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Postby Republic of Greater America » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:59 pm

Mombombu wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?


For the 17 year-old children.

17 year old? Try 14 year old. Maybe lower.

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Postby Aurora Novus » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:01 pm

Republic of Greater America wrote:
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For the 17 year-old children.

17 year old? Try 14 year old. Maybe lower.


I was masturbating long before 14. Fuck man, I was masturbating as young as 5. I knew my fetish then and I've always had it since.

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Postby Spoder » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:05 pm

I can see the headlines now:

"SCHOOL BOYS ON STRIKE: RELATED TO RECENT PORN REGULATIONS?"
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Postby Sanguinea » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:06 pm

Aurora Novus wrote:
Republic of Greater America wrote:17 year old? Try 14 year old. Maybe lower.


I was masturbating long before 14. Fuck man, I was masturbating as young as 5. I knew my fetish then and I've always had it since.

TMI.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:08 pm

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Aurora Novus wrote:
I was masturbating long before 14. Fuck man, I was masturbating as young as 5. I knew my fetish then and I've always had it since.

TMI.


And yet you had to quote it

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Postby Alizeria » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:08 pm

I'm normally proud to call myself a Tory and a Cameronite, but he's being pretty naive here.

Using credit cards or other personal information as proof of age online is likely to cause more problems than it will solve - and frankly an age restriction of 18 is far too high. It's not the 1950s. 16 is the age of consent, and should therefore be the age of porn viewing.

And I'm sceptical about that to be honest... I am yet to see any compelling or rational reason why sex and sexuality should be censored.
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Postby Aurora Novus » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:11 pm

Sanguinea wrote:
Aurora Novus wrote:
I was masturbating long before 14. Fuck man, I was masturbating as young as 5. I knew my fetish then and I've always had it since.

TMI.


This topc itself violates the idea of "PG-13", so please, people should stop with these posts. I hardly said anything that shocking or detailed.

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Postby Spoder » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:13 pm

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Sanguinea wrote:TMI.


This topc itself violates the idea of "PG-13", so please, people should stop with these posts. I hardly said anything that shocking or detailed.

That depends on who you're asking -

The parents, or the 13 year olds.
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Postby Alizeria » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:17 pm

Spoder wrote:
Aurora Novus wrote:
This topc itself violates the idea of "PG-13", so please, people should stop with these posts. I hardly said anything that shocking or detailed.

That depends on who you're asking -

The parents, or the 13 year olds.


^ This.

Most 13 year olds know a hell of a lot more than their parents are aware of.

Certainly, if I cast my mind back to the age of 13 (and it's a long time ago I must say), I was very much sexually aware and many of my peers were sexually active by that point.

And yet I was terrified of talking about it because, by virtue of the fact that it was censored, I was led to believe that it was somehow 'wrong' or 'evil' which is categorically untrue and a completely irrational position to take.

So... yeah, censoring it is just fucking stupid and is only going to result in another generation of people with anxieties about sexuality for no reason.

If we're going to censor something, let's censor violence.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:20 pm

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Waste of money arguments don't really hold much sway with me. It amounts to "But i don't want to pay for it" unless it's a literal clusterfuck of burning money for some reason.
"Waste of money" = "I don't want it."

Just pointing that out, because if we liberals start agreeing that "Waste of money" is a good argument, then the Right wingers will get confused when we tell them it's a shit argument that they shouldn't use.

It is burning money. This does nothing to prevent people from simply using proxies to bypass the law.

Yes, but then the counter argument to that is to further censorship so that proxies won't work.

I agree with Ostro on this one. Unless it's a legitimate pork barrel spending, "waste of money" should not be used as an argument.
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Postby Spoder » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:22 pm

Alizeria wrote:
Spoder wrote:That depends on who you're asking -

The parents, or the 13 year olds.


^ This.

Most 13 year olds know a hell of a lot more than their parents are aware of.

Certainly, if I cast my mind back to the age of 13 (and it's a long time ago I must say), I was very much sexually aware and many of my peers were sexually active by that point.

And yet I was terrified of talking about it because, by virtue of the fact that it was censored, I was led to believe that it was somehow 'wrong' or 'evil' which is categorically untrue and a completely irrational position to take.

So... yeah, censoring it is just fucking stupid and is only going to result in another generation of people with anxieties about sexuality for no reason.

If we're going to censor something, let's censor violence.

I totally agree.

My "first time" was 5th grade. Most people started in 6th.

Intercourse is totally natural, and very important, yet censored like crazy.

Bloody violence is unnatural, for the most part and totally uncensored.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:24 pm

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Eastern Equestria wrote:All I can say is.......it would suck to be a pubescent teenage boy in Britain right now.

Yes, if you consider porn and sex the only thing that makes pubescence a fun time. I think both sides are too gungho about it, the conservatives are all like"oh noez teh seks is teh wurst!" and the liberals are all like "oh noes wi nid teh babiez wit teh pronz!!", can't there be a happy medium?

Hentai games.

Neither porn or real sex!
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Postby Olthar » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:51 pm

Inputting credit card information on a porn site? That sounds like a good way to lose everything you cherish.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:01 pm

Olthar wrote:Inputting credit card information on a porn site? That sounds like a good way to lose everything you cherish.

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Postby Sanguinea » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:24 pm

Norstal wrote:
Sanguinea wrote:Yes, if you consider porn and sex the only thing that makes pubescence a fun time. I think both sides are too gungho about it, the conservatives are all like"oh noez teh seks is teh wurst!" and the liberals are all like "oh noes wi nid teh babiez wit teh pronz!!", can't there be a happy medium?

Hentai games.

Neither porn or real sex!

I don't have a problem with hentai really, like you said real people aren't actually doing anything in that.
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Postby Orles » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:36 pm

Norstal wrote:
Sanguinea wrote:Yes, if you consider porn and sex the only thing that makes pubescence a fun time. I think both sides are too gungho about it, the conservatives are all like"oh noez teh seks is teh wurst!" and the liberals are all like "oh noes wi nid teh babiez wit teh pronz!!", can't there be a happy medium?

Hentai games.

Neither porn or real sex!

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Postby Person012345 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:45 am

Aurora Novus wrote:
Republic of Greater America wrote:17 year old? Try 14 year old. Maybe lower.


I was masturbating long before 14. Fuck man, I was masturbating as young as 5. I knew my fetish then and I've always had it since.

I call bullshit.

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Postby Divair2 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:46 am

Sanguinea wrote:
Norstal wrote:Hentai games.

Neither porn or real sex!

I don't have a problem with hentai really, like you said real people aren't actually doing anything in that.

I'm having flashbacks to Alaje.

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Postby Sanguinea » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:48 am

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Sanguinea wrote:I don't have a problem with hentai really, like you said real people aren't actually doing anything in that.

I'm having flashbacks to Alaje.

Uh....is that bad? Who's that?
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Postby Divair2 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:49 am

Sanguinea wrote:
Divair2 wrote:I'm having flashbacks to Alaje.

Uh....is that bad? Who's that?

You really don't want to know.

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Postby Sanguinea » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:50 am

Divair2 wrote:
Sanguinea wrote:Uh....is that bad? Who's that?

You really don't want to know.

*shrugs*

What was this person's deal, and what'd I say to give you flashbacks?
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Postby Divair2 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:51 am

Sanguinea wrote:
Divair2 wrote:You really don't want to know.

*shrugs*

What was this person's deal, and what'd I say to give you flashbacks?

He was incredibly anti-sex/porn, but he was completely fine with anything sexual if it was animated or drawn (hentai specifically).

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:52 am

Aurora Novus wrote:
Republic of Greater America wrote:17 year old? Try 14 year old. Maybe lower.


I was masturbating long before 14. Fuck man, I was masturbating as young as 5. I knew my fetish then and I've always had it since.

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Postby Sanguinea » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:53 am

Divair2 wrote:
Sanguinea wrote:*shrugs*

What was this person's deal, and what'd I say to give you flashbacks?

He was incredibly anti-sex/porn, but he was completely fine with anything sexual if it was animated or drawn (hentai specifically).

Lol, that's awkward. I'm a bit prudish, but not totally anti-porn.
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Postby Divair2 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:06 am

Sanguinea wrote:
Divair2 wrote:He was incredibly anti-sex/porn, but he was completely fine with anything sexual if it was animated or drawn (hentai specifically).

Lol, that's awkward. I'm a bit prudish, but not totally anti-porn.

You also don't blame liberals for absolutely everything, so you're not Alaje. Just a bit of a flashback.

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