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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I never stopped wearing my mask. Even if Covid does pass entirely I'm probably not gonna stop, I hated it at first but it's kinda nice not having to breath in everyones nastiness when I'm out and about.

Neanderthaland wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I never stopped wearing my mask. Even if Covid does pass entirely I'm probably not gonna stop, I hated it at first but it's kinda nice not having to breath in everyones nastiness when I'm out and about.

I was glad I had mine today. Smoke from fires out West has been blowing over my state, blanketing us is toxic haze. It's like vacationing in Beijing.

Thermodolia wrote:

Loeje wrote:There are also people who are allergic to the vaccines that are currently authorized. They're not all anti-vaxxers.

Well considering that the vaccine in question is made from mRNA it’s unlikely that people will be allergic to it.

That tends to only happen if it’s a live virus that’s grown in eggs.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Tarsonis wrote:

I've only ever been to the Majestic, but I didn't think it was that bad.

On Broadway right? Yea now that you mention it; it wasn't that bad.

I have been to many others where I have to sit a weird angles to fit in. Note: I am 5'10'' Poor Mrs. Bumi is 6'2'' Going to the bathroom means climbing over everybody else as there is NO maneuver room. It's part of that "profit" lumen talks about.

Kowani wrote:Minor crosspost, but: House adjourns without extending eviction moratorium

Neanderthaland wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I never stopped wearing my mask. Even if Covid does pass entirely I'm probably not gonna stop, I hated it at first but it's kinda nice not having to breath in everyones nastiness when I'm out and about.

I was glad I had mine today. Smoke from fires out West has been blowing over my state, blanketing us is toxic haze. It's like vacationing in Beijing.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I never stopped wearing my mask. Even if Covid does pass entirely I'm probably not gonna stop, I hated it at first but it's kinda nice not having to breath in everyones nastiness when I'm out and about.

Thermodolia wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Tbh I never stopped wearing my mask. Even if Covid does pass entirely I'm probably not gonna stop, I hated it at first but it's kinda nice not having to breath in everyones nastiness when I'm out and about.

It’s going to stay in hospitals which in my opinion is the best thing ever. I’ll probably still wear it on planes because people are nasty

The Free Joy State wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Well considering that the vaccine in question is made from mRNA it’s unlikely that people will be allergic to it.

That tends to only happen if it’s a live virus that’s grown in eggs.

While true that an egg allergy wasn't a problem for me getting the COVID vaccine (and I couldn't get a flu vaccine for years until my local NHS authority bought in cell-grown vaccines), I do seem to remember there being some allergies where you couldn't have a COVID vaccine. But I've put my info away now, and don't remember what.

Vassenor wrote:And now it turns out that despite Lumen's edicts that it be considered impossible Broadway theaters are trying out mandatory masking for audience members.

Kowani wrote:Minor crosspost, but: House adjourns without extending eviction moratorium

The Alma Mater wrote:

The Free Joy State wrote:While true that an egg allergy wasn't a problem for me getting the COVID vaccine (and I couldn't get a flu vaccine for years until my local NHS authority bought in cell-grown vaccines), I do seem to remember there being some allergies where you couldn't have a COVID vaccine. But I've put my info away now, and don't remember what.

None of them ? I mean, we have mRNA, vector and plain old "have some real but weakened covid injected in you" vaccines now; although admittedly the last one is not used in the west.

I can imagine being allergic to one of them; but all ?

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated against the coronavirus with four of them ending up in the hospital, according to new data published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people, and could spread it to other individuals.

“This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC’s updated mask recommendation,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in a statement. “The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones.”

On Tuesday, the CDC reversed course on its prior guidance and recommended fully vaccinated Americans who live in areas with high Covid infection rates resume wearing face masks indoors. The guidelines cover about two-thirds of the U.S. population, according to a CNBC analysis.

While the delta variant continues to hit unvaccinated people the hardest, some vaccinated people could be carrying higher levels of the virus than previously understood and are potentially transmitting it to others, Walensky told reporters on a call Tuesday. She added the variant behaves “uniquely differently from past strains of the virus.”

A CDC document that was reviewed by CNBC warned that the delta variant sweeping across the country is as contagious as chickenpox, has a longer transmission window than the original Covid strain and may make older people sicker, even if they’ve been fully vaccinated.

Delta, now in at least 132 countries and already the dominant form of the disease in the United States, is more transmissible than the common cold, the 1918 Spanish flu, smallpox, Ebola, MERS and SARS, according to the document. Only measles appears to spread faster than the variant.

The data published Friday was based on 469 cases of Covid associated with multiple summer events and large public gatherings held in July in Barnstable County, Massachusetts, which encompasses Cape Cod and is just outside Martha’s Vineyard. The events were held in Provincetown, according to NBC News. Approximately three-quarters, or 74%, of the cases occurred in fully vaccinated people who had completed a two-dose course of the mRNA vaccines or received a single shot of Johnson & Johnson’s.

Overall, 274 vaccinated patients with a breakthrough infection were symptomatic, according to the CDC. The most common side effects were cough, headache, sore throat, muscle pain and fever. Among five Covid patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated, according to the agency. No deaths were reported.

Testing identified the delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients.

While numerous studies have shown that the vaccines don’t work as well against the delta variant as they did against other strains, health officials say they are still highly effective, especially in protecting against severe illness and death. Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals, U.S. health officials repeated this week.

The CDC also said the data has limitations. The agency noted that as population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of Covid cases. Additionally, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias, the agency said.

The CDC also said the report is “insufficient” to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of the authorized vaccines against Covid, including the delta variant, during this outbreak.

Kannap wrote:CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts outbreak are fully vaccinated

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated against the coronavirus with four of them ending up in the hospital, according to new data published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people, and could spread it to other individuals.

“This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC’s updated mask recommendation,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in a statement. “The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones.”

On Tuesday, the CDC reversed course on its prior guidance and recommended fully vaccinated Americans who live in areas with high Covid infection rates resume wearing face masks indoors. The guidelines cover about two-thirds of the U.S. population, according to a CNBC analysis.

While the delta variant continues to hit unvaccinated people the hardest, some vaccinated people could be carrying higher levels of the virus than previously understood and are potentially transmitting it to others, Walensky told reporters on a call Tuesday. She added the variant behaves “uniquely differently from past strains of the virus.”

A CDC document that was reviewed by CNBC warned that the delta variant sweeping across the country is as contagious as chickenpox, has a longer transmission window than the original Covid strain and may make older people sicker, even if they’ve been fully vaccinated.

Delta, now in at least 132 countries and already the dominant form of the disease in the United States, is more transmissible than the common cold, the 1918 Spanish flu, smallpox, Ebola, MERS and SARS, according to the document. Only measles appears to spread faster than the variant.

The data published Friday was based on 469 cases of Covid associated with multiple summer events and large public gatherings held in July in Barnstable County, Massachusetts, which encompasses Cape Cod and is just outside Martha’s Vineyard. The events were held in Provincetown, according to NBC News. Approximately three-quarters, or 74%, of the cases occurred in fully vaccinated people who had completed a two-dose course of the mRNA vaccines or received a single shot of Johnson & Johnson’s.

Overall, 274 vaccinated patients with a breakthrough infection were symptomatic, according to the CDC. The most common side effects were cough, headache, sore throat, muscle pain and fever. Among five Covid patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated, according to the agency. No deaths were reported.

Testing identified the delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients.

While numerous studies have shown that the vaccines don’t work as well against the delta variant as they did against other strains, health officials say they are still highly effective, especially in protecting against severe illness and death. Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals, U.S. health officials repeated this week.

The CDC also said the data has limitations. The agency noted that as population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of Covid cases. Additionally, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias, the agency said.

The CDC also said the report is “insufficient” to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of the authorized vaccines against Covid, including the delta variant, during this outbreak.

Grave_n_idle wrote:

Kannap wrote:CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts outbreak are fully vaccinated

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated against the coronavirus with four of them ending up in the hospital, according to new data published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people, and could spread it to other individuals.

“This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC’s updated mask recommendation,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in a statement. “The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones.”

On Tuesday, the CDC reversed course on its prior guidance and recommended fully vaccinated Americans who live in areas with high Covid infection rates resume wearing face masks indoors. The guidelines cover about two-thirds of the U.S. population, according to a CNBC analysis.

While the delta variant continues to hit unvaccinated people the hardest, some vaccinated people could be carrying higher levels of the virus than previously understood and are potentially transmitting it to others, Walensky told reporters on a call Tuesday. She added the variant behaves “uniquely differently from past strains of the virus.”

A CDC document that was reviewed by CNBC warned that the delta variant sweeping across the country is as contagious as chickenpox, has a longer transmission window than the original Covid strain and may make older people sicker, even if they’ve been fully vaccinated.

Delta, now in at least 132 countries and already the dominant form of the disease in the United States, is more transmissible than the common cold, the 1918 Spanish flu, smallpox, Ebola, MERS and SARS, according to the document. Only measles appears to spread faster than the variant.

The data published Friday was based on 469 cases of Covid associated with multiple summer events and large public gatherings held in July in Barnstable County, Massachusetts, which encompasses Cape Cod and is just outside Martha’s Vineyard. The events were held in Provincetown, according to NBC News. Approximately three-quarters, or 74%, of the cases occurred in fully vaccinated people who had completed a two-dose course of the mRNA vaccines or received a single shot of Johnson & Johnson’s.

Overall, 274 vaccinated patients with a breakthrough infection were symptomatic, according to the CDC. The most common side effects were cough, headache, sore throat, muscle pain and fever. Among five Covid patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated, according to the agency. No deaths were reported.

Testing identified the delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients.

While numerous studies have shown that the vaccines don’t work as well against the delta variant as they did against other strains, health officials say they are still highly effective, especially in protecting against severe illness and death. Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals, U.S. health officials repeated this week.

The CDC also said the data has limitations. The agency noted that as population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of Covid cases. Additionally, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias, the agency said.

The CDC also said the report is “insufficient” to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of the authorized vaccines against Covid, including the delta variant, during this outbreak.

Massachusetts has about 65% full vaccination, so 75% of a group being vaccinated isn't unlikely - and more likely if you're looking at risk groups, like people gathering maskless. Only 4 were serious enough to need hospital care, though - that's where the vaccinations are really shining at the moment.

Maricarland wrote:I am now of the opinion that we should have a vaccine passport/ID to be allowed to enter public buildings (whether you are a worker, a customer, or anything else), and if you are not vaccinated you may not enter (with an exception for grocery stores, doctor offices, and other essentials, in which case all people vaccinated or not should be under a mask mandate). People's personal right not to have their health and safety threatened trumps other people's civil right to go out in public (not to mention this protects the unvaccinated as well).

We can lift the vaccine passport when we have 70% - 85% of the global population (total population, not adult population) vaccinated, and 70% - 85% of the local population vaccinated. It must be both, however, the global population and the local population must meet this threshold to lift the vaccine passport.

Major-Tom wrote:

Maricarland wrote:I am now of the opinion that we should have a vaccine passport/ID to be allowed to enter public buildings (whether you are a worker, a customer, or anything else), and if you are not vaccinated you may not enter (with an exception for grocery stores, doctor offices, and other essentials, in which case all people vaccinated or not should be under a mask mandate). People's personal right not to have their health and safety threatened trumps other people's civil right to go out in public (not to mention this protects the unvaccinated as well).

We can lift the vaccine passport when we have 70% - 85% of the global population (total population, not adult population) vaccinated, and 70% - 85% of the local population vaccinated. It must be both, however, the global population and the local population must meet this threshold to lift the vaccine passport.

I mean...some local businesses (bars & restaurants mostly) where I am are doing that currently. The only hassle for me is that I lost my vaccination card, and now have to show some grainy PDF demonstrating that I did, in fact, get my shots.

Maricarland wrote:

Major-Tom wrote:
I mean...some local businesses (bars & restaurants mostly) where I am are doing that currently. The only hassle for me is that I lost my vaccination card, and now have to show some grainy PDF demonstrating that I did, in fact, get my shots.

They should make it easy to get a photo ID, and to replace such an ID, that proves you were vaccinated.

Maricarland wrote:God is stronger than a virus.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Maricarland wrote:God is stronger than a virus.

What if God commanded COVID19 to be created in his infinite omniscience and omnipotence?