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Postby Tsaraine » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:26 am

I, too, think that there should be an expiration date or mandatory age of retirement for Supreme Court justices. However, this seems tangential at best to today's rulings.

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we already are!

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Postby Torisakia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:28 am


"From a moral standpoint, 6/26 is now our 9/11"

wut.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:28 am

Torisakia wrote:

"From a moral standpoint, 6/25 is now our 9/11"

wut.

What a sad and petty fucking comment, that man is an ass.
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Postby Frasers » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:29 am

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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:30 am

Torisakia wrote:

"From a moral standpoint, 6/26 is now our 9/11"

wut.


Well, that was also the same day they struck down part of DOMA...
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:30 am

Free Tristania wrote:
Norstal wrote:Someone hasn't taken statistics before. Or else you'd probably know what "statistically significant" means.

Statistics are only as dependable as the data fed into it.You have lies, damned lies and statistics. Hence: if you really want something to be accepted you need to ask the people in a referendum ? Or are you afraid you might actually lose it ? If your cause is good.. why be afraid of asking the people ?

Referendums can be influenced by bias, political maneuvering, voting disenfranchisement, etc.

Omg who would've thought: no system is perfect! Besides, at least polls are politically powerless, so I don't really understand what the hell you're arguing.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:30 am

Crezilivion wrote:It looks like it's time for new judges.

Well, sure at least four of them are behind the times a bit, but someone should be there to make the counter argument.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:30 am


"June 26, 2015: I saw Satan dancing with delight"
Now we begin our secret plan, as was foretold in the ancient edicts of the Masonic Lodges of America to destroy Jesus Christ and usher in the age of our infernal Lord Satan.

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Postby Norstal » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:31 am

Torisakia wrote:

"From a moral standpoint, 6/26 is now our 9/11"

wut.

6/24 = .23~
9/11 = .82~

That guy can't even math.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:31 am

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:

"June 26, 2015: I saw Satan dancing with delight"
Now we begin our secret plan, as was foretold in the ancient edicts of the Masonic Lodges of America to destroy Jesus Christ and usher in the age of our infernal Lord Satan.


It's a pretty awesome dance too, anyone else enjoying it so far?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:32 am

Norstal wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:Statistics are only as dependable as the data fed into it.You have lies, damned lies and statistics. Hence: if you really want something to be accepted you need to ask the people in a referendum ? Or are you afraid you might actually lose it ? If your cause is good.. why be afraid of asking the people ?

Referendums can be influenced by bias, political maneuvering, voting disenfranchisement, etc.

Omg who would've thought: no system is perfect! Besides, at least polls are politically powerless, so I don't really understand what the hell you're arguing.

That this thing, polling, goes against his unfounded supposition so they must be inherently lacking in value because otherwise he'd have to face the fact that there is evidence counter to this thing he pulled out of his ass 20 pages ago.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:33 am

Norstal wrote:
Torisakia wrote:"From a moral standpoint, 6/26 is now our 9/11"

wut.

6/24 = .23~
9/11 = .82~

That guy can't even math.

You have to do the 6 three times because it's the mark of the best, and .23 x 3 is .69 so the Stanic influence of homosexual intercourse is confirmed.

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Postby Torisakia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:33 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Torisakia wrote:"From a moral standpoint, 6/25 is now our 9/11"

wut.

What a sad and petty fucking comment, that man is an ass.

It just keeps coming on here in Alabama...
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Postby Formicashig » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:33 am

My gut reaction is to celebrate, because of course I think that discriminating on the grounds of sexual orientation is abhorrent, and a human rights abuse.

However, I actually share the concerns of John Roberts and Antonin Scalia in that while this is a positive thing for gay people, it does represent yet another example in which the Supreme Court are perverting the course of American democracy through judicial review, and whilst I am aware that this is exactly what it was supposed to do, it does leave the door open to unintended negative consequences on other issues.

Basically, this is a great day for human rights, but a terrible day for democracy and political freedom, and as such I feel very bittersweet about this.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:34 am

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:

"June 26, 2015: I saw Satan dancing with delight"
Now we begin our secret plan, as was foretold in the ancient edicts of the Masonic Lodges of America to destroy Jesus Christ and usher in the age of our infernal Lord Satan.

Hey, I thought marriage equality was supposed to bring about a thousand years of darkness under the rule of Cthulhu!

What a bitter disappointment. :(
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Postby Lordareon » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:34 am

Well i have not care up till now but its dissension is realty bugging me i am a protestant and i belive in the word of the good book and i think that it infringes on my religious believes i am not saying that homosexuals are bad people or are the anti crist i am sure that most homosexuals are nice people i just think that if they want to get marred they could make there own church to do it in and not come into the church i go to and demand of the pastor do something that we consider to be a unholy crime.

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Postby Blekksprutia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:35 am

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Sin as the core generality is a fundamental part. Not the specifics; they are a derivative.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:35 am

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:
Norstal wrote:6/24 = .23~
9/11 = .82~

That guy can't even math.

You have to do the 6 three times because it's the mark of the best, and .23 x 3 is .69 so the Stanic influence of homosexual intercourse is confirmed.

Fools, this is the work of the Omnissiah, not Satan!
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Postby Liriena » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:35 am

Lordareon wrote:Well i have not care up till now but its dissension is realty bugging me i am a protestant and i belive in the word of the good book and i think that it infringes on my religious believes i am not saying that homosexuals are bad people or are the anti crist i am sure that most homosexuals are nice people i just think that if they want to get marred they could make there own church to do it in and not come into the church i go to and demand of the pastor do something that we consider to be a unholy crime.

The SCOTUS ruling has nothing to do with what you just described. At all.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:36 am

Lordareon wrote:Well i have not care up till now but its dissension is realty bugging me i am a protestant and i belive in the word of the good book and i think that it infringes on my religious believes i am not saying that homosexuals are bad people or are the anti crist i am sure that most homosexuals are nice people i just think that if they want to get marred they could make there own church to do it in and not come into the church i go to and demand of the pastor do something that we consider to be a unholy crime.

This court decision does not force gay marriage. It merely allows it.
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Postby Blekksprutia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:36 am

Lordareon wrote:Well i have not care up till now but its dissension is realty bugging me i am a protestant and i belive in the word of the good book and i think that it infringes on my religious believes i am not saying that homosexuals are bad people or are the anti crist i am sure that most homosexuals are nice people i just think that if they want to get marred they could make there own church to do it in and not come into the church i go to and demand of the pastor do something that we consider to be a unholy crime.

It would make your opinion a lot more credible if you were to try out the nifty shift key, or perhaps a comma. Even so, this does not make same sex marriage compulsory. Feel free to do what you wish and leave the rest of America to do what they wish. Don't try to control other peoples' life choices. That will make us all happier people.
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:36 am

Norstal wrote:Referendums can be influenced by bias, political maneuvering, voting disenfranchisement, etc.

Omg who would've thought: no system is perfect! Besides, at least polls are politically powerless, so I don't really understand what the hell you're arguing.


You seem to be arguing democracy is imperfect, so not having any democracy is a much better idea.
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