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Postby The Fortem » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:23 am

i wonder how many pedophiles or necrophiles think they are part of LGBT, and such are counted in this article.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:25 am

The Fortem wrote:i wonder how many pedophiles or necrophiles think they are part of LGBT, and such are counted in this article.

They don't count.
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Postby New Acardia » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:26 am

Bosardia wrote:
New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?

Oh right, cause it's so trendy to choose to belong to a societal group that's actively oppressed in parts of the world, or are treated as second class citizens. Do you honestly believe that people want to belong to a group that is discriminated against? Ask yourself that question and think about it for a moment. Because I can tell you, if I could, I would not have chosen to be gay (LGBTQ). Yet I simply don't have a choice, it was simply how I was born. So, it would be really, really helpful to live a happy and normal life, if people didn't make assumptions like you did with your question.


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Postby Kowani » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:27 am

The Fortem wrote:i wonder how many pedophiles or necrophiles think they are part of LGBT, and such are counted in this article.

The poll says none
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Postby Zul-ar » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:27 am

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Bosardia wrote:Oh right, cause it's so trendy to choose to belong to a societal group that's actively oppressed in parts of the world, or are treated as second class citizens. Do you honestly believe that people want to belong to a group that is discriminated against? Ask yourself that question and think about it for a moment. Because I can tell you, if I could, I would not have chosen to be gay (LGBTQ). Yet I simply don't have a choice, it was simply how I was born. So, it would be really, really helpful to live a happy and normal life, if people didn't make assumptions like you did with your question.


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They are the minority by far.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:33 am

New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?

How progressive of you. You're right, you're right. I only chose to be asexual and aromantic because I wanted to fucking hate myself, because I wanted to feel like what I am is "wrong", because it was drilled into me that I'm supposed to have kids and have a wife and have a family and be the man of the family and have sex and be a player and be the charmer and be the woman's man and be the man's man and be what EVERYONE FUCKING WANTED ME TO BE BUT I'M NOT. You have zero idea what being LGBT is. It is not a choice. It is not a "fad". It is not "drilled into people's heads". You're clearly misinformed and I hope you change. This is a disgusting, but more importantly insulting take.
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Postby Caribbean Confederation » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:53 am

New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?

Literally no human person capable of choosing things ever chooses to "become" transgender and deal with the very real issues that society has with it. Ditto literally every other "word" in the ever-expanding word soup that is the queer community. "Parents making there children gay" only happens in Tumblr.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:55 am

New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?


Your implying is a choice which its not.

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Postby Iwassoclose » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:56 am

The Fortem wrote:i wonder how many pedophiles or necrophiles think they are part of LGBT, and such are counted in this article.


Straight from the pastors mouth :lol:

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:58 am

New Acardia wrote:
Bosardia wrote:Oh right, cause it's so trendy to choose to belong to a societal group that's actively oppressed in parts of the world, or are treated as second class citizens. Do you honestly believe that people want to belong to a group that is discriminated against? Ask yourself that question and think about it for a moment. Because I can tell you, if I could, I would not have chosen to be gay (LGBTQ). Yet I simply don't have a choice, it was simply how I was born. So, it would be really, really helpful to live a happy and normal life, if people didn't make assumptions like you did with your question.


In certain groups (Wealthy white upper class liberals . Who view it as a status symbol to have a
LGBT child)


Meanwhile, in reality...
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Postby Loeje » Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:13 pm

New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?

I doubt any of them are. That would imply that people choose to be something they're not to be cool, which definitely happens, but it wouldn't in this case because it's still not seen as a good thing by a lot of people. There are still people who don't accept it at all. No one would choose to deal with that to be cool.
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Postby Kilobugya » Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:20 pm

New Acardia wrote:In certain groups (Wealthy white upper class liberals . Who view it as a status symbol to have a LGBT child)


Yeah, sure, so many parents want they children to be bullied, assaulted, to have politicians wanting to deny them their right, and to have people all around the media saying they deserve to be tortured for eternity in hell, just because it's "cool". Sorry, but no, that's not what happens. Even "liberals" are often worried to have LGBT children, not because they have anything against LGBT people, but because they are worried their children suffering because of it.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:35 pm

New Acardia wrote:
New Acardia wrote:How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?
The New California Republic wrote:How many LGBT theses? This isn't a gender studies course...


Just trying to be as objective as possible

I don't think you understood.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:43 pm

New Acardia wrote:
Bosardia wrote:Oh right, cause it's so trendy to choose to belong to a societal group that's actively oppressed in parts of the world, or are treated as second class citizens. Do you honestly believe that people want to belong to a group that is discriminated against? Ask yourself that question and think about it for a moment. Because I can tell you, if I could, I would not have chosen to be gay (LGBTQ). Yet I simply don't have a choice, it was simply how I was born. So, it would be really, really helpful to live a happy and normal life, if people didn't make assumptions like you did with your question.


In certain groups (Wealthy white upper class liberals . Who view it as a status symbol to have a
LGBT child)

I'm sure you can provide evidence that that is a thing that happens. Totally, absolutely 100% sure.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:45 pm

New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?


Why don't you start by establishing with actual objective evidence that this is a thing that happens.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:49 pm

New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?

I'd say zero because "trenders" aren't a thing. Queer people, trans people, gay people, etc have always existed even if they didn't have the identities and words we use now.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:53 pm

New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?


It's nigh on impossible to dertermine. But it depends if you view LGBT being as an essentialist trait or not. I tend to assume most did answer the poll sincerely.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:01 pm

Nakena wrote:
New Acardia wrote:I am going to ask a un popular question
How many of theses LGBT are only LGBT because it is now the cool thing to say or had goofy adults pound it (figuratively) in to there head that are LGBT ?


It's neigh on impossible to dertermine. [...]

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Postby Personal Freedom » Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:14 pm

I think it's logical that when society doesn't stigmatize them as much more people will come out.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:19 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Nakena wrote:
It's neigh on impossible to dertermine. [...]

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:00 pm



In my experiance with the autistic community it certainly sounds plausible. IMO the real question is whether it's the autism which 'causes' the higher likelyhood of being LGBT or if it's because autistic groups (especially online ones in the past 5 years) are more linked to intersectional activism and thus are more likely to have names to attach to parts of their identity and having a support network to freely talk about it.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:01 pm

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In my experiance with the autistic community it certainly sounds plausible. IMO the real question is whether autistic people actually have a higher chance of being LGBT or if it's because autistic groups (especially online ones in the past 5 years) are more linked to intersectional activism and thus are more likely to have names to attach to parts of their identity and having a support network to freely talk about it.

I think it could easily be both.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:42 pm

Atheris wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:
In my experiance with the autistic community it certainly sounds plausible. IMO the real question is whether autistic people actually have a higher chance of being LGBT or if it's because autistic groups (especially online ones in the past 5 years) are more linked to intersectional activism and thus are more likely to have names to attach to parts of their identity and having a support network to freely talk about it.

I think it could easily be both.


Yes. If I were to play at being a psychiatrist, I'd say that the 'otherness' which autistics feel when confronted with neurotypical society makes it easier to question social norms which can include gender expectations. Even as a straight cis autistic I find some of the culture around gender to be alien. autistic masking needs an app
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Postby New Astri » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:23 pm

SD_Film Artists wrote:
Atheris wrote:I think it could easily be both.


Yes. If I were to play at being a psychiatrist, I'd say that the 'otherness' which autistics feel when confronted with neurotypical society makes it easier to question social norms which can include gender expectations. Even as a straight cis autistic I find some of the culture around gender to be alien. autistic masking needs an app



^ Even cishet autistic people are more likely to be gender non-conforming because of this
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Postby Prydania » Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:14 am

New Acardia wrote:
Bosardia wrote:Oh right, cause it's so trendy to choose to belong to a societal group that's actively oppressed in parts of the world, or are treated as second class citizens. Do you honestly believe that people want to belong to a group that is discriminated against? Ask yourself that question and think about it for a moment. Because I can tell you, if I could, I would not have chosen to be gay (LGBTQ). Yet I simply don't have a choice, it was simply how I was born. So, it would be really, really helpful to live a happy and normal life, if people didn't make assumptions like you did with your question.


In certain groups (Wealthy white upper class liberals . Who view it as a status symbol to have a
LGBT child)

Wow. So nothing you said has any basis in reality.

The Fortem wrote:i wonder how many pedophiles or necrophiles think they are part of LGBT, and such are counted in this article.

None.

I wonder what haven for internet reactionaries you crawled out from to arrive here and be counted in this thread?
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