combat gear” opened fire at the outside of a federal courthouse. It wasn’t long before good guys with guns returned fire and ended up killing the gunman. Thankfully this happened before any innocents or officers were injured. From the sounds of it, the gunman wasn’t anywhere near out of ammo and may have had an explosive device in his vehicle . . .

According to Dallas News:

Dallas police detonated a suspicious device about 10:40 a.m. that was found in the 2003 Nissan Altima Clyde had driven to the courthouse. The blast was strong enough to shake sapling trees blocks away.

DeSarno would not confirm Monday afternoon whether law enforcement found explosives inside the car.

I love how the dallasnews dipshits calls his AR an assault rifle.

A man in a mask and combat gear was fatally shot Monday morning in downtown Dallas after he opened fire with an assault rifle outside the Earle Cabell Federal Building. No one else was injured.

Anything to push that bullshit narrative that a modern semi-auto rifle is the same thing as a M16 or a M240b, etc.

I assume that it looked like one of those spooky guns! It looks like one of those fancy military guns so it's gotta be dangerous!

Grinning Dragon wrote:

Licana wrote:

You can tell this guy was a cosplay larper, he looks like an extra getting surprised by an amateur camera.

I did laugh when I saw that pic.
Ran across a Heavy.com article on the guy, seems he was in the Army.

“Private 1st Class Clyde served as an infantryman in the Army from August 2015 to February 2017,” William J. Sharp, public affairs officer for the U.S. Army, confirmed to Heavy.
He also posted memes that reference the so-called incel movement

Brian Clyde: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
The dude seems all kinds of fucked in the head, while reading the article.

Can't trust those farbs.

Grinning Dragon wrote:

Licana wrote:

You can tell this guy was a cosplay larper, he looks like an extra getting surprised by an amateur camera.

I did laugh when I saw that pic.
Ran across a Heavy.com article on the guy, seems he was in the Army.

“Private 1st Class Clyde served as an infantryman in the Army from August 2015 to February 2017,” William J. Sharp, public affairs officer for the U.S. Army, confirmed to Heavy.
He also posted memes that reference the so-called incel movement

Brian Clyde: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
The dude seems all kinds of fucked in the head, while reading the article.

So basically from what I’ve seen the guy was trying to kickstart the boogaloo or at least do something to gain notoriety, and instead all he’s probably ended up achieving is kickstarting/reinforcing/whatever the gun control debates here in the US. what a sperg.

Barboneia wrote:

Grinning Dragon wrote:
I did laugh when I saw that pic.
Ran across a Heavy.com article on the guy, seems he was in the Army.

Brian Clyde: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
The dude seems all kinds of fucked in the head, while reading the article.

So basically from what I’ve seen the guy was trying to kickstart the boogaloo or at least do something to gain notoriety, and instead all he’s probably ended up achieving is kickstarting/reinforcing/whatever the gun control debates here in the US. what a sperg.

Kickstarting the gun debate even more is a pretty solid way of trying to start the Boogaloo tbh

Grinning Dragon wrote:

Licana wrote:

You can tell this guy was a cosplay larper, he looks like an extra getting surprised by an amateur camera.

I did laugh when I saw that pic.
Ran across a Heavy.com article on the guy, seems he was in the Army.

“Private 1st Class Clyde served as an infantryman in the Army from August 2015 to February 2017,” William J. Sharp, public affairs officer for the U.S. Army, confirmed to Heavy.
He also posted memes that reference the so-called incel movement

Brian Clyde: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
The dude seems all kinds of fucked in the head, while reading the article.

Naturally, the mental health angle will be completely ignored by the mainstream news.