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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:39 am

Esternial wrote:I understand trying to think for the wellbeing of humanity, but when you get to a point where you're treating humans as resources I don't really understand what you're trying to achieve.

But sure, I suppose we now all know how woke you are.


If you're treating humans as resources, you're probably doing project management.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:41 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Esternial wrote:I understand trying to think for the wellbeing of humanity, but when you get to a point where you're treating humans as resources I don't really understand what you're trying to achieve.

But sure, I suppose we now all know how woke you are.


If you're treating humans as resources, you're probably doing project management.

Or you're in HR.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:45 am

Esternial wrote:Odd how you immediately assumed I was complaining for the women and defaulted to reactionary misogyny.


It's not odd at all. And it's not misogyny, it's facts. Unless of course, facts are now misogynistic.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:48 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Esternial wrote:Odd how you immediately assumed I was complaining for the women and defaulted to reactionary misogyny.


It's not odd at all. And it's not misogyny, it's facts. Unless of course, facts are now misogynistic.

I don't think you know what "fact" means.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:49 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Esternial wrote:Odd how you immediately assumed I was complaining for the women and defaulted to reactionary misogyny.


It's not odd at all. And it's not misogyny, it's facts. Unless of course, facts are now misogynistic.


Nah. Reality has a liberal bias.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:50 am

Esternial wrote:I don't think you know what "fact" means.


So why am I the only one providing them?

The blAAtschApen wrote:Nah. Reality has a liberal bias.


If the reality is an alternate one, certainly.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:55 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
It's not odd at all. And it's not misogyny, it's facts. Unless of course, facts are now misogynistic.


Nah. Reality has a liberal bias.

I'm a traditionalist, sheep-man. Don't throw me in with this lot. They're irrational rationalists. I'm a rational irrationalist.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:08 am

Fahran wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:
Nah. Reality has a liberal bias.

I'm a traditionalist, sheep-man. Don't throw me in with this lot. They're irrational rationalists. I'm a rational irrationalist.


Both you and Costa should google my sentence. It's a slightly mangled version of what Stephen Colbert once said.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:09 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Esternial wrote:I don't think you know what "fact" means.


So why am I the only one providing them?

Simple. For example, I take a pen and call it a 'fact'. Sensibly, nobody else would call a pen a 'fact', thus I am the only one who's handing out 'facts' to people, because what I (you) call facts is actually pens (gibberish).

And don't ask me where I get so many pens.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:12 am

Esternial wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:So why am I the only one providing them?

Simple. For example, I take a pen and call it a 'fact'. Sensibly, nobody else would call a pen a 'fact', thus I am the only one who's handing out 'facts' to people, because what I (you) call facts is actually pens (gibberish).

And don't ask me where I get so many pens.

You are a literate person, so it is only logical that you own a multitude of pens.


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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:13 am

Esternial wrote:Simple. For example, I take a pen and call it a 'fact'. Sensibly, nobody else would call a pen a 'fact', thus I am the only one who's handing out 'facts' to people, because what I (you) call facts is actually pens (gibberish).

And don't ask me where I get so many pens.


So it's not historically correct to say that humans were treated like resources throughout history but people only started caring when it negatively affected women? Sure, it's a long time between deciding this plant is delicious and keeping more of it around and women getting the vote, but the essence of what I was saying still remains.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:13 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:Both you and Costa should google my sentence. It's a slightly mangled version of what Stephen Colbert once said.

I know. I'm a millennial. Where do you think I get my news? :p

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:17 am

Fahran wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:Both you and Costa should google my sentence. It's a slightly mangled version of what Stephen Colbert once said.

I know. I'm a millennial. Where do you think I get my news? :p


Twitter.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:18 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Fahran wrote:I know. I'm a millennial. Where do you think I get my news? :p


Twitter.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:58 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I did a brief Google and did not find anything, can you point towards a source? Singapore is a weird enough place to do something like that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_De ... nt_Network


Like I said, they are weird enough to do so. Thanks
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:02 am

Esternial wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
So why am I the only one providing them?

Simple. For example, I take a pen and call it a 'fact'. Sensibly, nobody else would call a pen a 'fact', thus I am the only one who's handing out 'facts' to people, because what I (you) call facts is actually pens (gibberish).

And don't ask me where I get so many pens.


Swiping them from HR 's supply CLOSET it seems.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:11 am

Ethel mermania wrote:Swiping them from HR 's supply CLOSET it seems.

I wanna file a complaint for workplace harassment. :p

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Postby Aision » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:14 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Esternial wrote:I don't think you know what "fact" means.


So why am I the only one providing them?

The blAAtschApen wrote:Nah. Reality has a liberal bias.


If the reality is an alternate one, certainly.

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Postby Thama » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:01 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Thama wrote:This is absolute bullshit.
I'm a naturally shy and mostly introverted person, and I've had no problem making tonnes of friends. Communities are larger and more vibrant than ever. The only thing that keeps people out of them is the toxic assurance of their being somehow innately unable to be part of communities by other people who were also led to believe that. It's a vicious cycle, but it has no root in reality.

We are incredibly social animals, and the development of technology and culture in the past two centuries isn't making us less social, it's bringing people from across the world together closer than ever. And this is also the reason that the toxic ideas of this "distribution of spouses" bullshit came about - a community of entitled brats who have locked eachother in a depressing pathological echo chamber.

Your experience doesn't make absolute truth. I've gone out and tried to make friends, yet I have no social connections despite trying for three years. Does that make your experience irrelevant?

Moreover, as I said, mental illness is a little more than just being shy and introverted. Some of these people struggle with basic social functions, as I do.

Mate now you're ignoring the main, previous point of what I've been saying for days - that mental healthcare being shit is one of the prime things needing fixing to solve this crap.

Yes, my experiences aren't universal. I'm well aware of the significance of the difference between anecdotal and systematic data, I'm a chemist.

The whole point is that mentally ill people need better help to prevent falling into mind traps like this, and people who are more neurotypical need to stop believing in this incel fuckery, grow some fucking balls, learn to respect others, and get out there and make friends.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:14 am

Thama wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Your experience doesn't make absolute truth. I've gone out and tried to make friends, yet I have no social connections despite trying for three years. Does that make your experience irrelevant?

Moreover, as I said, mental illness is a little more than just being shy and introverted. Some of these people struggle with basic social functions, as I do.

Mate now you're ignoring the main, previous point of what I've been saying for days - that mental healthcare being shit is one of the prime things needing fixing to solve this crap.

Yes, my experiences aren't universal. I'm well aware of the significance of the difference between anecdotal and systematic data, I'm a chemist.

The whole point is that mentally ill people need better help to prevent falling into mind traps like this, and people who are more neurotypical need to stop believing in this incel fuckery, grow some fucking balls, learn to respect others, and get out there and make friends.

It's not just a matter of mental healthcare. Putting mentally-ill incels on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics won't magically make them neurotypical or socially integrated. For that a change in society is needed.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:30 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Thama wrote:Mate now you're ignoring the main, previous point of what I've been saying for days - that mental healthcare being shit is one of the prime things needing fixing to solve this crap.

Yes, my experiences aren't universal. I'm well aware of the significance of the difference between anecdotal and systematic data, I'm a chemist.

The whole point is that mentally ill people need better help to prevent falling into mind traps like this, and people who are more neurotypical need to stop believing in this incel fuckery, grow some fucking balls, learn to respect others, and get out there and make friends.

It's not just a matter of mental healthcare. Putting mentally-ill incels on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics won't magically make them neurotypical or socially integrated. For that a change in society is needed.


A society that is more accepting of differences between people :)
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Postby Kubra » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:06 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Kubra wrote: Those who commit suicide are, compared to those who die of other means, statistically insignificant. Generally speaking, a person doesn't have to worry too much about suicide, at least if they look at it as a numbers game.
So again: if statistical insignificance is the same thing as non-existence, wouldn't the statement be true?


No, because it's demonstrably false. No one has demonstrated anything beyond "nuh uh".
Those who commit suicide are, compared to those who die of other means, statistically insignificant. Generally speaking, a person doesn't have to worry too much about suicide, at least if they look at it as a numbers game.
So again: if statistical insignificance is the same thing as non-existence, wouldn't the statement be true?
Come now, your own words, statistical insignificance is the same as non-existence. If you're not going to own what you say, why say it?
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Postby Cappuccina » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:51 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:I’m still figuring out how forcing people into marriage will make people happier

It isn't about making people happier, it's about catering to the entitlement of incels and people like them. Since they "can't " get people to like them the normal way they'd want an intrusive system similar to this.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:17 pm

The blAAtschApen wrote:
Fahran wrote:I'm a traditionalist, sheep-man. Don't throw me in with this lot. They're irrational rationalists. I'm a rational irrationalist.


Both you and Costa should google my sentence. It's a slightly mangled version of what Stephen Colbert once said.

In truth though, both liberalism and conservativism are two sides of the same coin. American politics especially, is based on an illusion of choice. Both parties represent the interests of big corporations and the media. Any differences they have are simply there to mislead the public into thinking that they have the power to facilitate real change. Reality doesn’t pick between twins. It picks between opposites.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:45 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:In truth though, both liberalism and conservatism are two sides of the same coin.

No.

West Leas Oros wrote:American politics especially, is based on an illusion of choice.

All the major political parties in the United States are liberal. Some are progressives; others are classical liberals.

West Leas Oros wrote:Both parties represent the interests of big corporations and the media.

Sounds edgy.

West Leas Oros wrote:Any differences they have are simply there to mislead the public into thinking that they have the power to facilitate real change.

They do - to an extent.

West Leas Oros wrote:Reality doesn’t pick between twins. It picks between opposites.

Again, edgy.

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