Chick-Fil-A Apppreciation Day

[Adafdfadfasdf]

Well, you can support the bigot and his overprocessed food. I'll be eating an organically grown, free-range chicken from my neighbor down the street.

Is your neighbor really a chicken farmer? Where do you live?

I wouldn't call a dozen or so chickens a farm.

[Raeyh]

Is your neighbor really a chicken farmer? Where do you live?

I wouldn't call a dozen or so chickens a farm.

Then how can he sell one to you whenever you want to eat chicken?

[The Taryegeans]

I disagree, I vote with my dollars, I suppprt business's that I think do the right thing, I do not give my money to people who I think do wrong. I do not only buy on price.

If the money the customer pays goes to activities the customer doesn't like, then it's their choice not to give them any more money.

And before someone gets the crazy idea to extrapolate this to do tax evasion to screw over the government; no, this doesn't apply to the public sector.

But it does. If Money = free speach as you say, than I should not have to pay taxes for a war/policy/law I don't believe in.

[Adafdfadfasdf]

I wouldn't call a dozen or so chickens a farm.

Then how can he sell one to you whenever you want to eat chicken?

He doesn't whenever I want to eat chicken. But when we do favors for him, he responds in kind. We're like communists in that regard.

[Ethel mermania]

I disagree, I vote with my dollars, I suppprt business's that I think do the right thing, I do not give my money to people who I think do wrong. I do not only buy on price.

I see. Who made that electronic device you are using access the Internet?

Motorola, compaq, and toshiba. I don't have issues with any of those corperations.
Serive provider is verizon, whom I don't like, but my only choice is cablevison, and I HATE cablevision.

[Samuraikoku]

If the money the customer pays goes to activities the customer doesn't like, then it's their choice not to give them any more money.

And before someone gets the crazy idea to extrapolate this to do tax evasion to screw over the government; no, this doesn't apply to the public sector.

But it does. If Money = free speach as you say, than I should not have to pay taxes for a war/policy/law I don't believe in.

I didn't say free speech. See how the words weren't mentioned in my post.

I said that I, as a citizen, have a right to choose where I spend the money that I don't pay taxes with. In taxes, this is different, because how state (taxpayer) money is spent should be budgeted and assigned by law. You don't like how it's spent? Write to the responsible authorities to have them be aware.

Since I'm not being forced to buy Chick-Fil-A, or any other food chain or product I consume, I have a right not to buy from them anymore if I no longer like them - be it because I found something better, be it because I changed my mind on a whim, or be it because I don't like them supporting something I don't like. I can, in the same way, have them be aware that they're going to lose a customer.

[The Taryegeans]

But it does. If Money = free speach as you say, than I should not have to pay taxes for a war/policy/law I don't believe in.

I didn't say free speech. See how the words weren't mentioned in my post.

I said that I, as a citizen, have a right to choose where I spend the money that I don't pay taxes with. In taxes, this is different, because how state (taxpayer) money is spent should be budgeted and assigned by law. You don't like how it's spent? Write to the responsible authorities to have them be aware.

Since I'm not being forced to buy Chick-Fil-A, or any other food chain or product I consume, I have a right not to buy from them anymore if I no longer like them - be it because I found something better, be it because I changed my mind on a whim, or be it because I don't like them supporting something I don't like. I can, in the same way, have them be aware that they're going to lose a customer.

But I can have them be aware by not paying, as you state. If I don't like where it's going, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Please know I don't agree with tax evasion, but I disagree more with the view that money is speech.

[Adafdfadfasdf]

I didn't say free speech. See how the words weren't mentioned in my post.

I said that I, as a citizen, have a right to choose where I spend the money that I don't pay taxes with. In taxes, this is different, because how state (taxpayer) money is spent should be budgeted and assigned by law. You don't like how it's spent? Write to the responsible authorities to have them be aware.

Since I'm not being forced to buy Chick-Fil-A, or any other food chain or product I consume, I have a right not to buy from them anymore if I no longer like them - be it because I found something better, be it because I changed my mind on a whim, or be it because I don't like them supporting something I don't like. I can, in the same way, have them be aware that they're going to lose a customer.

But I can have them be aware by not paying, as you state. If I don't like where it's going, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Please know I don't agree with tax evasion, but I disagree more with the view that money is speech.

Are you arguing for a law that requires us to by greasy tasteless sandwiches from bigots?

[The Taryegeans]

But I can have them be aware by not paying, as you state. If I don't like where it's going, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Please know I don't agree with tax evasion, but I disagree more with the view that money is speech.

Are you arguing for a law that requires us to by greasy tasteless sandwiches from bigots?

No. I'm arguing that money is not speech.

[Unchecked Expansion]

Are you arguing for a law that requires us to by greasy tasteless sandwiches from bigots?

No. I'm arguing that money is not speech.

You're the one that brought that up.
The original point was that you are not compelled to spend your after-tax revenue in any particular place.

[Samuraikoku]

But I can have them be aware by not paying, as you state. If I don't like where it's going, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Because taxes are established by law, debated and voted for or against, in the appropiate legislative organ (U.S. Congress, State Legislature), with a due legislative process that represents the will of the people who voted it, in turn voted by citizens such as yourself.

Please know I don't agree with tax evasion, but I disagree more with the view that money is speech.

And as I said, my post said no such thing as free speech. It's about market freedom for the consumer.

[The Taryegeans]

No. I'm arguing that money is not speech.

You're the one that brought that up.
The original point was that you are not compelled to spend your after-tax revenue in any particular place.

And why would that be?

[The Taryegeans]

But I can have them be aware by not paying, as you state. If I don't like where it's going, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Because taxes are established by law, debated and voted for or against, in the appropiate legislative organ (U.S. Congress, State Legislature), with a due legislative process that represents the will of the people who voted it, in turn voted by citizens such as yourself.

Please know I don't agree with tax evasion, but I disagree more with the view that money is speech.

And as I said, my post said no such thing as free speech. It's about market freedom for the consumer.

And if I do not agree with the majority who establish this law?

[Unchecked Expansion]

You're the one that brought that up.
The original point was that you are not compelled to spend your after-tax revenue in any particular place.

And why would that be?

Because it is yours.
The portion that is taxed is not.

[Samuraikoku]

And if I do not agree with the majority who establish this law?

Vote them out. Go to court if you feel your rights are being violated.

[R Ev0lution]

Are you arguing for a law that requires us to by greasy tasteless sandwiches from bigots?

No. I'm arguing that money is not speech.

See: Montgomery Bus Boycotts
See: The Rest of the African-American Civil Rights Movement
See: Gandhi and the Indian Independence Movement
See: Cesar Chavez and the UFW

And I will argue that, sometimes, it is.

[Farnhamia]

And why would that be?

Because it is yours.
The portion that is taxed is not.

You can spend the taxed portion the way you want, too. You don't have any direct say over how the taxes are spent.

[Greed and Death]

No. I'm arguing that money is not speech.

See: Montgomery Bus Boycotts

And I will argue that, sometimes, it is.

Is Chick-fil-a making gay people sit in the back of the resturant ?

Your Bus driver is allowed to be a segragationist, he is jsut not allowed to make people sit in the back of the bus.

[R Ev0lution]

See: Montgomery Bus Boycotts

And I will argue that, sometimes, it is.

Is Chick-fil-a making gay people sit in the back of the resturant ?

Your Bus driver is allowed to be a segragationist, he is jsut not allowed to make people sit in the back of the bus.

No, they're not, but it doesn't change the fact that I get to put my hard-earned money where I want to. If your restaurant doesn't respect LGBT rights, I'll find a fast-food place that does.

By the way, your bus driver was allowed to make you sit in the back of the bus back when the boycotts were going on. Which is why, you know, the boycotts happened in the first place.

And you still utterly missed my point -- I wasn't trying to show that the bigotry of Montgomery bus drivers in the 1950s is somehow identical or even analogous to what Chick-Fil-A is doing now. However, I was trying to show that your money does speak for you sometimes, which you would've realized if you had also read the previous post and made a few logical connections between what I was responding to and what I said.

[Greed and Death]

Is Chick-fil-a making gay people sit in the back of the resturant ?

Your Bus driver is allowed to be a segragationist, he is jsut not allowed to make people sit in the back of the bus.

No, they're not, but it doesn't change the fact that I get to put my hard-earned money where I want to. If your restaurant doesn't respect LGBT rights, I'll find a fast-food place that does.

By the way, your bus driver was allowed to make you sit in the back of the bus back when the boycotts were going on. Which is why, you know, the boycotts happened in the first place.

And you still utterly missed my point -- I wasn't trying to show that the bigotry of Montgomery bus drivers in the 1950s is somehow identical or even analogous to what Chick-Fil-A is doing now. However, I was trying to show that your money does speak for you sometimes, which you would've realized if you had also read the previous post and made a few logical connections between what I was responding to and what I said.

No one is denying you the right to boycott, just curious what you think it will accomplish ?

They are respecting LGBT rights, they in the course their actions as a company do not discriminate. Chik-fil-a is not a chapel they do not marry people.

They do not discriminate against gay customers
They do not discriminate against gay employees, with the possible exception of not providing benefits to same sex couples but less be honest the employers who do not discriminate in that regard are in the minority right now.

So if your boycotting them you are boycotting them for having an opinion. What do you think that will accomplish ?
Bankrupt Chik-fil-a and leave a bunch of employees without jobs. The CEO will still have the same opinion and if anything might become more extreme.

When lunch counters and bus lines were boycotted they were boycotted for actions by the restaurants and the buslines, and to change action.

Boycotts are great for changing the actions of the targeted company, not for changing the opinion of the CEO. Changing opinions really must be reserved for civil discourse.

[Tmutarakhan]

I appreciate Chick-fil-A. They have a superior and delicious product. Best chicken sammiches, flaky and tender and moist with delicious liberal tears. Mmmm-mm.

A Menelmacar sighting? Rare indeed!

[Tmutarakhan]

No one is denying you the right to boycott, just curious what you think it will accomplish ?

Giving him less money to spend on political organizations that fight to restrict my rights.

[TomKirk]

Flaming Christians?



But on topic: Is this any surprise coming from a man who thinks we should change American law to follow Christian law?

Is that baby shitting fire balls?

Must have eaten a Chick-Fil-A sandwich.

[Imsogone]

I don't eat fast food, except maybe Subway. Even if I did eat fast food and even if I did agree with their position, I wouldn't eat there - their food is terrible.

[Ethel mermania]

I don't eat fast food, except maybe Subway. Even if I did eat fast food and even if I did agree with their position, I wouldn't eat there - their food is terrible.

i dont know, i liked their waffle fries (sigh)