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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:26 pm

Fahran wrote:The Feds are really making a mess of things.

There is blame to go around on both sides, the violent protestors, burning, looting and being violent are also making a mess of things. MY first post on this thread.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:30 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Watching the videos of the cities. The 14 year old girl roughed up by 3 cops. What’s going on in Portland. A woman being brutalized by two of the mercs and she wasn’t even fighting.

I find I can’t defend the police anymore.

This isn’t about law and order. They seem to like what they do. Bullies.....thugs with guns and chemicals.


Trump assures you all polling places will be guarded by his DHS officers to ensure a free and fair election.

Good thing Oregon is all mail in ballot.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:47 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
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Trump assures you all polling places will be guarded by his DHS officers to ensure a free and fair election.

Good thing Oregon is all mail in ballot.


But how does Oregon screen out those millions of ballots printed in other countries?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:48 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Fahran wrote:The Feds are really making a mess of things.

There is blame to go around on both sides, the violent protestors, burning, looting and being violent are also making a mess of things. MY first post on this thread.


I believe Neut has told you several times things had noticeably dropped until Trumps Mercs showed up to agitate.
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Postby ArenaC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:52 pm

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Slaughter None wrote:Protesting is fine Opening lockdown protests were not violent the blm protests became violent and they are not kidnapping people they are arresting criminals and do you have any proof that they are innocent?

Innocent until proven guilty is the law of the land in America. Do you have proof these people are guilty of anything at all?

Until 1950 or so this was the case. It is guilty unless proven innocent now, as the Constitution is now blatantly disregarded.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:53 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Fahran wrote:The Feds are really making a mess of things.

There is blame to go around on both sides, the violent protestors, burning, looting and being violent are also making a mess of things. MY first post on this thread.


Knock it off with the "but both sides" shit. It doesn't mesh with reality at all, and no amount of screaming about how we need to respect your feelings and opinions on the matter will change those demonstrable facts.
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Postby ArenaC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:57 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:There is blame to go around on both sides, the violent protestors, burning, looting and being violent are also making a mess of things. MY first post on this thread.


Knock it off with the "but both sides" shit. It doesn't mesh with reality at all, and no amount of screaming about how we need to respect your feelings and opinions on the matter will change those demonstrable facts.

I believe Vass is right but of course I am straight, white, male and cis so I shouldn't have a voice. I don't know how tf anyone feels. Why am I even here?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:03 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:There is blame to go around on both sides, the violent protestors, burning, looting and being violent are also making a mess of things. MY first post on this thread.


Knock it off with the "but both sides" shit. It doesn't mesh with reality at all, and no amount of screaming about how we need to respect your feelings and opinions on the matter will change those demonstrable facts.

Both sides are being violent, there are videos of such violence on both sides. I don't tell you what to post and not to post, I don't tell anyone what to post and not to post.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:16 pm

ArenaC wrote:I am straight, white, male and cis so I shouldn't have a voice.

this but unironically tbh
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:18 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Knock it off with the "but both sides" shit. It doesn't mesh with reality at all, and no amount of screaming about how we need to respect your feelings and opinions on the matter will change those demonstrable facts.

Both sides are being violent, there are videos of such violence on both sides. I don't tell you what to post and not to post, I don't tell anyone what to post and not to post.

Only one side is having their constitutional rights violated, and only one side is violating constitutional rights.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:22 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Knock it off with the "but both sides" shit. It doesn't mesh with reality at all, and no amount of screaming about how we need to respect your feelings and opinions on the matter will change those demonstrable facts.

Both sides are being violent, there are videos of such violence on both sides. I don't tell you what to post and not to post, I don't tell anyone what to post and not to post.


So how many officers have been put into the hospital with life changing injuries by the protesters?

When one side is demonstrably more violent than the other, screaming BUT BOTH SIDES doesn't work out well for you.
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Postby ArenaC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:48 pm

Vassenor wrote:So how many officers have been put into the hospital with life changing injuries by the protesters?

None yet because FUCKING POLICE STATE because TRUMP'S FAILED US as he's a F-(DEAT'ed and executed)
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:53 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:Both sides are being violent, there are videos of such violence on both sides. I don't tell you what to post and not to post, I don't tell anyone what to post and not to post.

Only one side is having their constitutional rights violated, and only one side is violating constitutional rights.


I thought you hated the Constitution?
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:00 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Only one side is having their constitutional rights violated, and only one side is violating constitutional rights.


I thought you hated the Constitution?

My criticism of the Constitution is that it fails to protect the citizens enough. Obviously I wish to see the rights that it does guarantee protected at all costs.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:04 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
I thought you hated the Constitution?

My criticism of the Constitution is that it fails to protect the citizens enough. Obviously I wish to see the rights that it does guarantee protected at all costs.

imagine thinking the constitution doesn't give enough rights to the citizens
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:07 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Cisairse wrote:My criticism of the Constitution is that it fails to protect the citizens enough. Obviously I wish to see the rights that it does guarantee protected at all costs.

imagine thinking the constitution doesn't give enough rights to the citizens

I don't have to imagine that, I already think it.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:14 pm

The Portland Thread and the Riots thread are interrelated to these issues. The video starts with Attorney General William Barr testifying before congress, I condemn violence on both sides,

source CSPAN, watch the other sides violence as well, the looting, the burning, the destruction and the violence, and trying to tear down a fence.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?473384-1/ ... grams&live
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:28 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Portland Thread and the Riots thread are interrelated to these issues. The video starts with Attorney General William Barr testifying before congress, I condemn violence on both sides,

source CSPAN, watch the other sides violence as well, the looting, the burning, the destruction and the violence, and trying to tear down a fence.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?473384-1/ ... grams&live

Barr isn't a reliable source, that's why they spent so much time arguing about the record and asking Barr for confirmation that he's actually saying what he's saying under threat of perjury. He'll probably be charged with that crime once he leaves office.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:39 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Portland Thread and the Riots thread are interrelated to these issues. The video starts with Attorney General William Barr testifying before congress, I condemn violence on both sides,

source CSPAN, watch the other sides violence as well, the looting, the burning, the destruction and the violence, and trying to tear down a security fence. Added the word security.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?473384-1/ ... grams&live

Barr isn't a reliable source, that's why they spent so much time arguing about the record and asking Barr for confirmation that he's actually saying what he's saying under threat of perjury. He'll probably be charged with that crime once he leaves office.

lol, your personal and political views, but the video speaks for the video.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:43 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Barr isn't a reliable source, that's why they spent so much time arguing about the record and asking Barr for confirmation that he's actually saying what he's saying under threat of perjury. He'll probably be charged with that crime once he leaves office.

lol, your personal and political views, but the video speaks for the video.

CSPAN isn't exactly a news source at all, they just show you things people in the government say. It's up to others to analyze the truth of it.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:55 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, your personal and political views, but the video speaks for the video.

CSPAN isn't exactly a news source at all, they just show you things people in the government say. It's up to others to analyze the truth of it.

Yes, you are correct, but the video speaks for the video.
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Postby Owans » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:58 pm

Is graffiti an act of violent protesting?

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Postby Kowani » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:01 pm

Owans wrote:Is graffiti an act of violent protesting?

No.
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Postby Owans » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:08 pm

Kowani wrote:
Owans wrote:Is graffiti an act of violent protesting?

No.

I agree, I think that media and government are calling graffiti an act of violence to make the protests look more violent than they are.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:12 pm

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Kowani wrote:No.

I agree, I think that media and government are calling graffiti an act of violence to make the protests look more violent than they are.

Well, yes. The media profits from sensationalism, and Trump needs to keep people scared in order to snatch votes.
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