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Postby Uberhochland » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:12 am

Wiztopia wrote:
Uberhochland wrote:However, I do agree- child pornography should be banned! Any pornography involving anyone under the age of eighteen, which is a law, should be banned on any media.


Any media? So you must be one of those people who think lolicon is child porn.


Sorry for the delay, Ace. You only posted two original posts, I have already answer one of yours about Sweden...well part of it and asked the question who comes up with age of consent fourteen and under?
Answer that for me.

For this one, lolicon...I do not know what that is. I do not want to know if that is child porn or not. I'm not going to check it out, either. Any media means pornography, a video or picture of any format, displaying intercourse, oral sex, or inserting foreign objects into a child under the age of 18 (the age for legal pornography) and under the age of consent in whatever nation the photos or video originated. I'm sorry if I sound like bible hugging person. But, I like to be a dad that doesn't have to worry about my little girl being in snuff film at the age of seventeen or younger.

For others that feel ignored, I'm sorry to neglect every single word that is repeated at least four times. Back to the question, why are you, guys and girls, so fascinated about having sex with children that are four to ten years older than you? We had an argument about how young people can fuck them in other countries. That sort makes me worry as a person that believes we are civilized. Honestly, if you were a parent and you caught your daughter, 14, having sex with a 17 year old, would you question if this is okay or not?

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:18 am

...somewhere before (I don´t want to scroll the whole thread) someone has said, that paedophilia is inborne.

I strongly disagree; paedophilia, as any other fetish and fixation, is produced by some events in the childhood, or even later, and thus a product of society and social environment. Imo, there wouldn´t be even a problem with children (teens) having sex (with each other or otherwise), if our society wouldn´t be as bigot and retarded as it is. If sexuality and nudity wouldn´t be such a taboo in our society (you might say, whatever you want, in fact it is), there would be a very different behaviour, even if some children would be involved. Given the fact, the act of sexuality is not like a rape (which, in case of paedophilia not neccessary is), and is sensed as some act of loving (to counter, before it starts - I´m not a paedophiliac, nor am I gay or otherwise fixed to any fetish) and done so willingly (well, even children can act willingly), there would be, imo, no harm done. But since society damns everything in this direction, sometimes even a free discussion about the theme, and incriminates this at every little attempt, there´s no way (not for the "victim", nor for the "evil-doer") to come out of this unharmed.
Astonishing but true, some ancient societies had some much enlightened position on this, as, for instance, in antique Rome it was common to give a boy some lesson by an sophisticated women (hetaerae), in ancient Greece relations between young boys and elder "teachers" were almost mandatory and publically accepted, and ancient Baylonians took their daughters to the whore-house in the temple (mandatory) to be fucked before she could get married.
I´d say, the main damage for any child´s brain when abused by some paedophiliac is not the act or it´s results (again given the fact, it´s not a rape, as some loving paedophiliac would take care for the little body), but the reaction of the society, which declares the whole thing as criminal and bad at any view.

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:22 am

...this might entertain you, as I´ve to leave by now - replies will come as read up next time...ciao

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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:46 am

Uberhochland wrote:
Wiztopia wrote:
Uberhochland wrote:However, I do agree- child pornography should be banned! Any pornography involving anyone under the age of eighteen, which is a law, should be banned on any media.


Any media? So you must be one of those people who think lolicon is child porn.


Sorry for the delay, Ace. You only posted two original posts, I have already answer one of yours about Sweden...well part of it and asked the question who comes up with age of consent fourteen and under?
Answer that for me.

For this one, lolicon...I do not know what that is. I do not want to know if that is child porn or not. I'm not going to check it out, either. Any media means pornography, a video or picture of any format, displaying intercourse, oral sex, or inserting foreign objects into a child under the age of 18 (the age for legal pornography) and under the age of consent in whatever nation the photos or video originated. I'm sorry if I sound like bible hugging person. But, I like to be a dad that doesn't have to worry about my little girl being in snuff film at the age of seventeen or younger.

For others that feel ignored, I'm sorry to neglect every single word that is repeated at least four times. Back to the question, why are you, guys and girls, so fascinated about having sex with children that are four to ten years older than you? We had an argument about how young people can fuck them in other countries. That sort makes me worry as a person that believes we are civilized. Honestly, if you were a parent and you caught your daughter, 14, having sex with a 17 year old, would you question if this is okay or not?


"Lolicon (ロリコン?), also romanized as rorikon, is a Japanese portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex".[1][2] In Japan, the term describes an attraction to young girls,[3] or an individual with such an attraction.[4][5] Outside Japan, the term is less common and most often refers to a genre of manga and anime wherein childlike female characters are depicted in an erotic manner. The phrase is a reference to Vladimir Nabokov's book, Lolita, in which a middle-aged man becomes sexually obsessed with a 12-year-old girl.[6] The equivalent term for attraction to (or art pertaining to erotic portrayal of) young boys is shotacon."

I was saying you probably think that drawings such as lolicon are child porn. The lawmakers of those countries make the laws obviously. Also you ignored my point about thoughts earlier. Somebody who thinks they want to have sex with somebody doesn't make them a pedophile. People should never be arrested for thoughts. Because there is no such thing as a thought crime.

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Postby Panderson2 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:56 am

more pornography = less rape .

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Postby Lelouche » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:09 am

Citation Needed wrote:more pornography = less rape .
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Postby L3 Communications » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:45 am

Uberhochland wrote:
Wiztopia wrote:
Uberhochland wrote:However, I do agree- child pornography should be banned! Any pornography involving anyone under the age of eighteen, which is a law, should be banned on any media.


Any media? So you must be one of those people who think lolicon is child porn.


Sorry for the delay, Ace. You only posted two original posts, I have already answer one of yours about Sweden...well part of it and asked the question who comes up with age of consent fourteen and under?
Answer that for me.

For this one, lolicon...I do not know what that is. I do not want to know if that is child porn or not. I'm not going to check it out, either. Any media means pornography, a video or picture of any format, displaying intercourse, oral sex, or inserting foreign objects into a child under the age of 18 (the age for legal pornography) and under the age of consent in whatever nation the photos or video originated. I'm sorry if I sound like bible hugging person. But, I like to be a dad that doesn't have to worry about my little girl being in snuff film at the age of seventeen or younger.

For others that feel ignored, I'm sorry to neglect every single word that is repeated at least four times. Back to the question, why are you, guys and girls, so fascinated about having sex with children that are four to ten years older than you? We had an argument about how young people can fuck them in other countries. That sort makes me worry as a person that believes we are civilized. Honestly, if you were a parent and you caught your daughter, 14, having sex with a 17 year old, would you question if this is okay or not?


Lolicon is hand-drawn or digitally drawn hentai (pornography in the style of anime or manga) that depicts children.
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Postby Zykorinov » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:52 am

This thread is still going? I haven't been posting for at least a month, and it was still here, then. :blink:
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Postby Mean Feat » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:24 pm

Lelouche wrote:
Citation Needed wrote:more pornography = less rape .


You ask for a source? Here. (pdf)

It's 54 pages long, and I don't claim to have read it closely.

The arrival of the internet caused a large decline in both the pecuniary and non-pecuniary costs of accessing pornography. Using state-level panel data from 1998-2003, I find that the arrival of the internet was associated with a reduction in rape incidence. However, growth in internet usage had no apparent effect on other crimes. Moreover, when I disaggregate the rape data by offender age, I find that the effect of the internet on rape is concentrated among those for whom the internet-induced fall in the non-pecuniary price of pornography was the largest – men ages 15-19, who typically live with their parents.
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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:41 pm

Mean Feat wrote:
Lelouche wrote:
Citation Needed wrote:more pornography = less rape .


You ask for a source? Here. (pdf)

It's 54 pages long, and I don't claim to have read it closely.

The arrival of the internet caused a large decline in both the pecuniary and non-pecuniary costs of accessing pornography. Using state-level panel data from 1998-2003, I find that the arrival of the internet was associated with a reduction in rape incidence. However, growth in internet usage had no apparent effect on other crimes. Moreover, when I disaggregate the rape data by offender age, I find that the effect of the internet on rape is concentrated among those for whom the internet-induced fall in the non-pecuniary price of pornography was the largest – men ages 15-19, who typically live with their parents.


I completely missed their post. Japan use to have rape eroge games and they have one of the lowest rape statistics in the world. They might have undone the ban now too.

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Postby Techno-Soviet » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:28 pm

Wiztopia wrote:
Mean Feat wrote:
Lelouche wrote:
Citation Needed wrote:more pornography = less rape .


You ask for a source? Here. (pdf)

It's 54 pages long, and I don't claim to have read it closely.

The arrival of the internet caused a large decline in both the pecuniary and non-pecuniary costs of accessing pornography. Using state-level panel data from 1998-2003, I find that the arrival of the internet was associated with a reduction in rape incidence. However, growth in internet usage had no apparent effect on other crimes. Moreover, when I disaggregate the rape data by offender age, I find that the effect of the internet on rape is concentrated among those for whom the internet-induced fall in the non-pecuniary price of pornography was the largest – men ages 15-19, who typically live with their parents.


I completely missed their post. Japan use to have rape eroge games and they have one of the lowest rape statistics in the world. They might have undone the ban now too.


I think Pure Pure is one, or maybe thats just lolicon.
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Postby Sypian » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:48 am

I believe only nice nudity should be allowed without showing men in the same photo.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:54 am

I haven't read the whole topic, so sorry if this has been mentioned:

In its efforts to censor everything, Australia is considering banning pornvideos and websites that show women "squirting". Because "squirting is impossible and therefor it must be pee" according to some Christian groups.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:55 am

Sypian wrote:I believe only nice nudity should be allowed without showing men in the same photo.


Why?

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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:59 am

The Alma Mater wrote:I haven't read the whole topic, so sorry if this has been mentioned:

In its efforts to censor everything, Australia is considering banning pornvideos and websites that show women "squirting". Because "squirting is impossible and therefor it must be pee" according to some Christian groups.

:rofl:
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:00 am

Sypian wrote:I believe only nice nudity should be allowed without showing men in the same photo.

Then is multiple women okay?
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Postby Capitalistliberals » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:01 am

Sypian wrote:I believe only nice nudity should be allowed without showing men in the same photo.


Umm no k thx bye.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:03 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:
Sypian wrote:I believe only nice nudity should be allowed without showing men in the same photo.

Then is multiple women okay?


So long as they are wearing enough clothes so that you can only see a maximum of two half-boobs. The limit is reduced to one if you can also see their ankles. Vaginas must be blurred out, since it might be triggering if seen by youngsters who have only relatively recently come out of one.
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Postby Capitalistliberals » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:06 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Sypian wrote:I believe only nice nudity should be allowed without showing men in the same photo.

Then is multiple women okay?


So long as they are wearing enough clothes so that you can only see a maximum of two half-boobs. The limit is reduced to one if you can also see their ankles. Vaginas must be blurred out, since it might be triggering if seen by youngsters who have only relatively recently come out of one.


How about two guys :blush:
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:08 am

Capitalistliberals wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Sypian wrote:I believe only nice nudity should be allowed without showing men in the same photo.

Then is multiple women okay?


So long as they are wearing enough clothes so that you can only see a maximum of two half-boobs. The limit is reduced to one if you can also see their ankles. Vaginas must be blurred out, since it might be triggering if seen by youngsters who have only relatively recently come out of one.


How about two guys :blush:

Probably only half their torsos.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:13 am

Capitalistliberals wrote:How about two guys :blush:


They must be ruggedly masculine and look unenthusiastic, reluctant, and somewhat ashamed of their attraction to men. The penis should not be erect. The plot must make it clear they're only doing it because there are no suitable wimminz available.

None of the above rules apply if one or more of the men is on fire, drowning, being electrocuted, or trapped in a giant freezer.

We can't give the impression that gay relationships can end well, that would damage the children.
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:14 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Capitalistliberals wrote:How about two guys :blush:


They must be ruggedly masculine and look unenthusiastic, reluctant, and somewhat ashamed of their attraction to men. The penis should not be erect. The plot must make it clear they're only doing it because there are no suitable wimminz available.

None of the above rules apply if one or more of the men is on fire, drowning, being electrocuted, or trapped in a giant freezer.

We can't give the impression that gay relationships can end well, that would damage the children.

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Postby Mean Feat » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:16 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Sypian wrote:I believe only nice nudity should be allowed without showing men in the same photo.

Then is multiple women okay?


So long as they are wearing enough clothes so that you can only see a maximum of two half-boobs. The limit is reduced to one if you can also see their ankles. Vaginas must be blurred out, since it might be triggering if seen by youngsters who have only relatively recently come out of one.


I demand a right to see vagina, for youngsters born by Caesarian section.

Also, ankles really are sexy, and if you don't think so you're a prude.
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