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Should the UK Take a Harder Line Against Russia on the Basis of the ISC Report?

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No *vote amended by GRU*
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:38 pm

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Then you should have filed something to the Supreme Court.

I cannot, nor need I.


Then your comments, once again, mean very little next to legal professionals.

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Postby Purgatio » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:39 pm

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Also, you are not a supreme court constitutional judge, so your comments mean very little.

Argumentum ab auctoritate


Your opinion is not invalid just because you are not a Supreme Court judge. However, if your views on the UK legal order clearly conflict with that stated by UK judges sitting in the Supreme Court in several judgments, then yes, that is absolutely a relevant consideration here.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:39 pm

Deacarsia wrote:You know, all I really intended was to wish a happy day to fellow supporters of Brexit, not get dragged into a long debate about British law. So, I repeat:

Deacarsia wrote:Happy Brexit Day!

Cheerio!


And all because you got upset that not everyone is as hyped about this as you are.
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:40 pm

Deacarsia wrote:You know, all I really intended was to wish a happy day to fellow supporters of Brexit, not get dragged into a long debate about British law. So, I repeat:

Deacarsia wrote:Happy Brexit Day!

Cheerio!


Well, you did fail to understand how the EU functions, how parliamentary sovereignty was not overshadowed by the EU, and the UK legal framework of the Supreme Court.

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United Kingdom Politics Thread XII: Brexit High Noon Saloon

Postby Deacarsia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:41 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:You know, all I really intended was to wish a happy day to fellow supporters of Brexit, not get dragged into a long debate about British law. So, I repeat:


Cheerio!


And all because you got upset that not everyone is as hyped about this as you are.

Nay, you may have your own opinions. I just do not appreciate having mine denigrated.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:41 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:You know, all I really intended was to wish a happy day to fellow supporters of Brexit, not get dragged into a long debate about British law. So, I repeat:


Cheerio!


And all because you got upset that not everyone is as hyped about this as you are.

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Postby Purgatio » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:42 pm

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And all because you got upset that not everyone is as hyped about this as you are.

Nay, you may have your own opinions. I just do not appreciate having mine denigrated.


Its not denigration to take the view that your opinion is wrong. That's called a difference of opinion.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:42 pm

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And all because you got upset that not everyone is as hyped about this as you are.

Nay, you may have your own opinions. I just do not appreciate having mine denigrated.


Apparently pointing out how Brexit isn't actually a good thing is denigrating your opinions.
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United Kingdom Politics Thread XII: Brexit High Noon Saloon

Postby Deacarsia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:43 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:You know, all I really intended was to wish a happy day to fellow supporters of Brexit, not get dragged into a long debate about British law. So, I repeat:


Cheerio!


Well, you did fail to understand how the EU functions, how parliamentary sovereignty was not overshadowed by the EU, and the UK legal framework of the Supreme Court.

I did not fail to understand how the European Union functions, how parliamentary sovereignty was overshadowed by the European Union, or the United Kingdom legal framework of the Supreme Court. We just had a difference of opinion on the matter, not understanding.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:43 pm

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What makes you think Boris would do such a ridiculous thing, anyway? He is a patriotic Brit, he is not going to sell out the NS to American corporations.


Oh right, I forgot we're not allowed to talk about the document outlining exactly that.

The document only said what the US was demanding. There was no indication that UK leaders would actually agree to such a demand.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:44 pm

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Oh right, I forgot we're not allowed to talk about the document outlining exactly that.

The document only said what the US was demanding. There was no indication that UK leaders would actually agree to such a demand.


The things they were demanding if we want to get a trade deal. In other words they have us over a barrel, as does everyone else.
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:44 pm

Deacarsia wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Well, you did fail to understand how the EU functions, how parliamentary sovereignty was not overshadowed by the EU, and the UK legal framework of the Supreme Court.

I did not fail to understand how the European Union functions, how parliamentary sovereignty was overshadowed by the European Union, or the United Kingdom legal framework of the Supreme Court. We just had a difference of opinion on the matter, not understanding.


This isn't opinion.
The evidence shows Parliamentary Sovereignty was never overshadowed by the EU at all in it's 30 years of EU membership.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:45 pm

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Bienenhalde wrote:The document only said what the US was demanding. There was no indication that UK leaders would actually agree to such a demand.


The things they were demanding if we want to get a trade deal. In other words they have us over a barrel, as does everyone else.

Well, I guess you will not have a trade deal with the US, at least not until Trump is out of office.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:49 pm

Happy Brexit Day

Such a lovely message of inclusion and peace.

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Postby Deacarsia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:53 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:Happy Brexit Day

Such a lovely message of inclusion and peace.

Indeed.
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Postby Deacarsia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:55 pm

Happy Brexit Day!
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:56 pm

Deacarsia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Happy Brexit Day

Such a lovely message of inclusion and peace.

Indeed.


Did you actually click the link?

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:56 pm

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Oh right, I forgot we're not allowed to talk about the document outlining exactly that.

The document only said what the US was demanding. There was no indication that UK leaders would actually agree to such a demand.

I wish he'd do that, please don't let me down Boris
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:56 pm

Deacarsia wrote:Happy Brexit Day!


Again, for those of us that know how Brexit will mess up the UK, no, it certainly is not.

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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:56 pm

Deacarsia wrote:Happy Brexit Day!


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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:56 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:The document only said what the US was demanding. There was no indication that UK leaders would actually agree to such a demand.

I wish he'd do that, please don't let me down Boris


Boris has lied through his teeth time and time again.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:00 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I wish he'd do that, please don't let me down Boris


Boris has lied through his teeth time and time again.

Would be cosmic irony if Boris did just that and GVH loses the posh cushion of his family's assets afterwards.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:00 pm

Deacarsia wrote:Happy Brexit Day!

That was yesterday lol get over it
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:02 pm

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Boris has lied through his teeth time and time again.

Would be cosmic irony if Boris did just that and GVH loses the posh cushion of his family's assets afterwards.


:rofl:

I mean, he is technically a socialist in the family aspect, as he accept money off his parents they earned.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:03 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Would be cosmic irony if Boris did just that and GVH loses the posh cushion of his family's assets afterwards.


:rofl:

I mean, he is technically a socialist in the family aspect, as he accept money off his parents they earned.

It's only socialism when it's other people, silly!
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