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Postby Bobpire » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:56 am

Putin the Bear King wrote:I find atheism to be ignorant. It just blatantly says that no God exists, without any proof. There was a Law that stated that it would be more fruitful to believe in one, but I forgot it.

Big Bang needs an explanation, how elemental bonds create consciousness needs an explanation, etc.


Atheism is no more ignorant then Christianity. You blatantly say god does exist, without any proof. The logic of intelligent design is that "Intelligence must be made by an intelligent being" then why does god exist? Who created him? Most atheists, like me, don't believe in god, but if he proves himself to me, I'll go willingly. Also, no Pascal's wager bullshit

The big bang does have many theories, but not one solid explanation. Carbon bonding does have reasons to have a consciousness. When carbon bonded to make a thing that can support itself and reproduce, it became survival of the fittest. We have consciousnesses because it means we are less likely to kill each other.

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Postby UBS » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:57 am

The Burgundy Shore wrote:
UBS wrote:i'm talking about a HOLOCAUST,a DELIBERATE killing.so called gas chambers used REGULAR GLASS,meaning the gassers had to commit suicide to kill anyone.Face it,those camps were set up for a lice outbreak,and people died because hello 1930s and 40s,lice carried many diseases that were not yet cured.


Source your bologna

why,so you can say my sources don't count,so you can say there fake,so you can cling to you propaganda,buzz off,i know the truth,and your holohoax has more holes then cheese

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Postby Liriena » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:57 am

The Kokyuna Clan wrote:
Liriena wrote:Don't flame.


Oh gawd, let's not have people express thier views how they want to!

Fucking, that's my thing brah, without it I'm just another guy who sits around wasting time on the internet.

So far you also seem to be the only person to object to it.

But fine... I'll be more friendly.

Holocaust deniers are not worth getting a warning for flaming over.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:58 am

The Serbia wrote:
Indira wrote:Christian doesn't understand atheism or the reasons behind it. In other news, Pope may be Catholic.

Lets get things straight. Atheists don't follow the Bible because they DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD. What's so fucking hard about that to understand?

Theft, murder, rape? You do know that Christians are just as likely to do that than anyone else, right? Morality is hardly the providence of religion alone. Indeed, the Bible is VERY willing to support murder, rape, slavery, genocide and countless other crimes. And generally I find that atheists are far more moral than Christians like the OP.

You should also be aware that a LOT of atheists are atheists BECAUSE they've read the Bible and found it lacking, contradictory and ridiculous.

So atheism should be banned? Probably one of the most idiotic ideas I've ever seen on NSG and trust me, I've seen a LOT of really dumb ideas.

There is a word called 'hypocrisy'. Christians who commit murder, rape, slavery, genocide and countless other crimes are not truly Christians, but rather hypocrites who hide under the word 'Christian'. Also, the bible was willing to support these, but only in the Old Testament where the 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth' rule is present.

Also, I do agree with you about atheism not being banned. If atheism is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in atheism.

I'd like to add that one doesn't "believe in atheism". Atheism is a lack of belief. Also, anyone who does anything condemnable under the guise of religion is still a member of their faith. They're just a really shitty member of their faith.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:59 am

UBS wrote:
The Burgundy Shore wrote:
Source your bologna

why,so you can say my sources don't count,so you can say there fake,so you can cling to you propaganda,buzz off,i know the truth,and your holohoax has more holes then cheese

The thread is not about the Holocaust.
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Postby Alexzanabbgggggg » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:59 am

UBS wrote:
The Burgundy Shore wrote:
Source your bologna

why,so you can say my sources don't count,so you can say there fake,so you can cling to you propaganda,buzz off,i know the truth,and your holohoax has more holes then cheese


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Postby Skinia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:00 am

The Kokyuna Clan wrote:
Liriena wrote:Don't flame.


Oh gawd, let's not have people express thier views how they want to!

Fucking, that's my thing brah, without it I'm just another guy who sits around wasting time on the internet.

So far you also seem to be the only person to object to it.

But fine... I'll be more friendly.

Unless you want to get warned and possibly banned, I recommend you to not resort to namecalling as that is flaming. This isn't a personal preference or "please tone it down"-thing. There are less moderated forums for discussion, but this isn't one of them, which is good.
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Postby Luepola » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:00 am

UBS wrote:
The Burgundy Shore wrote:
Source your bologna

why,so you can say my sources don't count,so you can say there fake,so you can cling to you propaganda,buzz off,i know the truth,and your holohoax has more holes then cheese


As someone who wants to support your side of the debate that this thread was originally intended to facilitate, you're making it awfully difficult to do so.
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Postby The Burgundy Shore » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:00 am

UBS wrote:
The Burgundy Shore wrote:
Source your bologna

why,so you can say my sources don't count,so you can say there fake,so you can cling to you propaganda,buzz off,i know the truth,and your holohoax has more holes then cheese


No, I would like to further expand my horizons and opinions - you clearly have a different, and radical, opinion, and I'm interested to hear where you build your argument from.

I'll happily source any claims I make.

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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:00 am

UBS wrote:
The Burgundy Shore wrote:
Source your bologna

why,so you can say my sources don't count,so you can say there fake,so you can cling to you propaganda,buzz off,i know the truth,and your holohoax has more holes then cheese

Aside from the many, many faults in your argument, let me just say this: if you're going to assert something as fact without a source, don't expect us to believe it. There are also multitudes of other sources that back us up. Consider you may be wrong here.
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Postby The Kokyuna Clan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:00 am

Liriena wrote:Holocaust deniers are not worth getting a warning for flaming over.


Wait, he's a Holocaust denier?

I don't really give a fuck, but okay, he can live in fantasy land if he wants.

I've also gotten a level one mod thingy for simply posting on a random thread one time and I didn't say anything flame-worthy, so I don't know, moderating is pretty inconsistent on NS.

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Postby New Carloso » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:02 am

UBS wrote:
Alexzanabbgggggg wrote:
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i'm talking about a HOLOCAUST,a DELIBERATE killing.so called gas chambers used REGULAR GLASS,meaning the gassers had to commit suicide to kill anyone.Face it,those camps were set up for a lice outbreak,and people died because hello 1930s and 40s,lice carried many diseases that were not yet cured.

Oh yes. You accidentally broke into the homes and shops of Jews and shot them, you then accidentlly piled them onto train and shipped them off in the opposite direction they thought they were going. You then accidentally forgot to feed them well and then accidentally turned a big wheel that let off a pile of carbon monoxide gas into a shower.

And what about the German non-jews who got lice. Did you accidentally kill them too? Maybe you should have killed Hitler for having syphilis, a much more serious disease.
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Postby Bobpire » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:02 am

UBS wrote:
The Burgundy Shore wrote:
Source your bologna

why,so you can say my sources don't count,so you can say there fake,so you can cling to you propaganda,buzz off,i know the truth,and your holohoax has more holes then cheese

Please educate me on your supposed holes

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:02 am

UBS wrote:
Alexzanabbgggggg wrote:
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i'm talking about a HOLOCAUST,a DELIBERATE killing.so called gas chambers used REGULAR GLASS,meaning the gassers had to commit suicide to kill anyone.Face it,those camps were set up for a lice outbreak,and people died because hello 1930s and 40s,lice carried many diseases that were not yet cured.


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Postby The Kokyuna Clan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:02 am

Welp, the thread is now a Holocaust debate.

Troll OP has won I think.

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Postby Orangeinton » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:03 am

A ban on atheism is just absurd. Why, because if you ban atheism, where would you be able to look to see an example of absurdity?
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Postby Aelex » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:03 am

The Kokyuna Clan wrote:
Sahrani South wrote:Atheists can not prove that god does not exist, there is evidence for god: The universe and life!


Fugging, no.

The Bible just says that God made it and did not allude to how he made it, what came before, or why he is aconsidered a god.

Image


About the Image. Do you know that Epicure lived WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before Christiendom, and that is entire philosophy is based on faith?

Still, I do have to say that you use one of the greatest "hors contexte"'s quote I ever saw... :clap:
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Postby UBS » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:04 am

The Burgundy Shore wrote:
UBS wrote:why,so you can say my sources don't count,so you can say there fake,so you can cling to you propaganda,buzz off,i know the truth,and your holohoax has more holes then cheese


No, I would like to further expand my horizons and opinions - you clearly have a different, and radical, opinion, and I'm interested to hear where you build your argument from.

I'll happily source any claims I make.

you called in bologna,so go away,i'm tired of arguing,you people close your minds,for your eyes are burned by the truth.i will always support nazism,and here is all i have to say on the subject of race and religion,"let me be with my own"

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Postby Lost heros » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:04 am

Orangeinton wrote:A ban on atheism is just absurd. Why, because if you ban atheism, where would you be able to look to see an example of absurdity?

There are much more absurd things than atheism.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:04 am

Orangeinton wrote:A ban on atheism is just absurd. Why, because if you ban atheism, where would you be able to look to see an example of absurdity?

Please, do tell us more. How is atheism an example of absurdity?
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:04 am

Orangeinton wrote:A ban on atheism is just absurd. Why, because if you ban atheism, where would you be able to look to see an example of absurdity?


Don't worry, we'll always have the bible for that.

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Postby Keventle » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:05 am

As a man of Science and God, I find it hard not to believe in a God.Even if we were t avoid all religions and just view the numbers:
The chance of a God existing is higher probability than Big Bang and everything happening up to today.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... cation.uk1
Besides viewing the evidence I would say God works through science for his work. This was all done for free will. Hence why poverty, terrorism etc. happen.
If God fixed everything or made the science simple, then we would lose free will. Then we would relay all of our actions, and live our life without choice.
This can be best seen through 'A Good Man is Hard to Find' through the Grandma.
In conclusion we can not ban Atheism due to free will.
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Postby Elepis » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:05 am

UBS wrote:
The Burgundy Shore wrote:
No, I would like to further expand my horizons and opinions - you clearly have a different, and radical, opinion, and I'm interested to hear where you build your argument from.

I'll happily source any claims I make.

you called in bologna,so go away,i'm tired of arguing,you people close your minds,for your eyes are burned by the truth.i will always support nazism,and here is all i have to say on the subject of race and religion,"let me be with my own"


why were people tortured in the camps, read Alexzana's link. Then say why the were tortured
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Postby All Natural France » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:06 am

A cup of your finest brain bleach fine sir! I feel the need to provide horrible, unethical and terrible arguments to Atheists because they're having the need to die by the Lord of Israel!
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:06 am

Aelex wrote:
The Kokyuna Clan wrote:
Fugging, no.

The Bible just says that God made it and did not allude to how he made it, what came before, or why he is aconsidered a god.

Image


About the Image. Do you know that Epicure lived WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before Christiendom, and that is entire philosophy is based on faith?

Still, I do have to say that you use one of the greatest "hors contexte"'s quote I ever saw... :clap:

How does that disprove what he said, though? He lived before it. Yes. But that's still an argument as to why someone doesn't believe in it.
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