Pilarcraft wrote:Umayyads got into power by trickery (almost literally. Amru ibn As tricked Abu Musa A'shari in the parley after The Saffayn, into giving his overlord (Mu'awiyye) the Caliphate) and then kept that power by murdering opposition and oppressing The Ajam... though then again, the same can be said about The First Caliphate and The Abassid Caliphate too...Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
I mostly remember the Umayyads as being the second Islamic caliphate that got defeated by the Abbasids and went "You know what!? I will flee to Spain and create my own caliphate, with chess and harems!".
And thus my ancestors might have a tint of Muslim blood.
Welcome to literally any government ever.
The Abbasids couldn't just walk up to the Umayyads and go "Can we have power, pretty pleeeaaase?"


