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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
23
18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
32
25%
 
Total votes : 129

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:52 am

Torrocca wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Clearly you have since all you can muster is just incessantly repeating yourself.


Ah, yet again we see another "no u!" aimed to deflect from the fact that you peddle Nazism by advocating for your political opposition to be gassed. Amazing as always, NC. :3

Unironically, I don't care anymore. I'm just curious how many times you're going to repeat:
by advocating for your political opposition to be gassed. 
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:52 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:with your repeated attempts to make yourself look like a jester. now that we've cut through that paper thin mask, we get to phase two. this is a leftist thread and you get annoyed that we start giving you heat for being on the right. not very perceptive, are you.

People with rightist sympathies poster here rather frequently.

You stated I had rightist sympathies as if you were a Soviet official discovering a Western spy.

at least those others try to make some kind of formal debate rather than just slinging crap around
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:53 am

Darussalam wrote:"Very large/small number" isn't a qualitative claim. It's a quantitative one.

Kinda? Not really, though.
You keep accusing me of intentional goalpost kicking. Virtually the only instance where I have clarified my position to something quite different from the apparent original stance is my emphasis of gender binary as [see above blahblahs].

And yet I've very clearly demonstrated something which is either goalpost nuking or extreme ignorance of the meanings of words.
The rest you are free to regard as interchangeable phrases - most, overwhelming majority, whatever. It's meant as a numerically-vague, positionally-clear quantification.

99% is literally the opposite of numerically vague. It is a specific number, not a stand-in for anything you want.
If I should spell it out, I think the claim that if you ask random person on the street whether there are just men and women, an overwhelming majority (or whatever) will affirm this, and I have a high certainty on this on par with that most (or whatever) don't think of cockroaches as cute, even without explicit epistemic clarification of [see above] - most people don't really take the 0.5% (or, again, whatever) into account.

You think that. Not the same as it being actually the case, which is what you argued for before.
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:53 am

Crysuko wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:People with rightist sympathies poster here rather frequently.

You stated I had rightist sympathies as if you were a Soviet official discovering a Western spy.

at least those others try to make some kind of formal debate rather than just slinging crap around

Well, I got accused of something so patently absurd that by this point I don't feel like effort-posting.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:54 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:at least those others try to make some kind of formal debate rather than just slinging crap around

Well, I got accused of something so patently absurd that by this point I don't feel like effort-posting.

you got accused of the blatently obvious then tried to hide behind deflections and jokes. it failed. now we have a new firmament to breach.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:55 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Ah, yet again we see another "no u!" aimed to deflect from the fact that you peddle Nazism by advocating for your political opposition to be gassed. Amazing as always, NC. :3

Unironically, I don't care anymore. I'm just curious how many times you're going to repeat:
by advocating for your political opposition to be gassed. 


It sure is funny that you bothered to respond if you've stopped caring! But, nonetheless, I don't mind being a broken record about the fact that you use Nazi rhetoric to advocate for the gassing of your political opposition, because it's a post that's easily quotable and an absolute condemnation of you and your Nazi tendencies! To demonstrate:

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Pepe or Groyper or whatever the fuck the r/frenworld frog's name was ANNIHILATED by THE PEOPLE'S MILKSHAKES in another BRUTAL COMMIE INTERNET ATTACK lmao

Chapo needs to be fumigated, tbh.


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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:55 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:at least those others try to make some kind of formal debate rather than just slinging crap around

Well, I got accused of something so patently absurd that by this point I don't feel like effort-posting.

Have you ever effortposted in your entire time on this forum? :blink:
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:57 am

Torrocca wrote:


No, no, it's totally not like Jewish Nazis existed. By all accounts, NC clearly can't be a Nazi despite his explicit, unironic usage of Nazi rhetoric in regards to gassing his political opposition!

Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:57 am

Torrocca wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Unironically, I don't care anymore. I'm just curious how many times you're going to repeat:


It sure is funny that you bothered to respond if you've stopped caring! But, nonetheless, I don't mind being a broken record about the fact that you use Nazi rhetoric to advocate for the gassing of your political opposition, because it's a post that's easily quotable and an absolute condemnation of you and your Nazi tendencies! To demonstrate:

Nova Cyberia wrote:Chapo needs to be fumigated, tbh.


:)

Yes, Chapo bad.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:58 am

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:First, "purging", second, "sudden crackdown".
You're really making a lot of Freudian slips today.


It's not like these are mutually exclusive things in the context of how Reddit administration works. Banning a subreddit (AKA purging it from the site) is a sudden crackdown.

Typically unless the fundamental concept is objectionable, some degree of prior warning is given.
A subreddit about the President of the United States isn't fundamentally objectionable, so they'd be given prior warning.
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:58 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
No, no, it's totally not like Jewish Nazis existed. By all accounts, NC clearly can't be a Nazi despite his explicit, unironic usage of Nazi rhetoric in regards to gassing his political opposition!

Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.

it's a red flag the USSR would be proud of. a hint at unsavoury sympathies and beliefs that are not welcome here.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:58 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
No, no, it's totally not like Jewish Nazis existed. By all accounts, NC clearly can't be a Nazi despite his explicit, unironic usage of Nazi rhetoric in regards to gassing his political opposition!

Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.

You'd think so, right?

But when all you have is hysteria...
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:58 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
No, no, it's totally not like Jewish Nazis existed. By all accounts, NC clearly can't be a Nazi despite his explicit, unironic usage of Nazi rhetoric in regards to gassing his political opposition!

Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.


Xen, hun, now's not the time to defend blatant Nazi rhetoric.
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

Crysuko wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.

it's a red flag the USSR would be proud of. a hint at unsavoury sympathies and beliefs that are not welcome here.

It's NS, fam. Literally everyone is welcome here, and you don't own this thread.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

Torrocca wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.


Xen, hun, now's not the time to defend blatant Nazi rhetoric.

Fr, it was an off-color and rather offensive joke, not advocating for murder.
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.

You'd think so, right?

But when all you have is hysteria...

are you really going to keep hammering MUH HYSTERIA as if it means anything

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:it's a red flag the USSR would be proud of. a hint at unsavoury sympathies and beliefs that are not welcome here.

It's NS, fam. Literally everyone is welcome here, and you don't own this thread.

advocating for death, implicitly or otherwise will only make you enemies. as has been dmonstrated
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Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Official thread euthanologist
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
It sure is funny that you bothered to respond if you've stopped caring! But, nonetheless, I don't mind being a broken record about the fact that you use Nazi rhetoric to advocate for the gassing of your political opposition, because it's a post that's easily quotable and an absolute condemnation of you and your Nazi tendencies! To demonstrate:



:)

Yes, Chapo bad.


Ah, glad to see you've started caring just enough again to respond to my post and yet again weakly attempt to detract from the fact that you openly advocated for gassing your political opponents! It's always so lovelt to see that! :3
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
NOTICE 2: Most RP and every OOC post by me prior to 2023 are no longer endorsed nor tolerated by me. I've since put on my adult pants!
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Xen, hun, now's not the time to defend blatant Nazi rhetoric.

Fr, it was an off-color and rather offensive joke, not advocating for murder.

Torra unironically wants me to be a Nazi for some reason.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

Torrocca wrote:"I was speaking in metaphorical terms! Clearly I actually meant that the subreddit needs to be banned when I advocated for gassing the community at large!" :roll:

But that is what he meant. He did mean banning the subreddit, not slaughtering its users.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:00 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, Chapo bad.


Ah, glad to see you've started caring just enough again to respond to my post and yet again weakly attempt to detract from the fact that you openly advocated for gassing your political opponents! It's always so lovelt to see that! :3

Ban Chapo.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:01 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Right-libertarianism is the mainstream right now in America and some other first-world countries. They like to pretend the Leftist CabalTM is in control of everything, but Enlightened Centrism and its corollary right-libertarianism are insanely popular among young people in the aforementioned countries. Being one is the most conformist you could possibly be politically.

If that were true, libertarian parties would do much better than they are doing. Granted, liberalism and freedom and capitalism are fairly popular in the west, but that doesn't necessarily translate to libertarianism being popular.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:01 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Ah, glad to see you've started caring just enough again to respond to my post and yet again weakly attempt to detract from the fact that you openly advocated for gassing your political opponents! It's always so lovelt to see that! :3

Ban Chapo.


No amount of downplaying what you actually said is going to change the fact that you openly advocated for gassing your political opposition, hun.
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
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Cekoviu
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:02 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Right-libertarianism is the mainstream right now in America and some other first-world countries. They like to pretend the Leftist CabalTM is in control of everything, but Enlightened Centrism and its corollary right-libertarianism are insanely popular among young people in the aforementioned countries. Being one is the most conformist you could possibly be politically.

If that were true, libertarian parties would do much better than they are doing. Granted, liberalism and freedom and capitalism are fairly popular in the west, but that doesn't necessarily translate to libertarianism being popular.

The people among whom it's popular are often too young to vote or have low voter turnout.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:02 pm

Duvniask wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Yes, you are saying that private property is a statist construct, and therefore the right-libertarian perception of private property is flawed. And I am saying, that by that logic the libertarian (left or right) perception of any rights are also flawed.

Yes? I'm ambiguous to the existence of the state, as regards the commonly understood Weberian definition of state as being the monopoly on the legitimate use of violence. As for the Marxian definition, it's not really relevant, I feel. The implications of this reasoning are not my problem.

Fair enough I guess. Sorry for the condusion.
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Nationality: Australian
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Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:02 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Ah, glad to see you've started caring just enough again to respond to my post and yet again weakly attempt to detract from the fact that you openly advocated for gassing your political opponents! It's always so lovelt to see that! :3

Ban Chapo.

ban Nova Cyberia
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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