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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Lincoln Project should run a few more attack adds in Georgia attacking Trumps personality. 60% of Georgians dislike the president based on his personality. If you get at least a fourth of those to vote blue you could flip the state

Neocons are worse than Trump

Which is why I never believed a thing Bolton said


Much as I hate Trump, I agree with this sentiment. Neocon officials and politicians are the kind of people to say "Trump said racist things about muslims" while bombing some Middle Eastern country till only dust remains.
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This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:38 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.

The debates this year will be entertaining
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:46 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.

The debates this year will be entertaining


A bunch of stuttering vs alternative facts and yelling.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:59 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.


And said man will get 40% of the popular vote at least- and win some States. It's truly remarkable what the United States is going through right now, especially since it's under this anti-intellectual spell.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:01 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.


And said man will get 40% of the popular vote at least- and win some States. It's truly remarkable what the United States is going through right now, especially since it's under this anti-intellectual spell.

Honestly I think Trump is only getting so much of the vote is because of the two party system making things so partisan. Without that Trump would really not stand a chance.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:37 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.

I genuinely feel bad for your country.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:43 am

Andsed wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
And said man will get 40% of the popular vote at least- and win some States. It's truly remarkable what the United States is going through right now, especially since it's under this anti-intellectual spell.

Honestly I think Trump is only getting so much of the vote is because of the two party system making things so partisan. Without that Trump would really not stand a chance.

Break up the two parties, or just ban political parties all of them outright.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:43 am

Zurkerx wrote:Biden Says He Wouldn't Stand In The Way Of A Trump Prosecution. While he did say that prosecuting a former president would be a "very unusual thing and probably not very ... good for democracy," he wouldn't interfere with the judgment of the DOJ. Essentially, he's allowing the DOJ to act independently of his judgment.

Wait, they can do that? Oh right, I seem to remember that was kind of how it was supposed to work...
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:43 am

Picking a fight with social media companies, just before attempting to get re-elected, when they played a key role in getting you elected in the first place, seems monumentally dumb. But then having just watched some of the Axios interview, Trump certainly is that thick.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:45 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.


That will disappear quick if he is re-elected. Then again, you will see Russia, China, Turkey, and North Korea go YEA!!!!!!

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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:46 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The debates this year will be entertaining


A bunch of stuttering vs alternative facts and yelling.

Maybe the debates itself are a problem? At least here, the motion of presidential debates are controlled by a strict moderating system sanctioned by the electoral comission, with debate topics set by a group of really smart-looking professors and academic authorities who sit on the front seat during said debates. Really forces you to know what you're talking about. Instead, you got 2016 Trump.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:49 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.


And said man will get 40% of the popular vote at least- and win some States. It's truly remarkable what the United States is going through right now, especially since it's under this anti-intellectual spell.


I am ever amazed at this celebration of ignorance.

The FBI thing was bullshit!!!!!
Did you read the transcripts?
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How do you know it was bullshit?
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* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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-Astoria- wrote:
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A transcript, I need! :(


Youtube doesn’t work? It’s there.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:50 am

*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:57 am

Dresderstan wrote:
Andsed wrote:Honestly I think Trump is only getting so much of the vote is because of the two party system making things so partisan. Without that Trump would really not stand a chance.

Break up the two parties, or just ban political parties all of them outright.


You can't do either without being a dictatorial menace. Personally I like the First Amendment, so.
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The Black Forrest wrote:Youtube doesn’t work? It’s there.
It's not likely that they'll ever make the video available in my part of the world; YouTube's working perfectly fine.
The Black Forrest wrote:https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-interview-transcript-with-axios-on-hbo
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-Astoria- wrote:
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Aah balls its not working for me either now.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:58 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
This man is gonna make america great again? People aren't even laughing at us anymore. Now they're just pitying us, and it's because of this bullshit. Trump is such a dumbass.


And said man will get 40% of the popular vote at least- and win some States. It's truly remarkable what the United States is going through right now, especially since it's under this anti-intellectual spell.


I'm pretty certain Trump could nuclear bomb several US cities and his approval rating would remain between 35 and 40%.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:59 am

Valrifell wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Break up the two parties, or just ban political parties all of them outright.


You can't do either without being a dictatorial menace. Personally I like the First Amendment, so.

Do I look like I fucking care at this point anymore, both parties do nothing to this country put tear it to partisan extremes, ban the lot of them.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:59 am

Dresderstan wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
You can't do either without being a dictatorial menace. Personally I like the First Amendment, so.

Do I look like I fucking care at this point anymore, both parties do nothing to this country put tear it to partisan extremes, ban the lot of them.


We need to limit monetary spending in politics. The donations are the big problem.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:01 am

-Astoria- wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Youtube doesn’t work? It’s there.
It's not likely that they'll ever make the video available in my part of the world; YouTube's working perfectly fine.
The Black Forrest wrote:https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-interview-transcript-with-axios-on-hbo
Hit me with an ad with no close button; but an inspect element here & there, & it's all good - if a little darkened.


Well shoot. The problem with the transcript is you will miss Swans expressions. They are memes now.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:02 am

Dresderstan wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
You can't do either without being a dictatorial menace. Personally I like the First Amendment, so.

Do I look like I fucking care at this point anymore, both parties do nothing to this country put tear it to partisan extremes, ban the lot of them.


Partisanship is not a direct function of the political parties in themselves, considering we've gotten along fine for literal centuries with the two-party system more along ideological divides.

No, the political parties playing into partisan divides is a symptom of a larger issue, not the cause of it.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:02 am

In that Axios interview Trump did, he claimed he didn't talk to Putin about the bounties on American troops, but he didn't because "it didn't end up on my desk." He then claimed to read and fully comprehend his briefings despite that being a concern inside of one of his briefings.
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