Civil War in Syria, what do you think?

[Allrule]

The Viet Cong was much nicer to civilians than ARVN, provided that you weren't a nun, priest, or a South Vietnamese gov't functionary.

Yeah, only being tortured and then summarily executed for sympathising with the government in the south is much better.

the one side is a corrupt secular fascist dictatorship while the other side is an islamist grouping of uknown motives supported by corporations

What.

Like I said, this "LOL EVIL US CORPORATIONS R DOING IT 4 MONEY N IMPERIALISM N STUFF!!1" gang comes out of the woodwork every time something like this happens.

[NWOIlluminati]

Uh-huh. Israel isn't going to attack Iran, and most definitely not until after the US election

That statement quoted above demonstrates the lack of understanding in the Israeli position and their preparation for 'Operation Diamond'. Rather it iterates the common Normalcy Bias when understanding the Macro Geopolitical situation.

[Wamitoria]

The Viet Cong was much nicer to civilians than ARVN, provided that you weren't a nun, priest, or a South Vietnamese gov't functionary.

Yeah, only being tortured and then summarily executed for sympathising with the government in the south is much better.

However, Vietnamese people who didn't work for the government or own a business had no serious reason to oppose the Viet Cong. Nearly every woman in the entirety of Afghanistan had a reason to oppose the Taliban.

[Wamitoria]

Uh-huh. Israel isn't going to attack Iran, and most definitely not until after the US election

That statement quoted above demonstrates the lack of understanding in the Israeli position and their preparation for 'Operation Diamond'. Rather it iterates the common Normalcy Bias when understanding the Macro Geopolitical situation.

Operation Diamond is what Majestic-12 lets out to the masses to confuse them. We at the NWO don't actually name our operations after elements or materials. We name them after historical figures or animals.

[Srboslavija]

The alternative to Assad seem super-friendly and I can't imagine what could go wrong by having them in power instead.

[Phing Phong]

The Viet Cong was much nicer to civilians than ARVN, provided that you weren't a nun, priest, or a South Vietnamese gov't functionary.

Yeah, only being tortured and then summarily executed for sympathising with the government in the south is much better.

The ARVN and Americans committed far greater atrocities than the Viet Cong. There's a reason why the Communist insurgency was so widespread in the south, and that was because ordinary people preferred a Communist movement led by the people to an equally undemocratic, corrupt puppet of the United States. As soon as the Americans realised that bombing civilians wasn't in their interests, they fled and the South fell pretty soon after.

I think that the West should continue to sanction Assad's regime, and that an international force led by a non-imperial power such as Brazil should operate a peacekeeping mission. Ideally, the UN wouldn't exist purely to rubber stamp the few instances where Britain, France, the US, Russia and China agree on something. Syria should become a neutral, secular, demilitarised and democratic state with protection of minorities, rather than going straight from corrupt dictatorship to corrupt US proxy.

[Costa Fiero]

I think that the West should continue to sanction Assad's regime, and that an international force led by a non-imperial power such as Brazil should operate a peacekeeping mission.

Why do people insist that anything done by the West is imperialist?

[Gauthier]

I think that the West should continue to sanction Assad's regime, and that an international force led by a non-imperial power such as Brazil should operate a peacekeeping mission.

Why do people insist that anything done by the West is imperialist?

Classic anti-Western slogan.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Why do people insist that anything done by the West is imperialist?

Classic anti-Western slogan.

And even when the Russians do imperialism-style events, they blame the US...

[Allrule]

Why do people insist that anything done by the West is imperialist?

Classic anti-Western slogan.

Pig-dog imperialists who deny that the U$ and the West in general is waging a genocidal war against not only the Syrian people but the entire Third World will be the first against the wall when the global peoples' revolution comes and communism is imposed on the First World.

[Novairia]

My hope is that Assad opens up the chemical weapon cans.. less religious nutters anywhere is good for the world, and the Middle East is full of them. This entire war is about the Sunni Muslims (aka: "The Rebels") VS the Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shiite Islam (aka: "The Tyrants"). On one side we have the Saudi's/USA/EU supporting the Sunni's, while on the other we have Iran/Russia/China supporting the Alawite's.
The world powers are concerned about control of the ports, resources, and "regional stability".. while on the inside all that is happening is one religious group has had enough of another religious group of holding all the power.

So Assad, let that VX gas fly, do us all a favor an knock off each other.


I can hear the shocked silence already .. then it might be followed by perhaps..

[Allrule]

Don't worry guys, the Qatari conspiracy has been exposed:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... 432383.htm

DOHA, (SANA)- A security company in Qatar specialized in manufacturing models has started executive preparations in a move that is aimed at misleading the public opinion about what is going on in Syria.

According to special sources, the company has manufactured models analogous to official buildings and squares in Damascus, Aleppo and Lattakia in al-Zoubareh region near Doha.

The sources quoted eye witnesses as saying that the company started gathering people to make them wear special customs to represent military personnel and photographers as if from the Syrian TV channels and prepared public, private and military cars with fake Syrian registration plates to film fake videos and fabricated photos about the situation in Syria.

You've been duped, Useful Idiots

[Ahlabush]

At first I thought it was very good that the people are fighting for national liberation from a dictator such as Bashar al-Assad.

But now, radical and fundamentalist Islam is taking over the Syrian rebel troops, and the Free Syrian Army. Also, foreign Mujahaddin from Iraq, Chechnia, Jordan, Lebanon, Qatar and Saudi Arabia arrived to Syria to fight, take down Assad and install a Sharia government in Syria (Exactly like what happened in Afghanistan). Another thing that is absoulutly bad, is in the minute Assad will fall (and he will), the Hezbollah (Iran-funded Lebanese Shi'a terrorist organization) will try to get their hands on Syrian nuclear weapons, moved to Syria from Iraq during the first Gulf War.

Hezbollah having nuclear weaponary means, basically, the destruction of Europe and North America. Terrorists will be able to use nuclear weapons in terrorist attacks. Imagine 9/11, only 5000 times harder. Than means millions of Europeans, Americans, Indians, Jews, Christians, Atheists... Well basically everyone who is not a Muslim. After that, there will be a larger escelation, causing the Shi'a Hezbollah to attack Sunni, Sufi and other fragments of Islam with nuclear weapons, attacking all of those who are not Shi'a Muslim. Hezbollah have stated that their goal is to "set the rule of Islam all-across the globe".

Yes, if the Syrian people will decide to walk in the path of Islamic-fundamentalism, that could mean the destruction of Western society, and probably millions of people.

The new Syrian regime to rise, must take a democratic position and oppose terrorist organizations such in the foreign Mujahaddin and Hezbollah.

Thank you.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Hmmm, some articles in one of Australia's less tabloid-y papers seems to suggest the wide concensus from many academics, monitors and experts on the region is that the Assad regime's days are definitly numbered.

"State TV confirmed the deaths of Mr Assad's closest security adviser, Assef Shawkat, who was his brother-in-law and the deputy head of the armed forces; Dawoud Rajha, the Minister for Defence and the regime's most senior Christian figure; and Hassan Turkmani, his crisis management chief.

Other leading figures, including the Interior Minister, Mohammad al-Shaar, and the intelligence chief, Hisham Bekhtyar, were also reportedly injured in the attack.

Mr Shawkat was one of three figures in the regime's crackdown, along with Mr Assad and his brother, Maher, the commander of the Republican Guard and the army's feared fourth division.

''Whether the regime will last another two weeks or two months it is hard to say, but all the trends indicate that it is on its last legs,'' said Rami Khouri, the director of the Issam Fares Institute for Public Policy and International Affairs at the American University of Beirut.

''The defections, the losses in terms of territory, the work of the opposition inside Damascus and the inability of the regime to do anything except use more force and prompt further retaliation from the opposition shows … it is close to collapse.'

Looks like the Syrians might get this done with little to no overt outside help. And Assef Shawkat - he who lives by the bloody anti-democracy crackdown dies by the backlash to the bloody anti-democracy crackdown.

At first I thought it was very good that the people are fighting for national liberation from a dictator such as Bashar al-Assad.

But now, radical and fundamentalist Islam is taking over the Syrian rebel troops, and the Free Syrian Army. Also, foreign Mujahaddin from Iraq, Chechnia, Jordan, Lebanon, Qatar and Saudi Arabia arrived to Syria to fight, take down Assad and install a Sharia government in Syria (Exactly like what happened in Afghanistan). Another thing that is absoulutly bad, is in the minute Assad will fall (and he will), the Hezbollah (Iran-funded Lebanese Shi'a terrorist organization) will try to get their hands on Syrian nuclear weapons, moved to Syria from Iraq during the first Gulf War.

Hezbollah having nuclear weaponary means, basically, the destruction of Europe and North America. Terrorists will be able to use nuclear weapons in terrorist attacks. Imagine 9/11, only 5000 times harder. Than means millions of Europeans, Americans, Indians, Jews, Christians, Atheists... Well basically everyone who is not a Muslim. After that, there will be a larger escelation, causing the Shi'a Hezbollah to attack Sunni, Sufi and other fragments of Islam with nuclear weapons, attacking all of those who are not Shi'a Muslim. Hezbollah have stated that their goal is to "set the rule of Islam all-across the globe".

Yes, if the Syrian people will decide to walk in the path of Islamic-fundamentalism, that could mean the destruction of Western society, and probably millions of people.

The new Syrian regime to rise, must take a democratic position and oppose terrorist organizations such in the foreign Mujahaddin and Hezbollah.

Thank you.

That was... shrill. Shrill and off in the realms of fantasy.

The alternative to Assad seem super-friendly and I can't imagine what could go wrong by having them in power instead.

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The problem with backing "the devil you know" instead of the one you don't in this case is you are locking yourself into him, and we have had plenty of chance to see of late Assad's true colors.

The alternative could quite feasibly be worse. It could also feasibly be better. Pictures and sentiments of "Scary Muslims with Guns!" don't mean much.

[Camelza]

Yeah, only being tortured and then summarily executed for sympathising with the government in the south is much better.



What.

Like I said, this "LOL EVIL US CORPORATIONS R DOING IT 4 MONEY N IMPERIALISM N STUFF!!1" gang comes out of the woodwork every time something like this happens.

yeah I had to go fast and didn't even finish or reviewed my sentence

I wanted to say that neither side has the Syrian people's interest in heart and I support none ...they just want power or to implement their agentas

secondly,do you truly believe foreign politicians care if a middle eastern people is tortured? really? it's all about money

[Malgrave]

I don't like the idea of Saudi Arabia supporting and arming the opposition, could create an extremely uncomfortable situation for certain people in Syria if the regime falls.

[Novairia]

I don't like the idea of Saudi Arabia supporting and arming the opposition, could create an extremely uncomfortable situation for certain people in Syria if the regime falls.

Can you say "Relig-o-cide"? Assad and his compadres at least enforced a secular peace between all the religious groups, now you have the 2 main religious groups blasting away at each other, while all the minor religions in the area (Coptic and Orthadox Christians for example) are scared with many getting out while they still can. Even the peaceful Muslims are getting out of dodge before it all hits the fan.