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Constantinopolis wrote:For everyone's information: Anonymous IP address *edited out ip* changed the first sentence of the Wikipedia article on the Free Syrian Army to say "Marxist terrorist organization" at 19:15 UTC on 30 September 2015 (that is, a few minutes ago).

So the only useful information we got out of this is Ayamar's IP address.

Constantinopolis wrote:For everyone's information: Anonymous IP address *edited out ip* changed the first sentence of the Wikipedia article on the Free Syrian Army to say "Marxist terrorist organization" at 19:15 UTC on 30 September 2015 (that is, a few minutes ago).

So the only useful information we got out of this is Ayamar's IP address.

Constantinopolis wrote:Still a million times better than any of the other forces involved in this conflict. Let's not forget that Assad is the only thing defending the religious minorities from wholesale genocide.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Constantinopolis wrote:Still a million times better than any of the other forces involved in this conflict. Let's not forget that Assad is the only thing defending the religious minorities from wholesale genocide.

Is he now?

New Frenco Empire wrote:

American Imperial Union wrote:
What im saying is that Islam as a religion is particularly responsible. Not religions in general, just islam.

I mean, that's to be expected from you, considering you're denouncing Islam while advocating a Christian crusade.

Lusai wrote:

Constantinopolis wrote:For everyone's information: Anonymous IP address *edited out ip* changed the first sentence of the Wikipedia article on the Free Syrian Army to say "Marxist terrorist organization" at 19:15 UTC on 30 September 2015 (that is, a few minutes ago).

So the only useful information we got out of this is Ayamar's IP address.

rest in pieces ayamar

The balkens wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
Why modify Wikipedia mate don't deny it Const already clarified it. So the Taliban were Marxist? Hmm, then why did they fight the communist government of Afghanistan? It seems to me to be very counterproductive.

That was the Mujaheddin, different group.

Ayamar wrote:some idiot nottnott changed the FSA page when I added information to it wtf

New Tuva SSR wrote:

Ayamar wrote:some idiot nottnott changed the FSA page when I added information to it wtf

I'm reporting you to the mods.

Uxupox wrote:

The balkens wrote:
That was the Mujaheddin, different group.

Yea my bad keep confusing the Taliban wit the Mujaheddin. But still the Taliban weren't leftist at all.

New Werpland wrote:The United States should let Russia do it's thing bombing Isis and aiding Assad, whilst in the background the United States continues doing what it has been. However when Iranian oil becomes plentiful, and all the smart people have left Russia, the Assad regime will most likely lose a lot of aid and military assistance. At which point the US can jump in and truly fix the problem.

New Werpland wrote:The United States should let Russia do it's thing bombing Isis and aiding Assad, whilst in the background the United States continues doing what it has been. However when Iranian oil becomes plentiful, and all the smart people have left Russia, the Assad regime will most likely lose a lot of aid and military assistance. At which point the US can jump in and truly fix the problem.

Ayamar wrote:

New Werpland wrote:The United States should let Russia do it's thing bombing Isis and aiding Assad, whilst in the background the United States continues doing what it has been. However when Iranian oil becomes plentiful, and all the smart people have left Russia, the Assad regime will most likely lose a lot of aid and military assistance. At which point the US can jump in and truly fix the problem.

Continues what? FUNDING ISIS

Conserative Morality wrote:

Constantinopolis wrote:Still a million times better than any of the other forces involved in this conflict. Let's not forget that Assad is the only thing defending the religious minorities from wholesale genocide.

Is he now?

Ayamar wrote:

New Tuva SSR wrote:I'm reporting you to the mods.

for what exactly

Ayamar wrote:

New Werpland wrote:The United States should let Russia do it's thing bombing Isis and aiding Assad, whilst in the background the United States continues doing what it has been. However when Iranian oil becomes plentiful, and all the smart people have left Russia, the Assad regime will most likely lose a lot of aid and military assistance. At which point the US can jump in and truly fix the problem.

Continues what? FUNDING ISIS

Conserative Morality wrote:

BBC wrote:Russia has begun carrying out air strikes in Syria against opponents of President Bashar al-Assad.

The strikes reportedly hit rebel-controlled areas of Homs and Hama provinces, causing casualties.

The US says it was informed an hour before they took place.

Russian defence officials say aircraft targeted the Islamic State group, but an unnamed US official told Reuters that so far they did not appear to be targeting IS-held territory.

The upper house of the Russian parliament granted President Vladimir Putin permission to deploy the Russian air force in Syria.
The Russian defence ministry said the country's air force had targeted IS military equipment, communication facilities, arms depots, ammunition and fuel supplies.

Syrian opposition activists said Russian warplanes had hit towns including Zafaraneh, Rastan ands Talbiseh, resulting in the deaths of 36 people, a number of them children.

None of the areas targeted were controlled by IS, activists said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34399164

So, what implications does this have?

Not surprised in the least. Russia clearly is desperate to hold onto their last ally in the region. I wouldn't be surprised if they intervene on the ground in the near future.

Not that they'd admit to it when they did.

Constantinopolis wrote:Uh, yes he is. I don't see anything in that article to challenge the view that Assad is the only reliable defender of the religious minorities.

Remember, the FSA is a decentralized, heterogeneous group that (1) doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the war, and (2) would collapse and start infighting as soon as the war was won (just like its equivalent did in Libya).

Conserative Morality wrote:

Constantinopolis wrote:Uh, yes he is. I don't see anything in that article to challenge the view that Assad is the only reliable defender of the religious minorities.

Remember, the FSA is a decentralized, heterogeneous group that (1) doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the war, and (2) would collapse and start infighting as soon as the war was won (just like its equivalent did in Libya).

And if you read the article, it also explains that:

1. Several minorities side with the opposition overwhelmingly over the government

2. The government isn't preventing sectarian violence any more than most of the opposition.

Ayamar wrote:

Conserative Morality wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34399164

So, what implications does this have?

Not surprised in the least. Russia clearly is desperate to hold onto their last ally in the region. I wouldn't be surprised if they intervene on the ground in the near future.

Not that they'd admit to it when they did.

The BBC are a slightly biased source towards the US so I gathered a few Russian biased ones.

http://www.rt.com/news/317013-parliament-authorization-troops-abroad/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/28/us-mideast-crisis-putin-usa-idUSKCN0RR0H820150928

Occupied Deutschland wrote:

Ayamar wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

There's really little in there to suggest they're broadly Marxist. There certainly could be Marxist elements within the FSA, but the FSA itself is a clusterfuck of amalgamated opposition groups built around a small core of Syrian Army defectors (who may or may not have any kind of broad operational authority over other groups included under their umbrella). So, by definition, the whole group can't be 'Marxist', the whole group isn't coordinated enough to have a set ideology beyond opposition to Assad and ISIS (and the latter one lapses sometimes).

Constantinopolis wrote:For everyone's information: Anonymous IP address *edited out ip* changed the first sentence of the Wikipedia article on the Free Syrian Army to say "Marxist terrorist organization" at 19:15 UTC on 30 September 2015 (that is, a few minutes ago).

So the only useful information we got out of this is Ayamar's IP address.

Man, c'mon Ayamar, what did Wiki ever do to you?

Ayamar wrote:

Occupied Deutschland wrote:There's really little in there to suggest they're broadly Marxist. There certainly could be Marxist elements within the FSA, but the FSA itself is a clusterfuck of amalgamated opposition groups built around a small core of Syrian Army defectors (who may or may not have any kind of broad operational authority over other groups included under their umbrella). So, by definition, the whole group can't be 'Marxist', the whole group isn't coordinated enough to have a set ideology beyond opposition to Assad and ISIS (and the latter one lapses sometimes).


Man, c'mon Ayamar, what did Wiki ever do to you?

I was adding stuff to make it truer (if thats a word)